Venting Suicide prevention is something that only causes harm.

[FuneralCry]

I hate anything related to suicide prevention, I just hate the idea that suicide must be prevented rather than it being respected as a personal choice. Suicide prevention is just cruelty that leads to more harm, it's prolonging people's suffering, if people don't respect the right to die then they completely lack any compassion.

Suicide should be accepted as the valid option that it truly is, and it's inhumane how other people purposely try and make suicide as difficult as possible, none of us are obligated to exist here and the reality is that not everyone even wants to.

We are all going to die anyway so I think that wanting to take control over the inevitable is perfectly logical, for me death certainly is the only relief and humans deserve the option of escaping from all the suffering in peace.

Just the whole idea of suicide prevention is so wrong to me, I think that people who believe in this rather than the right to die are people who are incapable of minding their own business and wish to interfere in other people's plan to die as it makes them feel better about themselves, just the words suicide prevention disgust me, just the fact that so many see suicide as being something that must be prevented shows what a hellish world we exist in.

 

[TAW122]

I agree, I used to be oblivious to the phrase "suicide prevention" in the past, prior to knowing about the right to die, but ever since I've learned about the right to die, particularly from a college topic about ethics and euthanasia for the terminally ill, I've awaken to the right to die and evermore advocate for this very important (perhaps the most important) human right as it's the ultimate expression of free will. Furthermore, I too, become disgusted (more so in the recent years) whenever I see posters or anything that has the reference of suicide prevention on it. It's presumptuous and disgusting that it is plastered everywhere where 'mental health' or the topic of death or dying is involved.

 

[Nervosomnifer]

I agree, I used to be oblivious to the phrase "suicide prevention" in the past, prior to knowing about the right to die, but ever since I've learned about the right to die, particularly from a college topic about ethics and euthanasia for the terminally ill, I've awaken to the right to die and evermore advocate for this very important (perhaps the most important) human right as it's the ultimate expression of free will. Furthermore, I too, become disgusted (more so in the recent years) whenever I see posters or anything that has the reference of suicide prevention on it. It's presumptuous and disgusting that it is plastered everywhere where 'mental health' or the topic of death or dying is involved.

Suicide prevention is a selfish dogma that is one of the keys to power of a state. How can it possibly sustain itself, its very foundations if members its population just don't want to live. No people - no taxes, no army, no workforce, no more power to project onto others.

So it's only natural that this outlook on death as something antagonistic, horrible is only being reinforced..and will always be enforced, because it is essential to the state..and it always strives for control and always tends to manipulate the public mind

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Yes I agree. Suicide prevention causes not only harm it causes additional suffering to people who want to leave this world for their own personal reasons. In addition to that suicide prevention also makes peaceful methods inaccessib which causes even more pain especially when attempts fail.

 

[liljeep]

I guess it depends what kind of sui prevention. Involuntary psych ward commitment, I disagree with. Involuntary admission to the ER via ambulance, I would have to think about. But I think sui hotlines should exist, though I wish they didn't do rescue attempts unless the person consented prior (some really would). But you can't have both, a group that seeks to prevent suicide and who won't intervene if an attempt has taken place.

I think a lot of people genuinely do need someone to talk to and want to be told "it gets better", and don't actually want to CTB. And it's difficult to confide in peers or family, when those people would definitely not consider calling an ambulance on them a last resort.

 

[suicidalloser]

I hate anything related to suicide prevention, I just hate the idea that suicide must be prevented rather than it being respected as a personal choice. Suicide prevention is just cruelty that leads to more harm, it's prolonging people's suffering, if people don't respect the right to die then they completely lack any compassion.

Suicide should be accepted as the valid option that it truly is, and it's inhumane how other people purposely try and make suicide as difficult as possible, none of us are obligated to exist here and the reality is that not everyone even wants to.

We are all going to die anyway so I think that wanting to take control over the inevitable is perfectly logical, for me death certainly is the only relief and humans deserve the option of escaping from all the suffering in peace.

Just the whole idea of suicide prevention is so wrong to me, I think that people who believe in this rather than the right to die are people who are incapable of minding their own business and wish to interfere in other people's plan to die as it makes them feel better about themselves, just the words suicide prevention disgust me, just the fact that so many see suicide as being something that must be prevented shows what a hellish world we exist in.

yes, and sucks so many optimist pro lifer roam the place.

Yes I agree. Suicide prevention causes not only harm it causes additional suffering to people who want to leave this world for their own personal reasons. In addition to that suicide prevention also makes peaceful methods inaccessib which causes even more pain especially when attempts fail.

not to mention being treated horribly during immense sadness

 

[Grimpoteuthis]

I guess it depends what kind of sui prevention. Involuntary psych ward commitment, I disagree with. Involuntary admission to the ER via ambulance, I would have to think about. But I think sui hotlines should exist, though I wish they didn't do rescue attempts unless the person consented prior (some really would). But you can't have both, a group that seeks to prevent suicide and who won't intervene if an attempt has taken place.

I think a lot of people genuinely do need someone to talk to and want to be told "it gets better", and don't actually want to CTB. And it's difficult to confide in peers or family, when those people would definitely not consider calling an ambulance on them a last resort.

I agree. Some people only suffer from temporary suicidal ideation and could not imagine death as a relief. There are many cases people feel intense fear when they realized that they are actively considering suicide and I see nothing wrong with encouraging them to improve their mindset.

Suicidal ideation differs from person to person and I think we should acknowledge that some people actually want to get better. Suicide prevention service is a complete joke to those who are chronically suicidal, but a good resource to those who have never desired to die and seek help voluntarily.

 

[Arihman]

And when it's coercive, it arguably causes more suffering to family and friends as well. Because when you are not allowed to talk to them out of fear of being detained, you'll either end up living in misery (though I admit people can get better), or you'll do it in secret, only for loved ones to suddenly find your body, or hear news of your death, which arguably adds to the suffering of loss.

Whereas if we could at least gain the right to die after a waiting period, we would be able to talk about suicidal ideation with our families and friends (if we have them in the first place) in advance, thus giving them more time to prepare for the separation, and not having them find a dead body.

And whose fault is all this?