Venting Suicide isn’t “selfish”

[FuneralCry]

I find it really disgusting how people label suicide as being "selfish" when in reality it's a very valid personal choice, what is so selfish is so harmfully deciding to procreate and insisting that people must continue to suffer no matter what even know literally nobody consented to this in the first place. I despise how humans procreate even know existing is nothing but meaningless suffering and call those "selfish" who want to be free from this existence that was so cruelly imposed, in my case I never would have chose to exist.

No matter what suicide should always be accepted as a personal decision, if someone wants to choose when they die it's not about other people, if people are so anti-death then why do they bring life here in the first place, we are all going to die anyway and nobody should be forced to suffer for even a second longer than they wish to. I cannot stand pro-life people who guilt trip those who want to die and insult them, they are the selfish ones, interfering with the personal decision to die will always be so incredibly selfish.

 

[iloverachel]

Agreed 100 percent.
Many people don't realize suicidal people are mostly very caring and empathetic. It is a common misconception that suicidal people don't care about loved ones when the reality is they care a lot but the pain is just too great.

Suicidal people should not be guilt tripped by being called selfish. As you said it is there decision completely.

I also agree those who force others to suffer for decades by banning euthanasia are the true selfish ones

 

[karmaisabitch]

I don't think people looking at suicide as "selfish@ or at least I never heard it in my state.. in fact people normally feels guilty when their loved ones die by suicide..

Agreed 100 percent.
Many people don't realize suicidal people are mostly very caring and empathetic. It is a common misconception that suicidal people don't care about loved ones when the reality is they care a lot but the pain is just too great.

Suicidal people should not be guilt tripped by being called selfish. As you said it is there decision completely.

I also agree those who force others to suffer for decades by banning euthanasia are the true selfish ones

I agree with you!

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Suicide isn't selfish at all. It's self care. What can be wrong if we want to prevent ourselves form further suffering in unbearable life situations and especially when there is no solution after many years of fighting. There's nothing to lose anyway - we can't take anything with us to the other side.

 

[karmaisabitch]

Suicide isn't selfish at all. It's self care. What can be wrong if we want to prevent ourselves form further suffering in unbearable life situations and especially when there is no solution after many years of fighting. There's nothing to lose anyway - we can't take anything with us to the other side.

Totally agree with you! And you're right, we can't take anything with us! Only our body and our actions. It makes me wonder about stupid people who are saving and not helping others as if they are living forever

 

[Naetoh]

Absolutely. The real selfishness is forcing us to live in misery just so they don't feel uncomfortable.

 

[Fantasy22]

I don't think it's selfish. I think others expecting you to live and do what they want to can be seen as selfish. Like it's my life I want to do what I want. If I can choose my own job, my own car, my own everything why can't I choose my method of death. Why can't I choose for it to be soon. Why must I skirt around the issue and just love and suffer bc others look down on suicide. To me when I hear about suicide on the new or stories I don't think oh my god they're so selfish. I think the same things I seen ppl here say. Hope they didn't suffer, hope theyre at peace now, at least they're gone in a way they wanted. It gives ppl some control over their lives when you really can't control much else

 

[Lady Laudanum]

Suicide isn't selfish but expecting the entire forum to bend over backwards for you is selfish.

 

[idreamofwires]

It's not selfish. I didn't ask to be born and I should have free reign to decide what to do with my life.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Well it kind of is. Especially if you have people who are explicitly dependent on you. But so is demanding someone stay alive for them just so they avoid pain (seriously, what's the point of that if you know that's their only reason?)

But that's way the world works. Competing interests at every turn and desires that will not always coincide.

 

[Havnis]

Babies are selfish than any adult. But do we blame them?

 

[Chinaski]

Suicide is fucking great and literally everyone should do it (except for me, I'm too scared)

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I agree. Suicide isn't selfish because we never consented into existence to begin with. We should have the right to choose when we die. What's the point in forcing us to live when we don't want to?

 

[turbomightbegone]

Unless you're killing yourself for malicious intent against others then it isn't selfish. At the end of the day it's their own life, their own choice.

 

[redeeming_butterfly]

A few thoughts on selfishness…

Every human birth happens out of selfishness. Whatever the exact reason for the birth was. The origin of it is always selfishness.
Because, however good the circumstances may be. There is no guarantee that we will give birth to a person who can lead a healthy, happy life.
So with every birth, we take the risk of creating suffering. Every single birth involves risk.
If we were selfless, we would not take any risk, no matter how minimal it may seem.
If we were selfless, we would not continue to populate this planet.
But humans are selfish. They want to reproduce because it is beautiful/interesting to see life grow or because they want to take care of someone, give someone a life or because they want someone to take care of them in old age or to work and help them survive, or because of sex without contraception, etc etc…
If we were selfless, we would not create life, because we do not know what will happen.

Suicide that avoids a person suffering for a lifetime cannot be selfishness. It destroys the ego.
It is absurd to think that the unhappy person has to live just to avoid having a short-term emotional impact on the happy person. All grief passes. And if one is wise and recognises that the sufferer has only liberated himself, then grief should not really exist at all.

I think the most important and probably most difficult thing is that the bereaved know and understand or at least respect and accept the reasons and that the suicide was long and well thought out. You have to prevent feelings of guilt as much as possible where it seems necessary. That is your duty. If you don't, it would probably be selfishness.

 

[divinemistress36]

A few thoughts on selfishness…

Every human birth happens out of selfishness. Whatever the exact reason for the birth was. The origin of it is always selfishness.
Because, however good the circumstances may be. There is no guarantee that we will give birth to a person who can lead a healthy, happy life.
So with every birth, we take the risk of creating suffering. Every single birth involves risk.
If we were selfless, we would not take any risk, no matter how minimal it may seem.
If we were selfless, we would not continue to populate this planet.
But humans are selfish. They want to reproduce because it is beautiful/interesting to see life grow or because they want to take care of someone, give someone a life or because they want someone to take care of them in old age or to work and help them survive, or because of sex without contraception, etc etc…
If we were selfless, we would not create life, because we do not know what will happen.

Suicide that avoids a person suffering for a lifetime cannot be selfishness. It destroys the ego.
It is absurd to think that the unhappy person has to live just to avoid having a short-term emotional impact on the happy person. All grief passes. And if one is wise and recognises that the sufferer has only liberated himself, then grief should not really exist at all.

I think the most important and probably most difficult thing is that the bereaved know and understand or at least respect and accept the reasons and that the suicide was long and well thought out. You have to prevent feelings of guilt as much as possible where it seems necessary. That is your duty. If you don't, it would probably be selfishness.

This is one of the most profound messages I have read in awhile

 

[stupidhuman]

I feel like it's both at the same time and it's more about the person who's doing it because CTB is very individual.
It's hard to explain why exactly but that's what my guts tell me.
In the end it doesn't really matter for me personally if it is or not.
It's my decision to do or not to.
Philosophical debates are pretty useless and lead to nothing most of the times I feel like. It must be some kind of copying I guess.
That doesn't mean I devalue everything you're saying and feeling !
It's just my petty own little opinion….