Venting Suicide is getting more and more difficult.

[SilentSadness]

As much as I want to believe that the more time that passes the closer I get to death, I've sadly noticed that we are moving further and further away from a world where it is accessible. N is of course not available anymore and I wouldn't be surprised if SN was just as unavailable within a few years. As pro-life individuals keep pumping money into rights prevention, even the more traditional methods are slowly and systematically being made harder. Eventually, with so many increases to life expectancy, I fear having to reach old age and continue to suffer for unbearable amounts of time. It's so horrendous having to suffer on a daily basis, not to mention a large proportion of people would be very happy to have others imprisoned in a mental hospital for so much as mentioning suicidal thoughts which means you are all alone. As there cannot be suffering in death by definition, there is always something positive about it and the way that people remove access to methods just shows me that they are more interested in being seen as heroes than doing anything good. However, their hero complexes will all come to an end as they too suffer one of the countless tragedies this life has to offer. Surveillance is also on the rise and, as technology advances, there is simply no end to how far people can go to force us to stay alive. Sarco seems like a distant fantasy and I don't think I'll ever be able to use it.

 

[bigdog]

As much as I want to believe that the more time that passes the closer I get to death, I've sadly noticed that we are moving further and further away from a world where it is accessible. N is of course not available anymore and I wouldn't be surprised if SN was just as unavailable within a few years. As pro-life individuals keep pumping money into rights prevention, even the more traditional methods are slowly and systematically being made harder. Eventually, with so many increases to life expectancy, I fear having to reach old age and continue to suffer for unbearable amounts of time. It's so horrendous having to suffer on a daily basis, not to mention a large proportion of people would be very happy to have others imprisoned in a mental hospital for so much as mentioning suicidal thoughts which means you are all alone. As there cannot be suffering in death by definition, there is always something positive about it and the way that people remove access to methods just shows me that they are more interested in being seen as heroes than doing anything good. However, their hero complexes will all come to an end as they too suffer one of the countless tragedies this life has to offer. Surveillance is also on the rise and, as technology advances, there is simply no end to how far people can go to force us to stay alive. Sarco seems like a distant fantasy and I don't think I'll ever be able to use it.

Thing is that SN method is not bulletproof. I have read many topics on this forum and realized that many things can go wrong. And one more thing the assumption that if you survive an attempt there would be no consequences is wrong in my opinion.

 

[Scacie]

N is of course not available anymore and I wouldn't be surprised if SN was just as unavailable within a few years.

sigh, for sure. My shithole of a country technically bans SN imports above 5%, so pray to whatever higher powers(if any) that mine arrives safely. God, I don't know what to do if it gets seized. I suppose I'd try again and again and burn through my money to hopefully finally gets it. But I really dont know what to do if it dosen't. I really don't want to CTB by jumping, but if they leave me no choice, I guess I must.

Thing is that SN method is not bulletproof. I have read many topics on this forum and realized that many things can go wrong. And one more thing the assumption that if you survive an attempt there would be no consequences is wrong in my opinion.

Yea, that sucks. But I'm doing everything in my power to make sure my SN soon will succeed. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this but it really sucks that I only found this site so late. If I found it years earlier, maybe I would have an easier time CTB with less regulation, and gone through less needless suffering.

 

[chocolatebar]

As pro-life individuals keep pumping money into rights prevention, even the more traditional methods are slowly and systematically being made harder

They spend a lot of money in preventing access to methods, but don't move a finger into trying to make our lining conditions better. Typical prolife behavior.

 

[FuneralCry]

I certainly believe that instead of suicide becoming less stigmatised, suicide certainly is getting more impossible. I could never imagine this society changing to the point so that our right to die is finally accepted, as after all I believe that most would choose the peace that death brings over becoming a slave to this society, and the society needs to keep people here for that reason.

It certainly does disgust me how pro lifers wish to force people to stay here against their wishes, this just proves that this hellish world certainly is so prison like, I view it as being a punishment how we cannot leave without extreme difficulty. I also fear being trapped here for an extended amount of time, as existing is something so unappealing and harmful and the thought of old age is so horrific to me. The reality is that no matter what people say suicide could never be worse than suffering and there is no peace from suffering in this world.

 

[LookAway]

Thing is that SN method is not bulletproof. I have read many topics on this forum and realized that many things can go wrong. And one more thing the assumption that if you survive an attempt there would be no consequences is wrong in my opinion.

Thanks for sharing. Do you have any sort of articles or evidence showing the consequences of surviving an attempt?

 

[bigdog]

Thanks for sharing. Do you have any sort of articles or evidence showing the consequences of surviving an attempt?

For example a person gets blind how can he go back on forum or would he even want to do it

 

[Homo erectus]

Infant mortality was high just not long ago. Those who survived into adulthood probably were proved to be sociable and fit for life. Even when they suffered pain, people had access to opium and cannabis. Modern medicine keeps many unsuitable people alive But they are not allowed to die even if they volunteer. They have no easy access to opium, cannabis, psychedelics to relief their pain. This is very a cruel world. Literally people are trapped in this material world to suffer. The pain of suicide is the minimum punishment for escape.

 

[GasMonkey]

Modern medicine keeps many unsuitable people alive

And they pass their unsuitable genes to the next generation. :-(

 

[Blue_mist]

Now we are in a situation where we have to resort to the old brutal classic methods such as jumping, hanging, guns, trains etc.
I personally still have hope for N by travelling to South America but i need to do my research first, if not possible, CO and drunk hypothermia seem good options for me. Best of luck to you all.

 

[stoopid]

I'm relatively sure that people in the future will find ways to do it. Illegal firearms will spike again in Europe soon and they will probably take that route if nothing else is available.

Thing is that SN method is not bulletproof. I have read many topics on this forum and realized that many things can go wrong. And one more thing the assumption that if you survive an attempt there would be no consequences is wrong in my opinion.

What is not bulletproof? If you take enough and a antiemtics what should go wrong? It's not the SN fault that people sometimes can't weight out stuff correctly. It's only going wrong with using not the correct amounts or being found, that's the same with N, but N is so hard to obtain and often faked or sold fakes to sucidical people because they're in desperate for that. If your not living in the west, SN is ultra cheap and easy to obtain, I literally got a bottle for <4 Euro 500g ultra pure from a reputable seller in Eastern Europe, but even if your from the west, it takes a bit longer, I used Google like everyone and found the source in a few searches. Please don't discourage people with these anti SN rumors.

 

[bigdog]

I'm relatively sure that people in the future will find ways to do it. Illegal firearms will spike again in Europe soon and they will probably take that route if nothing else is available.





What is not bulletproof? If you take enough and a antiemtics what should go wrong? It's not the SN fault that people sometimes can't weight out stuff correctly. It's only going wrong with using not the correct amounts or being found, that's the same with N, but N is so hard to obtain and often faked or sold fakes to sucidical people because they're in desperate for that. If your not living in the west, SN is ultra cheap and easy to obtain, I literally got a bottle for <4 Euro 500g ultra pure from a reputable seller in Eastern Europe, but even if your from the west, it takes a bit longer, I used Google like everyone and found the source in a few searches. Please don't discourage people with these anti SN rumors.

I already have it. Does SN has a shelf life?

 

[Blackroom_57]

Suicide is easy. You just have to want it bad enough. People of antiquity had none of these methods or guides but many of them still succeeded.

 

[SilentSadness]

Suicide is easy. You just have to want it bad enough. People of antiquity had none of these methods or guides but many of them still succeeded.

You're wrong, I want death more than anything but I'm still unable to die. People in the past lived in more brutal times and were okay with the immense pain of ctb attempts. Also, while many may have succeeded I imagine the success rate was still low.

 

[Unlucked]

Thing is that SN method is not bulletproof. I have read many topics on this forum and realized that many things can go wrong. And one more thing the assumption that if you survive an attempt there would be no consequences is wrong in my opinion.

Ah this scares me to be honest. I have SN stashed in a Mason jar, and I don't even know if it's still usable but I'm going to attempt with it anyways... I have nothing to lose at this point except they take away your disability payments if you attempt suicide and end up in the hospital.

So if I do end up failing and barfing for hours I'll have to ride it out at home.

 

[0000000000000]

I hate having to continue a life i don't want, having to waste my time in useless therapies that i don't want.

It is ironic how they say that life is a right but they apply it as if it were an obligation.

 

[disabledlife]

Some time ago (a week or two I think), I posted a thread "Am I not the only one who wants CTB in a brutal way? To punish the people who destroyed my life." (Attention, sensitive souls abstain).

I posted this thread because I have this impression, more and more tenacious, of being stuck living, in prison, in pain, both physical and psychiatric, and that it is more and more impossible to die by peaceful means!

I just wanted to know if other people had the same thoughts, the same cravings for CTB like this, and why.

But my will still remains to die peacefully! It would be cool to get N everywhere in the world, to benefit from assisted suicide (VAD), whatever the reasons, provided you are determined! It would be cool to be able to benefit from euthanasia for all people who are incapable of CTB or have a VAD (assisted suicide), whatever the reasons, because a suicide can be revoked at any time by the person. -even if she changes her mind, unlike euthanasia which can begin when the person changes her mind (but remains possible if suicide is not), the aim being to respect the wishes of the person, the principle of ultimate freedom.

But the pro-lifes push me to express my violent thoughts!!!!!

 

[peelingbananas]

However, their hero complexes will all come to an end as they too suffer one of the countless tragedies this life has to offer.

some people genuinely would like to help. it'd mostly be people who are close to you or just don't care about being seen all that much. it's human nature to care for and prioritise oneself, but that's what makes kindness so impressive. humans fight against things like that and their killer instincts and manage to spread positivity. a handful of people could be genuine. i wouldn't say everyone has a hero complex, because some are stronger and more mature than that. but you are correct, some people do. i wouldn't wish tragedy on anyone else. it's really painful.