Suicide censorship in depression forums is ridiculous

[noname223]

Years ago I searched for a mental health foum that fits to me. I was in a forum for people with psychosis. There were many people with conspiracy theories. Ironically they called me the crazy one when I asked in a thread about assisted suicide and how to get it. I have fund many other forums. I recognized one thins many depression forums censor suicidality. They say it can trigger other people if you talk openly about it. (Correct me if I am wrong it was years ago but I think this is the common practice in these forums) Of course many of them have suicidal thoughts. The problem does not get solved if you forbid to talk about it.
Even in those mental health forums you can get ridiculed and stigmatized when you talk about suicidality openly. One guy told about his unpleasent experience with reddit suicide posts.
Society does not want to acknowledge that there are people who do not want to live anymore. They treat us like pariah or outcasts.
I think it is clear that we are the victims and that we do not have a powerful lobby. Instead media turns on forums like this one.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Sadly, most of those sites are more concerned with getting infractions from big tech companies rather than providing a supportive space for people to vent honestly and openly.

I'm really sorry to hear your thoughts and feelings were shut down during an incredibly dark time where you were yearning for nothing but some honest to God compassion. It makes me seethe that society can paint this falsified, opaquely bullshit narrative that all you have to do is open up and talk to someone about your problems, all whilst honest and candid human feelings are consistently censored on these tech platforms.

I've experienced the exact same fake niceties in chronic illness support groups. Oh, you can post, as long as your thoughts don't toe the line of societally acceptable narratives about sucide. Any posts mentioning ctb or self harm are banned in a good chunk of chronic pain/illness groups, with a chipper disclaimer in their rules that, "We are not trained mental health professionals, please call this hotline!"

It is all a load of performative, see through virtue signalling to make people feel as if they're somehow making a difference/saving a life and nothing will ever change unless people acknowledge that uncomfortable conversations need to be had sometimes.

 

[NaughtyGirl]

I once googled "why is it so hard to find articles about suicide methods" and got spammed with suicide prevention websites links. What the fuck.

Why do I have to feel like I'm a criminal even though I'm asking a factual question? Why people whoa re arguably at the lowest points of their lives have feel like outcasts, pariahs and wrongdoers? How is feeling like I'm the bad guy supposed to help me? Ah right, it's not about me feeling better, it's about the people who make those decisions. No posts about suicide, no suicide, no problem.

And by the way, it's exactly because I read and practiced suicide myself that I know how difficult it is to pull it off. If I just went with the gut feeling as all those websites apparently want me to, I'd probably do something stupid and end up disabled. I thought for example about cutting my wrists first. It's only after I read how ineffective and painful it is that I decided not to do it. Before that I had a pretty strong conviction that it pretty damn lethal and relatively painless. Or what about all the people who shot themselves in the head, except instead of hitting the right part of their brain they blow their faces off, pierce their necks or just reduce their IQ by aiming at the wrong spots?

I'm generally more suicidal when I think about all the dumb censorious dipshits who think they're doing humanity a favour.

 

[Naufrago]

Those who do not feel what we always feel, never understood, it is easier to ridicule or ignore than to try to understand.

 

[FuneralCry]

Censorship will just make people more isolated. If the society wants to reduce the amount of people ctb, they need to focus on the underlying causes of what makes people suicidal, rather than censoring all conversation. If information about ctb is taken away then people may end up failing methods and end up with damage. I think many people are in denial of the fact that things can get that hopeless that one would consider suicide. They are under the delusion that life is always worth living. However whether life is worth living is up to the individual and nobody else has any say in it. We deserve a peaceful exit at a time of our own choosing, as we have no obligations to stay alive.

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

I don't want to gatekeep but I find it very difficult to take 'depression' seriously if the person hasn't considered suicide at some point. A situational low point in a person with job security, good social network, etc, isn't 'depression'.

Funny that suddenly everyone and their dog suffer mental health conditions but have zero suicidal thoughts and it makes zero impact on their lives. I honestly think this trend should be called out for the bullshit it is.

On suicide talk, it's known that mentioning suicide doesn't trigger it. People aren't THAT suggestible.

This 'mental health' drive is making no progress and is just pushing sufferers further to the fringes. Like the emergence of all these 500lb anorexics. Gimme a fucking break.

 

[Ash]

I understand why it's censored - suicide is frightening and devastating if you've never felt that way. And humans do have a tendency to copycat and/or get triggered by irresponsible reporting in the press, for example. And someone who wants to recover might get tripped up by it and that's not fair as death isn't something you can take back.

However that doesn't mean that sites like this one, which allows frank and honest discussions within certain guidelines, should be shut down. We're not casually stumbling across the posts. We're here because we want to be and we're able to make that informed decision.

 

[NaughtyGirl]

I understand why it's censored - suicide is frightening and devastating if you've never felt that way. And humans do have a tendency to copycat and/or get triggered by irresponsible reporting in the press, for example. And someone who wants to recover might get tripped up by it and that's not fair as death isn't something you can take back.

You say you understand why it's censored but I don't quite comprehend the explanation that you provided.

 

[Ash]

You say you understand why it's censored but I don't quite comprehend the explanation that you provided.

Sorry, best I can do atm

 

[LADY007]

I understand why it's censored - suicide is frightening and devastating if you've never felt that way. And humans do have a tendency to copycat and/or get triggered by irresponsible reporting in the press, for example. And someone who wants to recover might get tripped up by it and that's not fair as death isn't something you can take back.

However that doesn't mean that sites like this one, which allows frank and honest discussions within certain guidelines, should be shut down. We're not casually stumbling across the posts. We're here because we want to be and we're able to make that informed decision.

It goes deeper than that. Religion scares some people into thinking they will go to hell if they support any kind of self-deliverance. And very few want to be responsible for even slightly assisting a person doing this.