Might try to starve myself I wonder if that will be the best way to go
Have you researched it? It may take 10 days or more to die of dehydration. To starve longer. Sure you can try and see how long you can go. I think after some point you get organ damage. In a hot weather it would be faster
Isadeth
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It's not as easy as it sounds. It's slow and painful. And interventions will more than likely be done before ctb is achieved.
Lmd
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At some point you are gonna eat something for sure. It's like suffocation but slowly and more painful. Starve will affect your mood too and life will be worse and desperate.
If you voluntarily stop eating and drinking it would take you about 10 days to die on average. It's not supposed to be a bad way to die. People do this in countries where physician's assisted suicide is legal. The problem is if someone finds you after you get weak and pass out you'll end up in the hospital. So, unless you can go somewhere where no one will find for about 2 weeks it wouldn't work.
LookingOverTheEdge
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I have been fourteen full days without food before (still drinking liquids).
I wouldn't say it's a good method
I wouldn't say it's a good method
If you have access to a very cold weather you could look into freezing to death. Not sure what's like
You have to stop drinking liquids for it to work more quickly. You probably wouldn't have survived 2 full weeks without liquids.
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I wouldn't say it's the best way to go. If you drink but don't eat it could take months and it's likely you'll start eating again before you ctb. If you stop eating and drinking it can take 5 to 10 days but it won't be easy and it could be painful and uncomfortable at times. You would need a lot of willpower and make sure no-one intervenes.
Are they really legally allowed to force feed somebody who's deliberately starving?
It depends what country you're in. They can't in the US, for example, it's considered a violation of individual liberty.
In any case, if someone refuses to eat and the system force feeds them, but the person continues to not eat of their own accord, would they just keep force feeding them for months, years even? How long can that situation last? Surely there comes a time when you just have to let a person die of malnutrition if that is their desire?
Brick In The Wall
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It does work, but it's slow and painful.
Yes they are and will if you're found.
This is a fascinating documentary about a man who went into the woods and starved himself to death. It's based on the journal that he wrote and it's very well done. It's called "The Sound of Insects." The dude took 68 days to die, here's the trailer.
Isadeth
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Yes, it's kinda messed up, but they can either consider it mental illness driven (such as anorexia for example) and force nasal gastric tube you, or provide the needed nourishment through parenteral nutrition or Total parenteral Nutrition intravenously. They can also do whatever is needed to sustain life once you're unconscious, which then will likely end with the things options they have to "feed" you.
Theregoesthatidea
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to answer this question, Yes and they do. people with severe anorexia may be forced to be fed through a feeding tube by a legal guardian in a psychiatric hospital setting.
If you were to attempt this, you would have to do it without alerting anyone. maybe a solo road trip you haven't told anyone about? I do think it is possible, but it would not be easy, and there are a lot of things that can get in your way here.
Isadeth
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Where are you getting your information? There are many ways they can force feed in the United States against someone's will. I agree they should just stop, especially if it's someone's desire to die, but unless on active hospice/ palliative care with those advanced directives in place, it's very possible to be forced.
How long can such a situation last? If the person simply refuses to eat of their own accord, will the system just plug you into a nutrition drip indefinitely? Surely that is not feasible or realistic.
Isadeth
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It can be for years, as awful as that sounds. Whether they decide to eat, recover, or what have you. It really depends on the situation on why they're doing it in the first place.
I was only talking about those considered rational or mentally capable to make informed decisions. But then, who gets to decide who is rational or mentally capable?--the psychiatric system. So maybe I was too hasty in talking about individual liberty in the abstract. I think the US supreme court has affirmed the right to vsed, but this could only apply to specific settings.
It seems no one can force you to eat and surrigate your decision making process. Starvation has been used for ages to protest for political rights.
So far, judjes ruled for a full respect of someone's will just in case of sever diseases (like Alzheimer, coma).
Another case of double standards in our society...
So far, judjes ruled for a full respect of someone's will just in case of sever diseases (like Alzheimer, coma).
Another case of double standards in our society...
Isadeth
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Huge double standards, because unless you're terminal or legally able to ctb, good luck with achieving it without medical intervention stepping in.
LookingOverTheEdge
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Funnily enough, I wasn't actually trying to CTB at the time. I was just heartbroken and depressed and not eating.
There's a SCOTUS case in the 1910s that affirmed the rate to refuse medical care.
I guess hospitals get around that by saying that anybody who wants to starve themselves is incompetent.
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