Discussion SS has four times as many views as the National Suicide Prevention website.

[Anxieyote]

I was looking for articles relating to us in the national news, and I found this story. Not exactly sure how accurate this statistic is, but if so, it certainly paints an embarrassing picture for how ineffective mental health services are in the world.

I just hope they aren't exaggerating to get the site taken down. 6 million visitors per month? I have a hard time believing that personally, but maybe there are more lurkers than I thought. People who are just here for the resources maybe, and then dip after they've got the info? It just seems like an unbelievably massive number for the amount of users and guests I see online at any given moment.

 

[Shadowplay]

I was looking for articles relating to us in the national news, and I found this story. Not exactly sure how accurate this statistic is, but if so, it certainly paints an embarrassing picture for how ineffective mental health services are in the world.

I just hope they aren't exaggerating to get the site taken down. 6 million visitors per month? I have a hard time believing that personally, but maybe there are more lurkers than I thought. People who are just here for the resources maybe, and then dip after they've got the info? It just seems like an unbelievably massive number for the amount of users and guests I see online at any given moment.

6 million worldwide isn't that much if you include people that give this place a quick browse and leave.

 

[VKVK]

Nice.

 

[little helpers]

I suppose that's becuz we're an international forum?

powerful info nonetheless.

 

[Dot]

I suppose that's becuz we're an international forum?

powerful info nonetheless.

Yh intrnatnl sasu vs Natnl sui lne. Also thre only 1 - slwly bcmng 2 - versn of sasu & lts of prventn stes natnlly & globlly. Artcle twsts statstcs.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

How do we know that these are unique individual views and not just the same people refreshing the forum? Sometimes I literally refresh thousands of times in one day.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

I don't know why the National Suicide Prevention website would have any views. I've never seen the website but I know what its going to say.

 

[Crazy4u]

I don't know why the National Suicide Prevention website would have any views. I've never seen the website but I know what its going to say.

I checked the website a few months ago out of curiosity. It doesn't provide any solutions

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

I checked the website a few months ago out of curiosity. It doesn't provide any solutions

I checked it out after I posted what I said? And I was actually wrong, it says less than I originally expected. I thought it would give the hotline, advise calling an ambulance, seeking our a therapist, etc. All it said was what the hotline number was, and then praised itself and its efforts in preventing people from committing suicide.

I don't know what the fuck they're talking about, and I don't believe it. I've called hotlines like those before. The robotic way the person on the other side of the line spoke made me realize how alone I was in the world. It strengthened my suicidality unlike anything else. Its what fucking brought me here.

 

[Lostkitten1]

I would point out that SS is international, whereas the national suicide prevention services are not. Really to be "fair" you'd have to aggregate every suicide prevention service in every country and compare that with SS's figures. Of course no media will bother to do that, because huge discrepancies makes us look worse. It would be interesting but near impossible to work out how many people have been helped by this community, either to recover or to pass on, but of course that figure would be of no interest to our decriers.

 

[Salkak]

That's because suicide prevention websites are mostly useless.

 

[Wrennie]

I checked it out after I posted what I said? And I was actually wrong, it says less than I originally expected. I thought it would give the hotline, advise calling an ambulance, seeking our a therapist, etc. All it said was what the hotline number was, and then praised itself and its efforts in preventing people from committing suicide.

I don't know what the fuck they're talking about, and I don't believe it. I've called hotlines like those before. The robotic way the person on the other side of the line spoke made me realize how alone I was in the world. It strengthened my suicidality unlike anything else. Its what fucking brought me here.

I've mentioned this in the past but I've called them twice and literally no one answered. I'm kind of thankful for that though, because the types of people that work for those things are beyond useless and have roughly the same mental capacity for empathy as an invertebrate.

 

[Onthe29th]

I went on many different websites trying to find this website including Reddit. People who have actually used your site have positive opinions about it for the most part and have said that it made them choose not to commit suicide because they knew that there was a way out if they ever became depressed. Big surprise that people who have actually been suicidal and joined have good opinions while the people who have experienced neither think the opposite.

 

[WonderlandsFallen]

Oddly enough, the only website that I left feeling better from a suicidal spiral was from this one.

I never had to read a cliche "stay because you are loved!" or "there's so much to live for!" I was given raw, uncut, unfiltered words. I felt so understood when others took the time to acknowledge my pain and empathize rather than push my emotions off as something that would pass. When I'm feeling the worst, I want my feeling to be validated. I don't want to be forced to live because someone once felt sad and then found happiness. As if I'm supposed to fit in their perfect statistic of "people the suicide prevention hotline saved."

They don't considered "saved" as those who feel better and want to live again by the way. They considered "saved" as those who haven't immediately killed themselves.

I wish I could show them how many people who get off those hotlines just end up feeling dejected but too tired to actually do anything. Surviving is not living.

 

[Starryeyes]

Not all too surprising considering the
' help ' professionals give.

 

[Lostkitten1]

Speaking as someone who has supported others (with hindsight, badly) feeling suicidal before my personal and sometimes ongoing self-destructive tendancies, nobody can know what you're going through without experiencing it themselves. All those doctors, therapists, psychologists etc. that claim they know what it's like, they don't know the first thing about it. Until you've stood on the edge of the abyss and considered jumping as a logical option, you can't know what it's like. For people who don't know, pray you never do. For the rest of us, all we can do is talk about it, respect a person's right to choose, and support them whichever way they want to go. And for a lot of people who end up here in their darkest days, simply being able to talk about it openly with others who genuinely know what it's like is enough to start to turn everything around. We do good here, long may we continue

 

[Pure]

I'm sure the number paints a false picture. SS is used internationally. The American national suicide prevention website is used by....Americans. I'm sure if you aggregate all the national websites of all countries they'd all exceed 6 million.

 

[TimetoGo!]

Yh intrnatnl sasu vs Natnl sui lne. Also thre only 1 - slwly bcmng 2 - versn of sasu & lts of prventn stes natnlly & globlly. Artcle twsts statstcs.

Eh

 

[sevenkarmas]

Some of the views are probably due to pro-lifers and hall monitors to see what we're discussing and look for vectors (suppliers, sources, online documentation) to go after.

 

[IBM0000]

Some of the views are probably due to pro-lifers and hall monitors to see what we're discussing and look for vectors (suppliers, sources, online documentation) to go after.

You never know who's a rat in the moderation staff or if even this whole website is actually an operation run by a cia-like entity...Mostly a joke.

 

[TheSource]

Yh intrnatnl sasu vs Natnl sui lne. Also thre only 1 - slwly bcmng 2 - versn of sasu & lts of prventn stes natnlly & globlly. Artcle twsts statstcs.

"Yeah, international Sanctioned Suicide vs. National Suicide Line. Also, there's only one – slowly becoming two – version of Sanctioned Suicide and lots of prevention sites nationally and globally. Article twists statistics."

 

[Morgengrauen]

Not only is the national suicide hotline website a joke but also comparing an international forum with a national helpline site of one country is kinda silly.

But the US of course is the world thus not an exageration for more ad revenue flow on the article right? /sarcasm

 

[Darkover]

you can use this website to check the ranking of websites

https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/

 

[wait.what]

They considered "saved" as those who haven't immediately killed themselves.

I want a job with that kind of success metric. "Did the caller literally kill themselves rather than stay on the phone with you for one more moment? No? Hooray! Great job!"

 

[Seered Doom]

you can use this website to check the ranking of websites

https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/

Apparently, when you put in mental health, what I got for number 36 was incels.is
That, and Sasu gets 1.1 million views

https://www.similarweb.com/website/sanctioned-suicide.net/#overview