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kalius837

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there is the Somatic Death, a method which consists of suggestion, magick, culture, but how to succeed?
as April 2020 there is not one referral on this forum: i am suprised it was neither wrote nor mentioned

edges are: infallible; fail-safe; sure-fire; guaranteed; anywhere; painless; nobody can/may/shall/might stop us; whoever/everybody; whenever; in conclusion smooth

we also need some guidelines on the wiki. the Golden Bough of Frazer cites many exemples, and it is often involven a sorcerer
now write, Method Up:
 
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After you get it down, let us know.
 
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I don't want to be unkind, but...I am so tempted to be.
 
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uhhhh what?
 
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kalius837

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guys, to address some doubts: there is a full referenced article on Wikipedia, scholar research and success-cases, what do you need more?
 
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pete_x

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Electrocution would probably be a better approach. Shuts your brain off almost instantly [well for me anyway] provided the connection isn't broken. I learned that by accident back in highschool when i plugged in a janky electric guitar a friend had given me. I've used a "parasympathetic" heartbeat trick an ex taught me to get back to center.
But other than that meh.
 
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there is the Somatic Death, a method which consists of suggestion, magick, culture, but how to succeed?
as April 2020 there is not one referral on this forum: i am suprised it was neither wrote nor mentioned

edges are: infallible; fail-safe; sure-fire; guaranteed; anywhere; painless; nobody can/may/shall/might stop us; whoever/everybody; whenever; in conclusion smooth

we also need some guidelines on the wiki. the Golden Bough of Frazer cites many exemples, and it is often involven a sorcerer
now write, Method Up:
guys, to address some doubts: there is a full referenced article on Wikipedia, scholar research and success-cases, what do you need more?

I'd normally be the prime candidate for saying something both intelligent and sarcastic in response to these kind of posts, but figured I'd shake up those perceptions a little on this occasion :ahhha:

There is certainly a connection between strong emotional reactions and physiological effects, and most members will have experienced increased heartbeat, tunnel vision, shaking or even fainting during highly emotional situations. However, this response is neither predictable nor strong enough to be used as a method of causing death, either to yourself or others. And for that example, I'm talking about overtly inflicting an emotional shock upon someone and causing them physiological effects.

The term 'Voodoo death' is an unfortunate one, as when interpreted literally it refers to a completely fictionalised concept of inducing death in someone else merely through manipulating a voodoo doll symbolising them without their knowledge. That mechanism alone, obviously, is a completely impossible one. Whereas actually telling someone who strongly believes in voodoo that you have manipulated a doll of them may well cause them intense fear and even death, not as a result of voodoo powers but as a result of the physiological reactions caused by intense fear.

The fact that something has a referenced article on Wikipedia does not give it credibility for two reasons. Firstly, anyone can edit Wikipedia, regardless of their knowledge or their intentions. Secondly, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It describes all manner of things, both valid theories (i.e. gravity) and fictional concepts (i.e. ghosts). It does not claim to give any inherent credibility to the topics it describes.

Any research into psychosomatic death will only have found the broad connection between emotions and physiological effects. Any 'success-cases' will likely be anecdotal and not conducted scientifically. And such cases will also be rare and typically involve extremes of emotion, such as people dying after receiving traumatic news, or from the emotional trauma of a concentration camp. None of these scenarios are practical or compatible with inducing a suicidal death in yourself.

Unfortunately, the closest real thing to voodoo death is probably going to be slowly niggling at someone to raise their stress levels over a number of years, this leading to higher blood pressure levels, and that person then dying several years earlier than their ideal life expectancy.
 
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The simplest method, requires a sorcerer. Smooth. Fuck me...
 
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Any research into psychosomatic death will only have found the broad connection between emotions and physiological effects. Any 'success-cases' will likely be anecdotal and not conducted scientifically. And such cases will also be rare and typically involve extremes of emotion, such as people dying after receiving traumatic news, or from the emotional trauma of a concentration camp. None of these scenarios are practical or compatible with inducing a suicidal death in yourself.
Completely agree with you ... However much we would like to have this option as another viable means to Ctb, the method seems a very long shot almost nil chances.
 
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I was wondering why I can't see in my right eye....
 
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I was wondering why I can't see in my right eye....

As a bonus, here's a representation of what certain forum members would love to do to me and my infographics... :ahhha:

Voodoo doll autumnal infographic
 
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kalius837

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i accept the objections. just imagine who is in psychiatric wards: one can threaten it and get away. if one is committed there, it is very similar to concentration camps et simila. and "psychiatrists" can do nothing. so some doability and viablity: you shall not do time ;)

@autumnal you made my day
so i guess this is a starting point... (creepy suspension points)
how is that done? url?
 
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Almost died due to psychosomatic influences but I'm posting! Fainted driving on the highway during rush hour, out like a light. Yup painless, yup difficult to achieve, yup my method risky af to others. Developing a sleep disorder and consistently over exerting the body can do wonders towards moving you closer. Was likely going to happen sooner or later.

1* not worth the process to get there or fallout after
 
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i accept the objections. just imagine who is in psychiatric wards: one can threaten it and get away. if one is committed there, it is very similar to concentration camps et simila. and "psychiatrists" can do nothing. so some doability and viablity: you shall not do time ;)

@autumnal you made my day
so i guess this is a starting point... (creepy suspension points)
how is that done? url?

Sorry, but I literally cannot understand what any of this post is meant to mean. Can you try rephrasing it?
 
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kalius837

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Sorry, but I literally cannot understand what any of this post is meant to mean. Can you try rephrasing it?
is there a website that you used to make that jpg? or have you used photoshop?
thanks for consideration, english is not my first language
 
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is there a website that you used to make that jpg? or have you used photoshop?
thanks for consideration, english is not my first language

Just found an existing image online and then used Photoshop.

I meant I didn't understand this part of your post:

i accept the objections. just imagine who is in psychiatric wards: one can threaten it and get away. if one is committed there, it is very similar to concentration camps et simila. and "psychiatrists" can do nothing. so some doability and viablity: you shall not do time ;)​
 
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something about the OP makes me wanna kill myself more, just reading it... Ughh...:mmm:
 
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kalius837

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to put it simple: in psychiatric wards, this is one of the most practicable

something about the OP makes me wanna kill myself more, just reading it... Ughh...:mmm:

it is my english or my spell casted on mankind...
 
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Kumachan

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to put it simple: in psychiatric wards, this is one of the most practicable



it is my english or my spell casted on mankind...
Its English, and something I cant quite put my finger on maybe a spell, where're you from?
 
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Just found an existing image online and then used Photoshop.

I meant I didn't understand this part of your post:

i accept the objections. just imagine who is in psychiatric wards: one can threaten it and get away. if one is committed there, it is very similar to concentration camps et simila. and "psychiatrists" can do nothing. so some doability and viablity: you shall not do time ;)​
Translation- If you're stuck in a psych ward, you can kill your self via somatic death
 
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Translation- If you're stuck in a psych ward, you can kill your self via somatic death

@kalius837, what if one is not able to reach the sorcerer?

I don't yet see how this can be the most simple and effective death if it requires the participation of another person. Is the sorcery done in advance, so that one can claim the voodoo when they are ready for it? Or can they do the sorcery for themselves?
 
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@kalius837, what if one is not able to reach the sorcerer?

I don't yet see how this can be the most simple and effective death if it requires the participation of another person. Is the sorcery done in advance, so that one can claim the voodoo when they are ready for it? Or can they do the sorcery for themselves?

Haven't you watched Harry Potter? It takes three kids, a house elf and a flying car. And some veritaserum prepared by Alan Rickman - good luck with that one.
 
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Dude harry and ron are just dead weight
 
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Haven't you watched Harry Potter? It takes three kids, a house elf and a flying car. And some veritaserum prepared by Alan Rickman - good luck with that one.

That was fiction. This is real.

(I'm really straddling a line here. I'm treating the topic as serious, but I admit I also smirk every time I enter the thread. Still, I could be in error, I could learn something, and a bad attitude would come back to...haunt me. So as long as the OP doesn't act like a troll, I will treat him/her and the discussion with respect.)

But hey, wait, I see you were serious. The problem is that Alan Rickman is dead. Where is the remaining veritaserum? And how can one ensure it won't be confiscated in the psych ward?
 
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@pete_x this post should have been right up your alley
Hi, i didn't mean to say that there are no real effective mental disciplines, there are, but none of them are easy or timely. Btw Hermoine could manage most mischief on her own. Funny turn of phrase I've slept in alleys on many wonderful occasions ! =)
 
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That was fiction. This is real.

(I'm really straddling a line here. I'm treating the topic as serious, but I admit I also smirk every time I enter the thread. Still, I could be in error, I could learn something, and a bad attitude would come back to...haunt me. So as long as the OP doesn't act like a troll, I will treat him/her and the discussion with respect.)

But hey, wait, I see you were serious. The problem is that Alan Rickman is dead. Where is the remaining veritaserum? And how can one ensure it won't be confiscated in the psych ward?

Fair point. Maybe the op is earnest. I admit I don't understand how "culture" can kill someone, but I have heard of people who got sudden migraines from looking for too long at a Kandinskij so who knows? I could be wrong.

As far as veritaserum is concerned, you will have to ask Sybill Trelawney.
 
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kalius837

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fellows, neither i witnessed this death, so almost nobody except me (as i see) believe this method. so:
1) i posted for who having no other thing than his body to free the soul from this world, it would be useful
2) i quote «it is particularly noted in native societies, and concentration- or prisoner of war camps, but the condition is not specific to any particular culture». so, nobody requires a "magician" or other "devices" than his own body, ok? it is not even required a "knowledge", simply being in an hard situation allows it

now, let's come back IT. who posts OT just put OT please. the pivot is that i want to accomplish this Somatic Death for a number of reasons. i hope that in SS i find some useful info, so please help (me/us)
 
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