DesperateChallenge

DesperateChallenge

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Oct 25, 2018
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Hey guys... Army veteran here who has been living with PTSD, severe anxiety, depression, and severe suicidal thoughts for four years. I've had three failed attempts:
1) March 2016- 100 tramadol, 30 ambien, 30 lunesta, washed down with a bottle of rum... I was told it would have worked except my supervisor decided to check on my a second time that weekend and came to my apartment when I didn't answer, finding me unresponsive. A few days in the hospital plus 10 days in psych ward.
2) November 2016- half hearted attempt... tried to drink antifreeze but one sip and the taste was god awful. I want to vomit at the smell now. Then took 150 x 600mg Tylenol. Slept for two days and threw up a ton as expected. That time the intent to die wasn't solid.
3) 60+ Xanax and a bottle of rum. Someone called the cops because they couldn't find me and after searching they found me in the woods unresponsive. Don't remember anything for three or so days afterwards, spent two weeks in psych ward.

7 hospitalizations (3 days to two weeks) in the last three years, plus a month long residential PTSD treatment program, plus weekly therapy for the last year and here I am, still dealing with the same shit.
I've been intensely suicidal this week, cancelled my appointment yesterday, part of me hoping the therapist would ask why, but nope. Then went in and talked about how my SI was 8/10 earlier, at time of appt was 6/10, then this morning reported 8+/10 (I am required to check in daily). Nobody cares. I want help to make this all better, which at this point the only way is to die. I have peace with that, but don't have the guts to shoot myself due to extreme fear of failing again.

So, after reading the PPH, it seems like Sodium Azide would be a pretty sure way to go if it's done correctly... any thoughts? I've ordered 100g of it which should be here in a week.

I've also thought about injecting horse tranquilizers into my vein- acepromizine to be specific because it's what I have access to. I don't think I can get access to enough dormosedan to be a sure death because it's pretty highly controlled in the veterinary community. I have 20 mL of ace drawn up- 5 mg is enough to knock my 1800lb horse out pretty well... I'm 250. There are very few case studies on acepromazine lethality in humans. I've found one or two where someone has died from it (from the pill form, I believe), and one where a vet planned to inject 3mL to kill herself but then backed out. I FEEL like 20mL should do the job but there is so little information out there on successes or failures that it makes me a bit nervous. I've had this drawn up for months- all of the doctors freak out when I tell them that is my plan, but I still worry about failure

I've also thought about hanging, and went to buy rope last night but Lowe's was closed, so I continued my research and I think that option is still a good one.

Mostly looking for thoughts/concerns or any case studies on sodium azide or acepromazine that may make me more comfortable on success rate. Glad to have found this forum... the PPH was a great resource and I learned a lot after reading it this morning.
 
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Stryxmain

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Oct 24, 2018
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I'm sorry for what you've been through. SA seems like a reliable way to go. The survival rate might be a bit skewed you know. A lot of accidents happen in labs/research center/agriculture and whatnot. These people get medical help pretty fast...greatly increasing their odds of survival.

I believe PPeH recommends 5g in 50ml distilled water however for a 250lb male, increasing the dose to 10g in 100ml of water and maybe adding 2-3 "00" gelatin capsules filled with sodium azide wouldn't be a bad idea
 
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Hey guys... Army veteran here who has been living with PTSD, severe anxiety, depression, and severe suicidal thoughts for four years. I've had three failed attempts:
1) March 2016- 100 tramadol, 30 ambien, 30 lunesta, washed down with a bottle of rum... I was told it would have worked except my supervisor decided to check on my a second time that weekend and came to my apartment when I didn't answer, finding me unresponsive. A few days in the hospital plus 10 days in psych ward.
2) November 2016- half hearted attempt... tried to drink antifreeze but one sip and the taste was god awful. I want to vomit at the smell now. Then took 150 x 600mg Tylenol. Slept for two days and threw up a ton as expected. That time the intent to die wasn't solid.
3) 60+ Xanax and a bottle of rum. Someone called the cops because they couldn't find me and after searching they found me in the woods unresponsive. Don't remember anything for three or so days afterwards, spent two weeks in psych ward.

7 hospitalizations (3 days to two weeks) in the last three years, plus a month long residential PTSD treatment program, plus weekly therapy for the last year and here I am, still dealing with the same shit.
I've been intensely suicidal this week, cancelled my appointment yesterday, part of me hoping the therapist would ask why, but nope. Then went in and talked about how my SI was 8/10 earlier, at time of appt was 6/10, then this morning reported 8+/10 (I am required to check in daily). Nobody cares. I want help to make this all better, which at this point the only way is to die. I have peace with that, but don't have the guts to shoot myself due to extreme fear of failing again.

So, after reading the PPH, it seems like Sodium Azide would be a pretty sure way to go if it's done correctly... any thoughts? I've ordered 100g of it which should be here in a week.

I've also thought about injecting horse tranquilizers into my vein- acepromizine to be specific because it's what I have access to. I don't think I can get access to enough dormosedan to be a sure death because it's pretty highly controlled in the veterinary community. I have 20 mL of ace drawn up- 5 mg is enough to knock my 1800lb horse out pretty well... I'm 250. There are very few case studies on acepromazine lethality in humans. I've found one or two where someone has died from it (from the pill form, I believe), and one where a vet planned to inject 3mL to kill herself but then backed out. I FEEL like 20mL should do the job but there is so little information out there on successes or failures that it makes me a bit nervous. I've had this drawn up for months- all of the doctors freak out when I tell them that is my plan, but I still worry about failure

I've also thought about hanging, and went to buy rope last night but Lowe's was closed, so I continued my research and I think that option is still a good one.

Mostly looking for thoughts/concerns or any case studies on sodium azide or acepromazine that may make me more comfortable on success rate. Glad to have found this forum... the PPH was a great resource and I learned a lot after reading it this morning.
ArmyVet here too I feel for you mate I tied sodium azide and this is only about my attempt it was hell I took Tagamet before and some alcohol I took around 2 grams I got the shakes panic and fear set in palpitations were crazy migraine was unreal felt like my head was going to explode I stayed with it sure I was going to collapse unconscious it never came about 8 hours later still with these symptoms the violent vomiting came blue yellow green bile for around 24 hours it took about 3 days to shake of most of it now it's been over a week I'm still dizzy have collapsed 3 times twice in public my eyesight has been affected and my feet feel numb
 
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ArmyVet here too I feel for you mate I tied sodium azide and this is only about my attempt it was hell I took Tagamet before and some alcohol I took around 2 grams I got the shakes panic and fear set in palpitations were crazy migraine was unreal felt like my head was going to explode I stayed with it sure I was going to collapse unconscious it never came about 8 hours later still with these symptoms the violent vomiting came blue yellow green bile for around 24 hours it took about 3 days to shake of most of it now it's been over a week I'm still dizzy have collapsed 3 times twice in public my eyesight has been affected and my feet feel numb

Have you seen a doctor at all ? How did you ingest the sodium azide exactly?
May I know how you calculated 2grams? For this purpose I would suggest a high precision digital milligram scale. I'm just trying to get a better idea of how many grams you actually ingested.
 
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Trashcan

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Sodium azide has no antidote, but just be aware that if you vomit it up or any remaining gases could be harmful to others, so it's a good idea to post some kind of warning sign.
 
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Oct 24, 2018
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Did you have to have any kind of license or permit to order the sodium azide?
 
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Dogsbody

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Oct 22, 2018
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Hey guys... Army veteran here who has been living with PTSD, severe anxiety, depression, and severe suicidal thoughts for four years. I've had three failed attempts:
1) March 2016- 100 tramadol, 30 ambien, 30 lunesta, washed down with a bottle of rum... I was told it would have worked except my supervisor decided to check on my a second time that weekend and came to my apartment when I didn't answer, finding me unresponsive. A few days in the hospital plus 10 days in psych ward.
2) November 2016- half hearted attempt... tried to drink antifreeze but one sip and the taste was god awful. I want to vomit at the smell now. Then took 150 x 600mg Tylenol. Slept for two days and threw up a ton as expected. That time the intent to die wasn't solid.
3) 60+ Xanax and a bottle of rum. Someone called the cops because they couldn't find me and after searching they found me in the woods unresponsive. Don't remember anything for three or so days afterwards, spent two weeks in psych ward.

7 hospitalizations (3 days to two weeks) in the last three years, plus a month long residential PTSD treatment program, plus weekly therapy for the last year and here I am, still dealing with the same shit.
I've been intensely suicidal this week, cancelled my appointment yesterday, part of me hoping the therapist would ask why, but nope. Then went in and talked about how my SI was 8/10 earlier, at time of appt was 6/10, then this morning reported 8+/10 (I am required to check in daily). Nobody cares. I want help to make this all better, which at this point the only way is to die. I have peace with that, but don't have the guts to shoot myself due to extreme fear of failing again.

So, after reading the PPH, it seems like Sodium Azide would be a pretty sure way to go if it's done correctly... any thoughts? I've ordered 100g of it which should be here in a week.

I've also thought about injecting horse tranquilizers into my vein- acepromizine to be specific because it's what I have access to. I don't think I can get access to enough dormosedan to be a sure death because it's pretty highly controlled in the veterinary community. I have 20 mL of ace drawn up- 5 mg is enough to knock my 1800lb horse out pretty well... I'm 250. There are very few case studies on acepromazine lethality in humans. I've found one or two where someone has died from it (from the pill form, I believe), and one where a vet planned to inject 3mL to kill herself but then backed out. I FEEL like 20mL should do the job but there is so little information out there on successes or failures that it makes me a bit nervous. I've had this drawn up for months- all of the doctors freak out when I tell them that is my plan, but I still worry about failure

I've also thought about hanging, and went to buy rope last night but Lowe's was closed, so I continued my research and I think that option is still a good one.

Mostly looking for thoughts/concerns or any case studies on sodium azide or acepromazine that may make me more comfortable on success rate. Glad to have found this forum... the PPH was a great resource and I learned a lot after reading it this morning.

Thank you for your service to the country and I'm sorry we couldn't take better care of you.
 
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I'd look into 1. Nembutal 3. Inert gas 3. Sodium nitrite if your broke

There are no observed deaths by high dose sodium azide, nitche briefly talks about it being fast, in a video but you can tell he thinks it's a bad way to go, it's unclear if you would lose consciousness before death, as you would with sodium nitrite.
 
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I'd look into 1. Nembutal 3. Inert gas 3. Sodium nitrite if your broke

There are no observed deaths by high dose sodium azide, nitche briefly talks about it being fast, in a video but you can tell he thinks it's a bad way to go, it's unclear if you would lose consciousness before death, as you would with sodium nitrite.

Thanks for this info... i will look into Nitrogen. I didn't want to order it because I was worried about family wondering why I was having a tank of nitrogen delivered. Because of my job I cannot take the risk of getting caught importing N.

I CANNOT fail again. I lost my Army career because I failed at trying to kill myself and then they said they didn't have the services to help me. If I fail again, I will likely lose my current (great) job and I can't deal with the failure again.
 
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Did you have to have any kind of license or permit to order the sodium azide?

@janedoep No- it's available on eBay and Amazon among other places. Who knows what kind of quality it is, but it's available.
 
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