Help SN without Antiemetic

[iOnceFeltAlive]

So I'm contemplating to CTB with SN. But I find it really unlikely that I will be able to get a prescription antiemetic. Would it be possible to replace It with something otc? I have Xanax and can get Most of the other suggested drugs. (I live in the Chicago area btw)

Also is it possible to CTB by snorting 40$ worth of heroin in one line with no tolerance to opiates? Or is that not enough?

 

[autumnal]

So I'm contemplating to CTB with SN. But I find it really unlikely that I will be able to get a prescription antiemetic. Would it be possible to replace It with something otc? I have Xanax and can get Most of the other suggested drugs. (I live in the Chicago area btw)

Also is it possible to CTB by snorting 40$ worth of heroin in one line with no tolerance to opiates? Or is that not enough?

The PPH recommends an antiemetic. In Stan's Guide the antiemetic is not technically required, but I would strongly suggest you obtain it if at all possible. Have you considered purchasing it online from a site that does not require any prescription or consultation?

Obtaining the other suggested medications is useful for their own benefits, but none of them replace the role of the antiemetic, which is generally regarded as the most important optional component.

I have no idea as to the heroin question. It might be worth you doing a search for the topic, I believe there is a megathread about it.

 

[RileyTanaka]

No, don't cut corners and start experimenting. The antiemetic is recommended for a reason and is the only proven way to prevent vomiting SN. There are other avenues to getting antiemetics, you may need to look at international pharmacies.

 

[Lost1804]

I'm in the UK. I bought Prochlorperazine over the counter in a pharmacy for vertigo. I get it quite bad when it hits. If you don't know how it affects you, the room literally spins round. Everything spins round quite rapidly. Can't walk, or move without help/something to hold tight onto. It's still the same when you shut your eyes. Sleeps impossible. Vomitting as well. Can't go out. My M in L went to town and got them after I rang the pharmacist. Docs was closed, Saturday. Hubby wouldn't leave me alone, not safe. Worth a try?

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

No, don't cut corners and start experimenting. The antiemetic is recommended for a reason and is the only proven way to prevent vomiting SN.

Without undermining the importance of the AE, I think it's important to disclaim that many people still vomit even with taking the AE.

OTC meds won't work. You need an AE that's a dopamine blocker.

 

[Lost1804]

Without undermining the importance of the AE, I think it's important to disclaim that many people still vomit even with taking the AE.

OTC meds won't work. You need an AE that's a dopamine blocker.

I was under the impression that Prochlorperazine would work?

 

[JB1999]

I don't have any meto either. I have a strong stomach though, so I'm just going on without any. Just Antacids, Tylenol, Ibuprofin and good ol' SN

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I was under the impression that Prochlorperazine would work?

Yes, you are right. It should work. I didn't realize it was available OTC. My bad.

 

[Lost1804]

Yes, you are right. It should work. I didn't realize it was available OTC. My bad.

I don't know if it would be normally. But I was desperate and docs were closed. It cost just under £10. UK that is.

But somebody wanting it could possibly plead vertigo with their GP? Last time I got another one from my GP, it wasn't Prochlorperazine but can't remember what it was. I'd had the vertigo 3 days! It was hell...

 

[Nymph]

Some people have a strong stomach and it will work for them without antimetics. I personal wouldn't risk it even though I have only thrown up a few times during my life and usually when I feel nauseous and "about to throw up" I never actually end up throwing up. I did manage to buy ranitidine.

 

[falloutcarter13]

So I'm contemplating to CTB with SN. But I find it really unlikely that I will be able to get a prescription antiemetic. Would it be possible to replace It with something otc? I have Xanax and can get Most of the other suggested drugs. (I live in the Chicago area btw)

Also is it possible to CTB by snorting 40$ worth of heroin in one line with no tolerance to opiates? Or is that not enough?

I know that in the US, its pretty easy to legally get a prescription anti-emetic. All you have to do is walk into one of the emergency clinics like UrgentCare and say you cannot stop vomiting. They're pretty willing to prescribe a small script of Zofran or something similar, since it's not considered a drug of potential abuse. An added bonus is that even with no health insurance, this shouldn't cost any more than $150 (a small price to pay for how important it may be to you, imo). Another bonus is they'll likely give you a free one while you're there, included in the price of your visit...there's your tolerance test right there. Best of luck!

 

[autumnal]

I don't have any meto either. I have a strong stomach though, so I'm just going on without any. Just Antacids, Tylenol, Ibuprofin and good ol' SN

Some people have a strong stomach and it will work for them without antimetics. I personal wouldn't risk it even though I have only thrown up a few times during my life and usually when I feel nauseous and "about to throw up" I never actually end up throwing up. I did manage to buy ranitidine.

The mechanisms behind nausea and vomiting due to poisoning are entirely different from those due to many other causes. So having a 'strong stomach' or a lack of vomiting in other situations (disgusting foods, motion sickness, intoxication etc.) does not mean you are less likely to vomit from poisoning.

The antiemetic may be technically optional in Stan's Guide, but the reason for it being optional is totally unrelated to the personal nausea history or tendencies of the individual.

 

[Deformationalplagio]

The mechanisms behind nausea and vomiting due to poisoning are entirely different from those due to many other causes. So having a 'strong stomach' or a lack of vomiting in other situations (disgusting foods, motion sickness, intoxication etc.) does not mean you are less likely to vomit from poisoning.

The antiemetic may be technically optional in Stan's Guide, but the reason for it being optional is totally unrelated to the personal nausea history or tendencies of the individual.

It is the same as vomiting from intoxication though its litterly the reaction of the body doing that knowing something toxic has entered your body. If you dont vommit from alcohol intoxication you have better chances of not vommiting from sn. An anti emetic that prevents vommiting due toxication simply does not exist because why would they. Blocking the right neurotransmitters is a complex thing and all anti emtics have there own field of working. Like motionsickness, or flu etc. But nothing for intoxication

 

[iOnceFeltAlive]

I'm in my 20s. Wouldn't the doctor be suspicious if I say I'm throwing up a lot and have migraines but I'm not showing any visible symptoms? And is it possible for them to prescribe me something that wouldn't work as a dopmine inhibitor? I'm really skeptical about this whole thing.

 

[Lost1804]

Yes, you are right. It should work. I didn't realize it was available OTC. My bad.

In the UK Prochlorperazine can be purchased in Boots chemists under the name baccalaureate m

Yes, you are right. It should work. I didn't realize it was available OTC. My bad.

I have checked. Prochlorperazine can be bought at Boots in the UK under the name Baccastem M. Around £7. Meto needs a prescription.
Don't know if Baccastem M can be purchased OTC in the states?

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I have checked. Prochlorperazine can be bought at Boots in the UK under the name Baccastem M. Around £7. Meto needs a prescription.
Don't know if Baccastem M can be purchased OTC in the states?

Not as far as I know. All the antiemetics listed in Stan's Guide are prescription only here.

 

[Bauhaus]

The mechanisms behind nausea and vomiting due to poisoning are entirely different from those due to many other causes. So having a 'strong stomach' or a lack of vomiting in other situations (disgusting foods, motion sickness, intoxication etc.) does not mean you are less likely to vomit from poisoning.

Interesting, I thought 5-HT3 antagonists (i.e.Ondansetron) used by cancerpatients for chemotherapy would also help, but apparently this doesn't help with acute poisoning.
I remember domperidon & meto were once OTC, but I just checked the site and they're now too Rx where I live ... I wonder why.

 

[Lost1804]

I'll ring our pharmacy today and ask for Baccastem M and see what they say and get back to you....

 

[iOnceFeltAlive]

Hey I know this is probably a shot in the dark but will an ACE inhibitor do anything similar to an antiemetic? My dad has some of that.

 

[Lost1804]

Not as far as I know. All the antiemetics listed in Stan's Guide are prescription only here.

Right, after a few phone calls I have discovered that in the UK Baccastem M is available from Boots chemists ONLINE! Most don't stock it. And you have got to say it's for migraine sickness. They don't provide it for travel sickness anymore unless it's on prescription.
They don't give you many at a time, but I don't really know how many you need. So may have to go back a couple of times?
But, at least we can get them in the UK.

 

[autumnal]

Hey I know this is probably a shot in the dark but will an ACE inhibitor do anything similar to an antiemetic? My dad has some of that.

No, not at all.

 

[tidalwxves]

The PPH recommends an antiemetic. In Stan's Guide the antiemetic is not technically required, but I would strongly suggest you obtain it if at all possible. Have you considered purchasing it online from a site that does not require any prescription or consultation?

Obtaining the other suggested medications is useful for their own benefits, but none of them replace the role of the antiemetic, which is generally regarded as the most important optional component.

I have no idea as to the heroin question. It might be worth you doing a search for the topic, I believe there is a megathread about it.

I am in the same situation as OP and I have been unable to find any sites that don't require a prescription except for one that was sold out. If you know of others please share, it would be much appreciated.

 

[Troopper]

Been looking around, but hard to find somewhere where they don't need presciption, but gonna keep looking. Havent been able to find anything on the more hidden markets aswell.

 

[thirdwitch]

The notion that you can just walk into a clinic or doctor's office in the US, tell them you're vomiting uncontrollably, and walk out with a prescription, no questions asked, is patently absurd.