SN question. Urgent.

[Westbren]

First, sorry for my very bad english. Can I keep SN in a too hot place? I live in a place like this, especially in my room. It's really hot. I have no options to keep this elsewhere. Can there be a problem if i do it? My room some afternoons comes close to 40°C. I am not kidding. Keeping it in a hot place has no risk that the SN might burn with something? Causing a fire? Sorry if i'm asking silly questions. I'm very worried.

I received my SN yesterday. I was so paranoid when i read that is not recommended to keep it in hot places that i threw it away. I feel like an imbecile. I really need some advice.

 

[Defenestrator]

As long as it's kept sealed and not allowed to get damp it should be fine. I mean, you're not planning on storing it for a really long time right?

Wait, you threw it away? Where? It's very toxic for aquatic environments. Be careful of how you dispose of it.
Just to expand; it won't burn anything and doesn't really become a problem under just heat alone. As long as it's sealed/stored properly and not allowed to get damp/wet while in storage, it'll be fine and will remain useable.

 

[Westbren]

As long as it's kept sealed and not allowed to get damp it should be fine. I mean, you're not planning on storing it for a really long time right? Wait, you threw it away? Where? It's very toxic for aquatic environments. Be careful of how you dispose of it.

The expiration date was 2023. I would keep this until 2020 or 2021.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I feel like an imbecile

Welcome to my world ;)

 

[Defenestrator]

The expiration date was 2023. I would keep this until 2020 or 2021.

Alright, just don't keep it in direct sunlight and try and keep it somewhere dark and dry (and as cool as possible) and it will be totally fine.

Nitrates are the explosive ones usually.
Also, don't go opening up the container too much either as moisture can build up in there.

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The main issue with storing things improperly over a long time is they're decompose/react with their surroundings into more volatile compounds.
Your concern is actually a wise thing, not stupid, so don't worry about that.

In this case I think you'll be fine though.

 

[Westbren]

I have generalized anxiety. It's hell. I think it contributed a lot to my panic from yesterday. Dark and dry place is ok, but cool it's not possible. The climate where I live does not allow this. I would open SN only on the day that I would drink it.

 

[Defenestrator]

I have generalized anxiety. It's hell. I think it contributed a lot to my panic from yesterday. Dark and dry place is ok, but cool it's not possible. The climate where I live does not allow this. I would open SN only on the day that I would drink it.

Just to confirm, it's in its original crystalline form right? Do not make it up in water until you're going to use it and I'm sure you already know this but want to make sure.

Good luck when the time comes.

 

[Westbren]

Just to confirm, it's in its original crystalline form right? Do not make it up in water until you're going to use it and I'm sure you already know this but want to make sure.

Good luck when the time comes.

I believe so. I didn't open the SN. So, is it ok to keep SN in a dark, too hot and dry environment? If so, I think I have to buy again. God, I'm ashamed of myself.

 

[Defenestrator]

I believe so. I didn't open the SN. So, is it ok to keep SN in a dark, too hot and dry environment? If so, I think I have to buy again. God, I'm ashamed of myself.

No, you don't have to buy it again. No one would ship it in it's dissolute form so it's safe to assume it's fine. You said that it sometimes get close to 40°C - I really don't think you have anything to worry about. If you're really that paranoid, keep it in a fridge.

 

[Westbren]

I live with my mom and my dog. So I worry about them, with me putting a potentially dangerous chemical at home.

 

[k75]

No, you don't have to buy it again. No one would ship it in it's dissolute form so it's safe to assume it's fine. You said that it sometimes get close to 40°C - I really don't think you have anything to worry about. If you're really that paranoid, keep it in a fridge.

No, don't store it in the fridge. There's moisture there, bad for your SN.

 

[Defenestrator]

I live with my mom and my dog. So I worry about them, with me putting a potentially dangerous chemical at home.

Well, I don't want to sound mean but you probably should have held off buying it until closer to the time you were planning on using it. Especially if you were concerned with storage.

 

[Westbren]

Well, I don't want to sound mean but you probably should have held off buying it until closer to the time you were planning on using it. Especially if you were concerned with storage.

It's all right. It was my fault. But I only knew that when I saw the warnings on the bottle.
So, is it okay to keep SN in my room, even if the climate is too hot?

 

[Defenestrator]

It's all right. It was my fault. But I only knew that when I saw the warnings on the bottle.
So, is it okay to keep SN in my room, even if the climate is too hot?

Yes, it's probably safe. It's decomposition temperature is about 330°C in air.

 

[Westbren]

Yes, it's probably safe. It's decomposition temperature is about 330°C in air.

Thank you. Knowing this really gave me relief.
I'm still scared. My other method to ctb is overdose with xanax, but that seems so uncertain.

 

[k75]

Thank you. Knowing this really gave me relief.
I'm still scared. My other method to ctb is overdose with xanax, but that seems so uncertain.

Are you mixing that with anything? If you're planning on overdosing on Xanax, don't bother. It's not going to do the job alone.

 

[Westbren]

Are you mixing that with anything? If you're planning on overdosing on Xanax, don't bother. It's not going to do the job alone.

Yes, with alcohol. Some metoclopramide. Maybe I fast, but I don't know if that helps or not. I have more than 120 bars of 2mg xanax. I know there are people who have already taken more than that and have not died. So I say that it is an uncertain method. May i take acetaminophen to increase the damage, but probably not.

 

[Defenestrator]

Yes, with alcohol. Some metoclopramide. Maybe I fast, but I don't know if that helps or not. I have more than 120 bars of 2mg xanax. I know there are people who have already taken more than that and have not died. So I say that it is an uncertain method. May i take acetaminophen to increase the damage, but probably not.

I wouldn't recommend this by the way - it'll take too long and you'll likely survive it with serious liver damage and pain.

 

[Westbren]

I wouldn't recommend this by the way - it'll take too long and you'll likely survive it with serious liver damage and pain.

I know. I also don't recommend this method. Lots of chance to go wrong and have damage. But if I don't get over the fear of keeping SN in my room, xanax will be the only option I have left. I know it's silly, even after I posted this thread. But as I said, I have generalized anxiety, and this disease is like having a voice dominating my mind and terrifying me all the time. Even if those fears are silly.

 

[BPD Barbie]

Maybe keep it under the bed or in the closet where there is no direct sunlight and it will be a little cooler.

 

[Westbren]

Maybe keep it under the bed or in the closet where there is no direct sunlight and it will be a little cooler.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[k75]

Maybe store it in a cooler? No ice or anything. It might shield it from the temp of the room a little.

 

[Westbren]

Maybe store it in a cooler? No ice or anything. It might shield it from the temp of the room a little.

I don't know if that would make difference, because I plan to keep this for months or a year, but who knows...

 

[k75]

Wow, that's a long time. How about a safe deposit box at a bank? They cost, but not much. It would be temperature controlled.

 

[xBrialesana]

It's all right. It was my fault. But I only knew that when I saw the warnings on the bottle.
So, is it okay to keep SN in my room, even if the climate is too hot?

I think the heat warning is more of a "don't leave this on your window in the heat or on your passenger seat" kind of deal. You should be fine (no I'm not knowledgeable or an expert).
I do agree that if you are worried about others getting into it (kind of you) that maybe you shouldn't have it on you until/if you are certain.

Also like everyone has said don't try to OD on Xanax, it's just a waste.

 

[Westbren]

Wow, that's a long time. How about a safe deposit box at a bank? They cost, but not much. It would be temperature controlled.

I really don't know. I live in a small town in a third world country. I don't know if banks here offer these services. Maybe I will buy SN again only when I use it. So the bottle would stay in my room for just a week. I just hope that SN is still available until the right time comes for me.

I think the heat warning is more of a "don't leave this on your window in the heat or on your passenger seat" kind of deal. You should be fine (no I'm not knowledgeable or an expert).
I do agree that if you are worried about others getting into it (kind of you) that maybe you shouldn't have it on you until/if you are certain.

Also like everyone has said don't try to OD on Xanax, it's just a waste.

Good idea. As for xanax, when options are few, beggars can't be choosers. I have weaker poisons hidden in my room. Maybe I'll mix it with xanax. Lots of chance of ending up as a vegetable or with severe brain damage. This method would only get rid of my paranoia of keeping SN in my room. It's a horrible method, but i'm feeling so desperate.

 

[Westbren]

I think I'll wait a few months. At most until November, but I don't think I can wait until then. Then I buy SN again. The day the SN arrives, I will leave the bottle in my room for one night. I can only be alone in the mornings. I'm going to mix the SN in 50ml of water. Make extra doses. So I'm going to leave my home for a brief moment (less than 10 minutes) to throw SN bottle away. After that I go home and drink the dose I made. I'll ctb with stat dose. Xanax seems too risky. Sorry for my bad english.

 

[k75]

Honestly, I'd just risk the SN. You cant really od on benzos. That's why you're being told it's pointless to try. Plus, pills also don't like being stored at high temps. So if you feel your Xanax is safe, your SN should also be safe.

I swear I'm not making fun of you right now, but maybe a better use for the Xanax would be to help you stop worrying about the SN.

 

[Quarky00]

My room some afternoons comes close to 40°C.

That should not be a worry. SN is transported in all climates without any heating/cooling.

SN is simply not reactive – only to moisture.

Read Storage FAQ . It provides links to several SDSs . Strong acid/bases, extreme heat (200C+), etc.

 

[jgm63]

In case it becomes harder to get later, I would consider reordering again now, and storing it....

If you can afford it, you could always order another one when you think you might be nearly ready to use it, but at least you will have the one you already ordered as a backup if you have problems with that.....