SN Philip Nitschke

[Aliali1992]

Hello...does anybody have links to videos of Philip Nitschke talking or discussing SN? Thanks in advance

 

[enjolras]

In the PPeH, there are brief technical videos and livestream records of conferences. Nevertheless, I don't feel the latter bring extra value to the text info.

A conference with a french "salts' specialist" was due to happen in Paris in april but was canceled due to Corona. Continue to look for Exit weekly podcasts and the summer meeting due this summer.

 

[IrRegularjoe]

I'm undecided if its actually peaceful. They used it for wild hogs. Thinking it was a humane way to get rid of them. But people treat animals like shit.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

His videos are on Vimeo.

I don't trust PN on SN

 

[IrRegularjoe]

His videos are on Vimeo.

I don't trust PN on SN

Whats PN
Got it. PN is Phillip

 

[enjolras]

Phillip Nitschke

It depends on your definition of peaceful. SN is not recognized with assisted-suicide procedures, while other methods than N are (other barbs, DDMP, DDMA, inert gases before). There must be a reason.

I agree that you won't get accurate details from PN about the behind the scenes of suicides' happenings. He keeps the descriptions short to the minimum, or an evasive number. After all, he's in the business to sell you something peaceful (as per the website and book maintained) The gloom is not the part to extend on (keep it sparky)

 

[Living sucks]

My idea of peaceful is go to sleep and you don't know what's happening to you.
I'm sorry but SN is NOT that. It might be more peaceful than some other ways, but anything that produces tachycardia, cyanosis, nausea, stomach burning, and possibly more even if mild isn't peaceful to me. I have tachycardia now just when I move so i know it's scary and uncomfortable.
But I still bought it bcuz I have nothing else.

 

[Aliali1992]

The reason for my question is this contradiction...i don't understand where he is currently on the issue?

 

[enjolras]

The closest to researchers are the candidates committing. You'll find more precise info about the variability of possible symptoms on this forum that by querying Exit. Donno about their forums cause it was reported as mostly inactive until the wake-up of the Corona with PN popping again to lit up the global presence.

About this article, is it fully informative or also hides a twisted war intent ? Did PN really comment publicly/openly about his disappointment in sales leading to a manipulative adaptation ? I'm not persuaded although ready to hear a confirmation.

If anything, it shows Exit is an information collector. Sometimes it means approximation for a long time, until fine-tuned, and again. That said, the more precisions would be given, the more it could lead to suspicions and critics as well as after-sales work. Just saying, there could be many reasons why the transmitted info is not better than it could. Many hypothesis but in the end, nobody is a mind reader since the concerned persons choose to stay quiet or shirk unfortunately.

As long as you don't choose N which is pretty bulletproof, you should put up own work at researching to make educated guesses on the methods' suitability matching your situation.

 

[Aliali1992]

The closest to researchers are the candidates committing. You'll find more precise info about the variability of possible symptoms on this forum that by querying Exit. Donno about their forums cause it was reported as mostly inactive until the wake-up of the Corona with PN popping again to lit up the global presence.

About this article, is it fully informative or also hides a twisted war intent ? Did PN really comment publicly/openly about his disappointment in sales leading to a manipulative adaptation ? I'm not persuaded although ready to hear a confirmation.

If anything, it shows Exit is an information collector. Sometimes it means approximation for a long time, until fine-tuned, and again. That said, the more precisions would be given, the more it could lead to suspicions and critics as well as after-sales work. Just saying, there could be many reasons why the transmitted info is not better than it could. Many hypothesis but in the end, nobody is a mind reader since the concerned persons choose to stay quiet or shirk unfortunately.

As long as you don't choose N which is pretty bulletproof, you should put up own work at researching to make educated guesses on the methods' suitability matching your situation.

I asked about videos because i actually wanna see if he actually said that but i think what's written above refer to some tweets like the one here that implies he does not support SN as a peaceful option...that was before when SN and AZ were advertised only through the dutch network...i researched SN a lot....most of my understanding of it come from reports here of people who post good bye and never report back (which can't be proven) and from people who report after a failed attemp (some say blacked out after a short time and others not- depends on the dosage, anti emetics..etc) and the most important factor was reports from pph that they witnessed 6 peaceful deaths using SN...but if they were so sure...why are they sending phones to people to video themselves live when they take it...i think where the pph and Nitschke stand on SN needs some clarity.

His videos are on Vimeo.

I don't trust PN on SN

Thanks

 

[enjolras]

Interesting. Don't remember if he talked about peacefulness clearly during the livestreams. Well, actually I think he mentioned a few symptoms, just not adding any drama or alert other than being descriptive. Overall, lately he usually sounds more positively approving than "hardly a ringing endorsement ...low scores". Other times, he talks about a "revolution" so encouraging.

On this forum, you can find one of the livestream that was ripped (I'm failing to retrieve the thread with the search engine, sorry). The 2 other ones (excluding the Sarco dedicated one) barely differ in content. Usually, it's repetitive info.

 

[Michael1127]

Phillip Nitschke

It depends on your definition of peaceful. SN is not recognized with assisted-suicide procedures, while other methods than N are (other barbs, DDMP, DDMA, inert gases before). There must be a reason.

I agree that you won't get accurate details from PN about the behind the scenes of suicides' happenings. He keeps the descriptions short to the minimum, or an evasive number. After all, he's in the business to sell you something peaceful (as per the website and book maintained) The gloom is not the part to extend on (keep it sparky)

I think it is also because the chance of vomiting is quite given ... Other then at N ...

 

[enjolras]

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It's the second one you'll find. The workshops 1, 2 and 4 have more or less a similar structure, reviewing quickly most methods, except the 4th one which also overviews the ReBreather

 

[Aliali1992]

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It's the second one you'll find. The workshops 1, 2 and 4 have more or less a similar structure, reviewing quickly most methods, except the 4th one which also overviews the ReBreather

Great!Thank you very much ;)