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Rohit

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I got reglan( meto) , antacid , paracetamol and going to get SN soon. But still a bit of dilemma if SN method is reliable or not because I have seen reports of people died through sodium nitrate instead of nitrite and some of them mentioned people survived even after methaemoglobinaemea reached over 92% and 95% in body . Here in India suicide is a crime and I don't want to get admitted by surviving. I have got no interruptions as I will be doing in hotel but still ... I am worried about it and getting thought of going for hanging sometimes. Please help me
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

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This probably isn't going to be a popular opinion here, but I think hanging has a lot of advantages over SN. It has a long time proven success rate with thousands of years of proof and basic physics behind it. If you can make yourself go unconscious(not asleep, but completely out) with the noose around your neck, it should be painless. Of course there are always things that can go wrong(like being discovered and revived and winding up with brain damage) and so I think careful planning is appropriate with any method. I'm not saying that you should hang yourself, or hurt yourself at all. I'm just giving my opinion about the reliability and potential pain involved.
 
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I got reglan( meto) , antacid , paracetamol and going to get SN soon. But still a bit of dilemma if SN method is reliable or not because I have seen reports of people died through sodium nitrate instead of nitrite and some of them mentioned people survived even after methaemoglobinaemea reached over 92% and 95% in body . Here in India suicide is a crime and I don't want to get admitted by surviving. I have got no interruptions as I will be doing in hotel but still ... I am worried about it and getting thought of going for hanging sometimes. Please help me
Suicide is decriminalised in India in 2016

 
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Rohit

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This probably isn't going to be a popular opinion here, but I think hanging has a lot of advantages over SN. It has a long time proven success rate with thousands of years of proof and basic physics behind it. If you can make yourself go unconscious(not asleep, but completely out) with the noose around your neck, it should be painless. Of course there are always things that can go wrong(like being discovered and revived and winding up with brain damage) and so I think careful planning is appropriate with any method. I'm not saying that you should hang yourself, or hurt yourself at all. I'm just giving my opinion about the reliability and potential pain involved.
Thanks for the response. I can manage to not get found because I am doing ctb in a hotel and I am very far from home and no possibility of them meeting me . All I want is reliability and I am not that clear about partial hanging thing because of various people posting their experiences of partial hanging which included many failures . That's why asking for suggestion.
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

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I've been trying to find some exact numbers for success rates, but haven't been able to. My understanding is that the main problem with partial hanging is overcoming the fear; it's easy to get back into a position that takes the weight off your neck if you're conscious to do it. But presuming that a person could overcome that fear and their only goal was to succeed, I'd think you could combine the methods. I was considering taking the SN with the noose around my neck yesterday
 
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I am thinking doing both to make sure I won't fail.
 
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Feb 23, 2019
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Personally, I think that hanging is the more straight forward option but I also think that it takes WAY more courage to do it. Drinking something is easy in comparison.

Both methods obviously can go wrong but my own belief is that you can control partial more. I'd feel more assured of success. With SN, I'd be concerned about quality of product and whether it'd actually work and not leave me alive but damaged. I dunno, I'd find it hard to trust a 'solution in a bottle' that in honesty I knew nothing about. As mentioned above, there's a time honoured simple suritry with hanging. But these are my concerns and I'm sure not shared.

Me, I'd choose partial over SN though I do admit the appeal of just drinking something.
 
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Aug 26, 2019
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It seems every other day members here ctb via SN while the hangers always report back that they're "doing something wrong." That's why I switched from hanging to SN. Not to mention you can just drink the SN and curl up on the couch or in a bed and pass out. With hanging you better have a strong anchor point that can hold your weight... one that other people don't have access to. The horror stories with hangers becoming vegies because they got saved while their brain was dying was enough to put me off altogether.
 
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It seems every other day members here ctb via SN while the hangers always report back that they're "doing something wrong." That's why I switched from hanging to SN. Not to mention you can just drink the SN and curl up on the couch or in a bed and pass out. With hanging you better have a strong anchor point that can hold your weight... one that other people don't have access to. The horror stories with hangers becoming vegies because they got saved while their brain was dying was enough to put me off altogether.
"It seems every other day members here ctb via SN while the hangers always report back that they're "doing something wrong." "
It's not exactly the same, the people who SN here go through a process of fasting, drugs and saying goodbye on here, and there are very few of them. People who hang can just find a rope and go, there isn't the same process to report(members here also know there is a lot of demand for case studies about SN and so have incentive to help out and contribute their experience with SN), so successful hangers would just disappear from the forum rather than necessarily having a goodbye thread.

"With hanging you better have a strong anchor point that can hold your weight... one that other people don't have access to."
This is why I'm planning to use compression instead, I can do it from the comfort of my chair and I don't need to worry about a rope or anchor breaking. The Five Last Acts talks about being able to use this method in a hospital or other confinement, and so there must not be the kind of thrashing around you do with hanging(probably because your wind pipe isn't cut off, just your arteries), which means a much lower chance of discovery. Being able to do it anywhere, instead of just locations with a sturdy enough anchor point also allows you to pick a secluded or easily barricaded place to prevent "rescue"

"The horror stories with hangers becoming vegies because they got saved while their brain was dying was enough to put me off altogether."
There is a massive number of people who have tried to hang themselves, and so even if it was 99% effective, there would be a ton of horror stories.

Just a few days ago, SN was my primary plan, but now I have concerns about whether there has been enough testing to know how painless and reliable it is on people.
 
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sala-samobójców.3

Suicide room
Nov 26, 2019
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I got reglan( meto) , antacid , paracetamol and going to get SN soon. But still a bit of dilemma if SN method is reliable or not because I have seen reports of people died through sodium nitrate instead of nitrite and some of them mentioned people survived even after methaemoglobinaemea reached over 92% and 95% in body . Here in India suicide is a crime and I don't want to get admitted by surviving. I have got no interruptions as I will be doing in hotel but still ... I am worried about it and getting thought of going for hanging sometimes. Please help me
I would hang myself, it's much faster, and you will only feel your neck break when you fall, but It Will be painless, i've tried sn and been revived and It is a shit, what you can Also do is to take sn and hang yourself, so that if one thing goes wrong, may be the other works
 
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BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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There are so many members on here that have successfully used SN and documented little discomfort. I don't understand what more reassurance you need. The ones that failed either vomited or were found. If you follow the regime and ensure you're not found, your going to die.
Hanging is only likely to work via full suspension and for it to be painless you need to research and understand the method.
Both are reliable and painless when executed correctly. I don't understand why people want to combine methods. Just do one, and do it well.
 
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Rohit

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I would hang myself, it's much faster, and you will only feel your neck break when you fall, but It Will be painless, i've tried sn and been revived and It is a shit, what you can Also do is to take sn and hang yourself, so that if one thing goes wrong, may be the other works
how much time you post injestion of SN , you were revived .
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

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Nov 25, 2019
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There are so many members on here that have successfully used SN and documented little discomfort. I don't understand what more reassurance you need. The ones that failed either vomited or were found. If you follow the regime and ensure you're not found, your going to die.
Hanging is only likely to work via full suspension and for it to be painless you need to research and understand the method.
Both are reliable and painless when executed correctly. I don't understand why people want to combine methods. Just do one, and do it well.
The statistics I've seen said that most people who successfully hang themselves are in contact with the ground(partial hanging). I'm sure that full suspension can be much more of a sure death, if you find a sturdy place to anchor yourself and jump from a high enough distance, I'd think that your chances of survival would be next to nothing, but I also believe that very few uninterrupted partial hangings result in permanent damage, but I could be uninformed. I'd think the worst likely thing to happen is that the fear of dying will overwhelm you and keep you from continuing to apply pressure to your neck until you pass out. But I suppose there are unreliable ways to try to partially hang yourself, I'm thinking of standing and bending your knees until there is enough pressure on your next to make you pass out, and then you'll naturally slump and put a lot more of your body weight onto your neck. I suppose if you tried to hang yourself sitting down you could convulse your way back onto a surface that could take the pressure off your neck, I'm not sure.
 
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BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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The statistics I've seen said that most people who successfully hang themselves are in contact with the ground(partial hanging). I'm sure that full suspension can be much more of a sure death, if you find a sturdy place to anchor yourself and jump from a high enough distance, I'd think that your chances of survival would be next to nothing, but I also believe that very few uninterrupted partial hangings result in permanent damage, but I could be uninformed. I'd think the worst likely thing to happen is that the fear of dying will overwhelm you and keep you from continuing to apply pressure to your neck until you pass out. But I suppose there are unreliable ways to try to partially hang yourself, I'm thinking of standing and bending your knees until there is enough pressure on your next to make you pass out, and then you'll naturally slump and put a lot more of your body weight onto your neck. I suppose if you tried to hang yourself sitting down you could convulse your way back onto a surface that could take the pressure off your neck, I'm not sure.
If you're gonna go with partial I'd advise you practice and experiment without tying off the rope. Look at anatomical diagrams of the neck. Also a lot of people fail because they ease into it. The mechanics are just like full suspension, you drop your weight quickly and hard!
 
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helpfulfriendonwout

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Nov 25, 2019
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If you're gonna go with partial I'd advise you practice and experiment without tying off the rope. Look at anatomical diagrams of the neck. Also a lot of people fail because they ease into it. The mechanics are just like full suspension, you drop your weight quickly and hard!
Quickly and hard? With the intention of breaking your neck, or just because you want to overcome the fear of death by trying to quickly pass out?
 
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sala-samobójców.3

Suicide room
Nov 26, 2019
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Quickly and hard? With the intention of breaking your neck, or just because you want to overcome the fear of death by trying to quickly pass out?
Quickly and hard, because if you do it slowly, your death will be slow and painful.
But if you do it fast and hard, like jumping, your neck will break and you'll stop feeling
 
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BPD_LE

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Aug 11, 2019
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Quickly and hard? With the intention of breaking your neck, or just because you want to overcome the fear of death by trying to quickly pass out?
No, not to break your neck! To constrict the caratid. I advise you look at the hanging megathread.
Quickly and hard, because if you do it slowly, your death will be slow and painful.
But if you do it fast and hard, like jumping, your neck will break and you'll stop feeling

Just politely inserting hanging megathread here instead of hilarious gif. @Stan will be so disappointed.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-to-hang-yourself.1183/
 
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Okay, I think I understand. The terms "quick" and "hard" are somewhat subjective. I was imagining that you were suggesting that the person uses much more force than necessary to block blood flow to the brain. Rather than doing it quick and hard, using a second ligature or tourniquet around the neck to make yourself pass out seems easiest and the least painful. You can be a lot more percise with the amount of pressure that you want to apply with those methods than you can by using your body weight. If the whole point of doing this "quick and hard" is just to make yourself pass out so that you don't feel the rest of the hanging, then I'd imagine the second ligature or other method may be less painful.
 
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sala-samobójców.3 how many minutes after you eating the SN you get found (rescured)? Had you much pain, where did it hurt mostly? Maybe you write back in spanish, thank you. We have not many reports of failed sn.
 

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