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Can you live a life worth dying for?
Sep 20, 2021
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So recently this pro-choice movement called the 'Coöperatie Laatste Wil' (CLW) has been getting a lot of attention in the dutch media. They advocate for this so-called 'substance X', which is likely either SA or SN, to be used for those who wish to CTB. Several media outlets claim that this stuff is relatively easy to obtain. However, I've been looking for a reliable supplier of SN for a bit now and I'm struggling.

So far, the only SN supplier (that delivers to private individuals) I've been able to find is the jungle site, which takes about a month to ship and honestly looks kinda sketchy, imo. So I'm wondering, is SN really that easy to obtain for someone living in the Netherlands? Am I missing something obvious here?
 
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Aug 21, 2020
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I am in no way, near of the Netherlands but I would tell you to be mindful of those sketchy websites. In some countries, the process is just to buy it, in others one needs to have a legal business permit that certifies it will be used with commercial purposes. Watch what options do you have, and if it seems hard, go for another method.

Best of luck.
 
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Notmeanttobehuman

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I live in the Netherlands and it wasn't that difficult to find. Got my SN shipped from the US relatively fast, not on the jungle site tough.
 
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I think you will probably find a way to get SN if you keep working at it. If you look at Stan's Guide on this website, there are other items that are generally used to keep from throwing up, but some are only available by prescription. Many people who attempt, and some are successful, try compromise items to try to make this method work since they can't get all of the prescription items, and based on this results on this site, this often works but sometimes does not. So getting the SN is really just the beginning for this method. Another thread discusses SN attempts- some went peacefully, and some didn't, and whatever materials are used to try to stop vomiting seem to play a key role in this. Some posts show what seem to be a peaceful exit, so that's the appeal for people who want to leave, but it does get complicated. If for example your attempt does not go peacefully and you are in a hotel room room the noise can alert a neighbor who calls an ambulance and then you get rescued, so if using SN, learning as much as you can from these posts can help your chances. It gets so complicated that I consider full suspension, but this has some complications as well.
 
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Seraphim

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Can you live a life worth dying for?
Sep 20, 2021
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I live in the Netherlands and it wasn't that difficult to find. Got my SN shipped from the US relatively fast, not on the jungle site tough.
Any way you could let me know where you got it from?
 
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Oct 23, 2021
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If you search for "Suicide powder may have killed dozens in the Netherlands, say prosecutors" on Google or better Startpage dot com, then you have the article from Euronews, which describes it very well, what happened and how they try to punish the seller like a serious criminal.
 
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HopelessFight

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Jan 31, 2021
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Substance X = SA. CLW is very dogmatic on this. They prefer SA over SN only because there is no antidote.

There are a few sources for SN within the EU left, but not in NL or Western Europe in general. No dealing with customs this way :)
 
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