SN benzos

[Prescotmunn]

Do you really need a lot of benzos to carry out this method. I'll have everything else but only 10-20mg valium. That's all that concerns me is that I will fail because I have no where near what is recommended for that.

 

[areyousafe??]

All you need is the SN.

 

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After reading around the forum about this, I have to say I don't understand why such a high dose of benzos is recommended. I think the idea is that you go unconscious as quickly as possible...but there's a potential problem: if you go unconscious "early" (before the SN would make you go unconscious) then there's a possibility you might vomit and not realize it because you're unconscious (from the benzos). Then you wouldn't be able to take a second or third drink, and then your attempt possibly fails.

Because the SN would make you go unconscious within 15-20 minutes, I personally plan to use benzos in a much smaller dose about an hour before SN just to keep me very relaxed but still alert enough to take another drink or two if needed. My understanding is that if the SN makes you go unconscious (and you've followed the protocol for fasting, limiting water, SN dose, etc), then you've made it to a point where it's very unlikely you'll survive unless someone finds you early enough.

 

[onmywaytothebusstop]

I think the idea behind it is partially to make sure you "fall asleep" as well as to supress your survival instinct as well as panic attacks.

Just like most people don't need 25mg or 3x20mg of SN to die, you probably don't need as much valium as is required.

I personally bought a research benzo bromazolam which was really easy to find as i don't want to fail another suicide attempt so anny failsafe i can dissable, i will. I'm sure some people prefer being sober and use no benzos at all.

After reading around the forum about this, I have to say I don't understand why such a high dose of benzos is recommended. I think the idea is that you go unconscious as quickly as possible...but there's a potential problem: if you go unconscious "early" (before the SN would make you go unconscious) then there's a possibility you might vomit and not realize it because you're unconscious (from the benzos). Then you wouldn't be able to take a second or third drink, and then your attempt possibly fails.

Because the SN would make you go unconscious within 15-20 minutes, I personally plan to use benzos in a much smaller dose about an hour before SN just to keep me very relaxed but still alert enough to take another drink or two if needed. My understanding is that if the SN makes you go unconscious (and you've followed the protocol for fasting, limiting water, SN dose, etc), then you've made it to a point where it's very unlikely you'll survive unless someone finds you early enough.

I've thought about this as well and im going for the pph method of 25g SN. It's recommended to take it in a somewhat upright sitting position. The pph method as far as i'm aware only recommends 1 drink of 25g so no need to take multiple drinks unless ofcourse you vomit right away.

I would do it unsuported so that the moment that i pass out, i would fall down to a laying position and if vommiting occurs, it's highly likely to suffocate in it.

 

[Prescotmunn]

So if you don't vomit a lot you don't need the second cup of it. Hard to judge if you vomit too much of it out. I don't want to fail. Hopefully this method doesn't have a high failure rate. Also 400mg propanol seems a lot. Was thinking taking half that amount

 

[Eudaimonic]

Benzos & Z-Drugs, Uses in SN Protocol (Guide)

Hey everyone! As a little follow up/piggyback of the amazing @opheliaoveragain's post on checking benzo onsets, here is a general guide about benzo & z-drugs. I'm highlighting a selection of popular benzodiazepines and Z-drugs, but there are plenty more out there. This information is meant for...

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I think the idea behind it is partially to make sure you "fall asleep" as well as to supress your survival instinct as well as panic attacks.

Just like most people don't need 25mg or 3x20mg of SN to die, you probably don't need as much valium as is required.

I personally bought a research benzo bromazolam which was really easy to find as i don't want to fail another suicide attempt so anny failsafe i can dissable, i will. I'm sure some people prefer being sober and use no benzos at all.

I've thought about this as well and im going for the pph method of 25g SN. It's recommended to take it in a somewhat upright sitting position. The pph method as far as i'm aware only recommends 1 drink of 25g so no need to take multiple drinks unless ofcourse you vomit right away.

I would do it unsuported so that the moment that i pass out, i would fall down to a laying position and if vommiting occurs, it's highly likely to suffocate in it.

Agree about the benzos. It probably will be a stressful time even without the SN side effects, so definitely would make sense to take a large dose of benzos to stay calm.

Yeah, to clarify about multiple drinks, I would drink another only if I vomited. Maybe even up to four drinks, just because I have 100mg and might as well make the best attempt I can. Hopefully just one is enough.

Good idea about passing out and falling back into a laying position. I've seen some recommendations to lay on your right side because your stomach will empty faster. But in that case you might not be as likely to suffocate if you vomit after passing out.

 

[Amarajoy]

After reading around the forum about this, I have to say I don't understand why such a high dose of benzos is recommended. I think the idea is that you go unconscious as quickly as possible...but there's a potential problem: if you go unconscious "early" (before the SN would make you go unconscious) then there's a possibility you might vomit and not realize it because you're unconscious (from the benzos). Then you wouldn't be able to take a second or third drink, and then your attempt possibly fails.

Because the SN would make you go unconscious within 15-20 minutes, I personally plan to use benzos in a much smaller dose about an hour before SN just to keep me very relaxed but still alert enough to take another drink or two if needed. My understanding is that if the SN makes you go unconscious (and you've followed the protocol for fasting, limiting water, SN dose, etc), then you've made it to a point where it's very unlikely you'll survive unless someone finds you early enough.

How much benzo would you take?

 

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How much benzo would you take?

I only have Klonopin right now, and I already take .5mg 2x daily (morning and evening). So the night I would CTB I would probably take 2-4mg about an hour before drinking SN. Klonopin takes a bit longer to start affecting you than something like Xanax. The exact amount would depend on how I was feeling at the time. If I was really stressed, probably the 4mg. If I was fairly calm, then more around the 2mg. I think those doses would help put me in a state of feeling mildly sedated but still able to think clearly enough to make sure I do things right. I've taken benzos regularly for a while so I know how they generally affect me.

What are you thinking for yourself?

 

[NitrogenAfternoon]

If I am able to get it, and this source checks out,, I am personally going to take 5MG of diazepam. I am not a user at all, so I will have no tolerance, and I am only going to use it as an added luxury to calm my nerves. It is not necessary otherwise. I am actually feeling way more calmer and peace with my decision. If i just vomit it all out and it doesn't work, so be it. If it works, then I have passed away. I am just at peace with no matter how it goes and it doesn't make me afraid anymore.