Reapentence

Reapentence

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Exsanguination is the loss of blood to a degree sufficient to cause death. Suicide via this is usually attributed to one of three main arteries: the carotid in the neck, the femoral in the leg or the radial in the wrist. This method is notoriously unreliable, however, this is most likely due to the large number of suicide 'gestures' common amongst self-harmers. I have never self-harmed but this method has always interested me and I would like to know more. Please don't comment about how there are better methods out there, and how this method is painful and unreliable. I am fully aware, but the wider choice of methods I have, the better. It will likely not be my final method, but I may use it in conjunction with other methods. Other people may find this useful also.

If you know any instructions for this method I would be grateful, including ways to reduce pain, tools used and suppressing survival instincts.
 
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I have heard people using the numbing gel/cream that can be used before getting a tattoo. Also hot water. That's my limited knowledge and don't know if what I write should be based on fact
 
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DrownedOctopus

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I mean if you can get your hands on medical supplies, you can drain yourself of blood without going through the pain of cutting yourself. Just the needles and tubes used for taking blood like when you donate would be sufficient enough. To make it more peaceful you could sedate yourself too.
Idk how you are with pain, but it's possible to do it that way.
Otherwise, if you want to put yourself through cutting your body try getting ahold of a numbing agent so you can cut deep enough.
 
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Robbyna

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Exsanguination is the loss of blood to a degree sufficient to cause death. Suicide via this is usually attributed to one of three main arteries: the carotid in the neck, the femoral in the leg or the radial in the wrist. This method is notoriously unreliable, however, this is most likely due to the large number of suicide 'gestures' common amongst self-harmers. I have never self-harmed but this method has always interested me and I would like to know more. Please don't comment about how there are better methods out there, and how this method is painful and unreliable. I am fully aware, but the wider choice of methods I have, the better. It will likely not be my final method, but I may use it in conjunction with other methods. Other people may find this useful also.

If you know any instructions for this method I would be grateful, including ways to reduce pain, tools used and suppressing survival instincts.
I tried this (radial) and I used an OTC numbing cream.
Maximum strength and it definitely lessened the pain. I know you don't want to hear (read) this, but I would advise against this as a method at all. To reach the arteries you need something very sharp and you need to be very precise or you will have to cut multiple times. I did this myself and bled profusely only to end up in the hospital needing blood transfusions and while I reached bone I still didn't even nick an artery. I've read that arteries in other places if the body are easier to reach and also more effective. I would advise against this but if you will try it I'd look into the other arteries of the body that are easier to succeed with.
 
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Reapentence

Reapentence

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I mean if you can get your hands on medical supplies, you can drain yourself of blood without going through the pain of cutting yourself. Just the needles and tubes used for taking blood like when you donate would be sufficient enough. To make it more peaceful you could sedate yourself too.
Idk how you are with pain, but it's possible to do it that way.
Otherwise, if you want to put yourself through cutting your body try getting ahold of a numbing agent so you can cut deep enough.

Good point, but I heard somewhere else there is logistical problems with this, e.g. blood clotting. Also I have a genuine fear of needles - once I had my blood tests done and I had a small seizure (I never had a seizure until that day) supposedly as a result of fear. :pfff:
 
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DrownedOctopus

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Good point, but I heard somewhere else there is logistical problems with this, e.g. blood clotting. Also I have a genuine fear of needles - once I had my blood tests done and I had a small seizure (I never had a seizure until that day) supposedly as a result of fear. :pfff:
Well blood clotting is easy to fix. Plavix is a really good blood thinner if you can get ahold of that
Or any other prescription blood thinner.
But I understand having a fear of needles, though I don't mind them.
That's a pretty terrible reaction though! I've never heard of that happening before
 
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chrijo

chrijo

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Feb 8, 2019
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I think doctors using lidocain and open the femoral artery in combination with vitamin K anticoagulants. In my opinion: You can't reach the carotid by yourself, it's to deep and cutting the neck is absolutely horrible. There's a lot of muscles and ligaments in the way :-)
 
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Deivis

Deivis

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Jul 23, 2018
235
I vouch for this method. Death by bleeding is probably the most studied subject - WW1, WW2, car accidents etc - millions of cases, they all add up.
I did it. For real, not for gesture. Cutting through your skin gives you less of sensation than a flu shot or wasp sting. Its nothing. Lookup on Google or Quora - "How does it feel to die from bleeding or blood loss". You faint slowly, feel cold, then you forget everything.

Had I done that in hot water and numbed myself down with some whiskey - I would not been writing this. First hand account.

But hot water is a must. Don't do it otherwise.
 
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Trulysorry

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I vouch for this method. Death by bleeding is probably the most studied subject - WW1, WW2, car accidents etc - millions of cases, they all add up.
I did it. For real, not for gesture. Cutting through your skin gives you less of sensation than a flu shot or wasp sting. Its nothing.

Had I done that in hot water and numbed myself down with some whiskey - I would not been writing this. First hand account.

But hot water is a must. Don't do it otherwise.

Where did you cut?
 
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Deivis

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Jul 23, 2018
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Where did you cut?

The wrists. I know it was dumb, but I didn't know back then, it was before google and wikipedia. Read in historical books that Greeks and Romans had been doing it. Of course, it clotted and I failed, but speaking of any sensations - it was nothing. You just get sleepy and a little bit cold (not much), everything turns out dreamlike, then I'm in intensive care under the drip. Thats it.
 
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Gray Wounds

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I've also tried cutting my radial artery but no matter how deep it is, I just bled but not so much bleeding because of my blood clotting. That's why I'm going for the rope now.
 
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Meretlein

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Feb 15, 2019
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Taking some benzos before you do it might help. There is this chemical called ethyl chloride that can numb your skin.

Still though, I don't think a lot of people have the stomach for this. My stomach tightens at the thought of this method.
 
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chrijo

chrijo

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You'll definitely need courage to do that.

Little story, maybe trigger:

I've seen a dead woman in a bathtub full of water, she cut her radial artery successful. It doesn't look as romantic as in the movies, not a bit. I've seen some dead people in my job but what this woman looked like was really really bad. She was sitting in her own coagulated blood with yellow/brown mixed water above. Her body was bloated over 1-2 days before she was found.
 
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You'll definitely need courage to do that.

Little story, maybe trigger:

I've seen a dead woman in a bathtub full of water, she cut her radial artery successful. It doesn't look as romantic as in the movies, not a bit. I've seen some dead people in my job but what this woman looked like was really really bad. She was sitting in her own coagulated blood with yellow/brown mixed water above. Her body was bloated over 1-2 days before she was found.

What was your job.. if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Anyone have any suggestions on what knife to use? I've tried to do it with a box cutter but I just couldn't cut deep enough. The knife bends too much.
 
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Reapentence

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I vouch for this method. Death by bleeding is probably the most studied subject - WW1, WW2, car accidents etc - millions of cases, they all add up.
I did it. For real, not for gesture. Cutting through your skin gives you less of sensation than a flu shot or wasp sting. Its nothing. Lookup on Google or Quora - "How does it feel to die from bleeding or blood loss". You faint slowly, feel cold, then you forget everything.

Had I done that in hot water and numbed myself down with some whiskey - I would not been writing this. First hand account.

But hot water is a must. Don't do it otherwise.

I don't understand how/why you use hot water. Should you do in it a bathtub or something? Is it to make the arteries come closer to the surface of the skin?
 
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Mr. Hang Man

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I've never tried this method but it sounds incredibly painful and slow, seems like you need to be very precise in order to do it correctly.
 
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Bedlamb

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Mar 1, 2019
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I've tried this method on impulse. It was a stupid spur of the moment kind of thing, but in my expierence It was not peaceful at all. At the start of my hypovolemic shock, I began to sweat and shiver uncontrollably. I vomited due to the extreme nausea, and could not even vomit away from the bathtub. I was too weak to stand, and kept dipping in and out of consciousness. Wish I would have died then but unfortunately I was found
 
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Need-a-Place

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Feb 10, 2019
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I've tried this method on impulse. It was a stupid spur of the moment kind of thing, but in my expierence It was not peaceful at all. At the start of my hypovolemic shock, I began to sweat and shiver uncontrollably. I vomited due to the extreme nausea, and could not even vomit away from the bathtub. I was too weak to stand, and kept dipping in and out of consciousness. Wish I would have died then but unfortunately I was found

I 2nd this. Extreme nausea and vomiting. Could not stand or even speak. Cops wanted me to scoot out from the bathroom. I was too weak to scoot even an inch back. I just tried to push off the cops foot (he instructed) and nothing happened. I ended up just laying all sprawled out too weak to move a finger or open my eyes.

Later I woke up in trauma er, they were cutting my clothes off of me. My tits were totally hanging out while male doctors were talking to me. I didn't even have the strength to cover up my boobs. I just lay there while people talked at me. I still couldn't open my eyes, so I didn't actually see anything. Just sensations and sounds. I was moaning and grunting in response to questions because I still couldn't speak.

It is very possible to die this way, but it is also painful. The lactic acid that built up in my body from lack of blood (and thus lack of oxygen) was very painful. It felt like having an all over body ache, like everything hurt and was uncomfortable, but there was no way to relieve the pain. Also I could not get a full breathe, I had tachypnea and it felt like long, slow suffocation. Just trying and trying and trying to desperately breathe, without actually getting any oxygen to my organs because the blood wasn't there.
 
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deshper

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I have to say I have done a lot of research on this and it remains, at least at this point, my chosen method. The carotid artery in your neck, from what I read, is quite literally like an exit button. It's extremely rare to survive from if something happens to those arteries and it's why partial hanging or the night night method works, because you're constricting those arteries blood flow. My last suicide attempt, I had ordered medical scalpels, got alcohol (to numb pain) and a hotel room and went to work. I felt no pain, maybe because of the adrenaline. But I struggled to find the artery itself no matter how deep I had cut my neck, and the police found me unfortunately. The anatomy of your neck is a lot more complicated in person I realize now, and I think I didn't realize the artery itself had a sheath over it at the time, looking back I remember seeing what looked like that but not realizing it was what it was. I would never say this method is for everyone, it takes a lot to do, but I did it to myself once and I believe I can do it again, with more time and research. I have a permanent scar on my neck that is a constant reminder.

I'm not too sure about slitting the wrists or other arteries as i'm not too sure about those methods, but I really believe the carotid arteries if messed with, are very reliably fatal. I think if they're cut, you pass out within seconds. (Correct me if i'm wrong) And i'm really just stating all this from a lot of research and experience, I could be wrong but I genuinely feel that the carotid arteries are very fatal.
 
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happygolucky
Feb 10, 2019
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I have to say I have done a lot of research on this and it remains, at least at this point, my chosen method. The carotid artery in your neck, from what I read, is quite literally like an exit button. It's extremely rare to survive from if something happens to those arteries and it's why partial hanging or the night night method works, because you're constricting those arteries blood flow. My last suicide attempt, I had ordered medical scalpels, got alcohol (to numb pain) and a hotel room and went to work. I felt no pain, maybe because of the adrenaline. But I struggled to find the artery itself no matter how deep I had cut my neck, and the police found me unfortunately. The anatomy of your neck is a lot more complicated in person I realize now, and I think I didn't realize the artery itself had a sheath over it at the time, looking back I remember seeing what looked like that but not realizing it was what it was. I would never say this method is for everyone, it takes a lot to do, but I did it to myself once and I believe I can do it again, with more time and research. I have a permanent scar on my neck that is a constant reminder.

I'm not too sure about slitting the wrists or other arteries as i'm not too sure about those methods, but I really believe the carotid arteries if messed with, are very reliably fatal. I think if they're cut, you pass out within seconds. (Correct me if i'm wrong) And i'm really just stating all this from a lot of research and experience, I could be wrong but I genuinely feel that the carotid arteries are very fatal.

I think it's definitely doable if you're willing to endure the neck slicing and digging to find the sweet spot, or willing to stab yourself in the neck repeatedly. I could not do that to myself, definitely not the method for me.

Do you have any idea how deep you got? The only thing I can think of is, a lot of times people underestimate just how deep they need to go. I did a quick neck sliced open google image search and yikes some of those gashes are deeeeep and the person didn't die cos they missed the artery.
 
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Jean Améry

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That seems like an excessively painful and gory method. Of course to each their own.

If one were to opt for exsanguination the method suggested by DrownedOctopus seems the way to go. In any case strong painkillers would be needed to avoid excessive, unbearable pain. I'd think the goal of suicide would be to end pain, not cause much more of it in the process.

I once held a knife to my throat in a fit of despair. I'm glad I didn't do it as it would have been extremely painful and it might have taken a long time to bleed out. Plus my mother would have found me in an absolutely gory scene. I don't owe it to her to stay alive but I didn't and don't want to plague her with nightmares either.
 
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you can drain yourself of blood without going through the pain of cutting yourself. Just the needles and tubes used for taking blood like when you donate would be sufficient enough.

Not really , that could never work .
cause there is something most of us are not familiar with , it's called : "blood clots"

Our blood clots or thickens to clog its way out and prevent further blood loss .

if you draw some blood out with a syringe .
the blood will clot in the syringe in nearly a minute or so .

I have seen it . I couldn't even push the blood out of that syringe , it has turned into a solid stiff paste .
that's how I first learned about blood clots .

when donating blood in a health center , they add some chemicals to the blood to keep it in the liquid form .

So , blood clots in the needle as well , that's why they have to flush cannulas with saline and then cover it close really fast , before blood finds its way back to the needle and clog it .
 
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deshper

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I think it's definitely doable if you're willing to endure the neck slicing and digging to find the sweet spot, or willing to stab yourself in the neck repeatedly. I could not do that to myself, definitely not the method for me.

Do you have any idea how deep you got? The only thing I can think of is, a lot of times people underestimate just how deep they need to go. I did a quick neck sliced open google image search and yikes some of those gashes are deeeeep and the person didn't die cos they missed the artery.

Well like you said I drew a line, then I sliced my neck over and over until I got deep enough, kind of like you see in surgery where they make the initial cut and continue to cut until they get deep enough. I have many pictures saved of surgical neck cuts/carotid artery surgeries but it's very different in person. I remember seeing a faint blue-ish line in my neck that may have been the jugular but I discounted the sheath that covers the carotid artery (the sheath makes it extremely difficult to find, even in pictures it makes the artery look almost invisible because the artery is already red so it sorta blends in and the sheath makes it even more difficult whereas the jugular is blue and easier to see even with). I did not have as much time as I thought I would have due to the police knocking down my door. I know I was deep enough because at the end of it it didn't look like a cut, but more like a large gaping hole in my neck. I think our anatomy is very complicated which is why I need to do a lot more research. I wish I had taken pictures of the wound when I attempted so I could study it more now to be more successful the next time. My plan is to locate the artery and completely sever it, to minimize any chance of surviving. (By the way I'm sorry I know I sound like a really crazy person)
 
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Why did the police arrive?

My sister felt off about how I left the house and called my parents who came home and they called the police (my family knew about my problems so I guess they figured). I suspected that would happen but figured they would not be able to track me because my phone was not with me. My parents gave the police my license plate numbers and they found my car in the parking lot of the motel unfortunately. I really didn't expect it and in hindsight I would have taken a bus. I realize how stupid it was now just didn't realize at the time they could've tracked me down like that or that my parents even remembered my license plate numbers.
 

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