Should i feel guilty for accidently "triggering" people?

[blvck]

Someone i know died last year of co2 poisoning. Someone was saying its the police's fault for getting there late (they got there 2 hours after he died). All I said was that with this method, your brain can only survive without oxygen for 10-12 minutes and that if they had gotten there even a litte later than that and saved him, he could have ended up a vegetable. This must have made them mad because they cussed me out.

Suicide is so taboo to others, but I guess when you ARE suicidal and think about it all the time, it's not such a morbid topic. Sorry, didn't realize I triggered you just by stating scientific facts...

 

[Deleted member 4040]

DED > vegetable

 

[Dead_Inside]

It's hard for people to talk about killing them themselves/suicide if they don't have those real feelings . It's like us here on this forum trying to talking about how awesome our lives are and how happy we are ....
plus most non suicidal people assume we are all crying for help.... I think it must be a defense mechanism to keep their psyche safe from us ...

 

[GeorgeEastman]

This must have made them mad because they cussed me out.

They're just mad someone else escaped the hell they're still stuck in.

 

[johnny]

It's hard for people to talk about killing them themselves/suicide if they don't have those real feelings . It's like us here on this forum trying to talking about how awesome our lives are and how happy we are ....
plus most non suicidal people assume we are all crying for help.... I think it must be a defense mechanism to keep their psyche safe from us ...

Yea....most normal people have no idea what goes on inside the minds of people like us. They can't imagine life being so bad, painful or whatever that someone would actually want to die

 

[blvck]

It's hard for people to talk about killing them themselves/suicide if they don't have those real feelings . It's like us here on this forum trying to talking about how awesome our lives are and how happy we are ....
plus most non suicidal people assume we are all crying for help.... I think it must be a defense mechanism to keep their psyche safe from us ...

i think so too. i wasnt trying to disrespect his memory, but was just stating facts.. they hold onto the thought that this was the police fault, but unless someone was in the room with him and noticed he hadnt come out of the bathroom for 10min, he couldnt have been saved in 2 hours ....

i mean its a depressing thought, but to me it just ...it is what it is...

 

[Dead_Inside]

We just hear about things like that and ask a bunch of questions.... where did he get his supplies? How did he do it? Blah blah blah .... for them it's impossible to understand.
He won the lottery we are all trying for- they would ask too if it was some secret to living forever this guy had managed.
But I understand. And shit you didn't mean anything by it. Honestly I think our thankfullness that a person who could have been anyone of us, was allowed enough time to die can't really come across correctly.
I am jealous and happy for him- glad he didn't end up a veggie and glad he didn't have to fail this time.

 

[Mr2005]

It sounds like they needed someone to blame and without that they don't know what to do with themselves

 

[Kingkelly]

Yea....most normal people have no idea what goes on inside the minds of people like us. They can't imagine life being so bad, painful or whatever that someone would actually want to die

So true!

 

[blvck]

Thanks everyone :)

 

[Whatshername]

This is why I never mention suicide, not even to my shrink. Some people around me know I'm depressed, and they have a hard time putting their head around it as it is, calling me a crybaby. Those not suffering don't get it. If I talked about my suicidal thoughts ... I don't even know what they would put me through.

 

[Kyrok]

The risk is "intervention." Who can you trust? They'll either dismiss it as not serious or think they're doing you a favor by forcing "help" on you.

As for anyone who may be triggered and whines about it, they're just weak.

 

[Bread]

This is something I commonly encounter as well. Subjects such as death, depression, and suicide are so normal to me that I'm completely desensitized to them. I sometimes forget this and say something that shocks my parents or therapists, but in the end it doesn't matter as they never take me seriously. As someone else already said, I think they'd rather protect themselves and continue to believe that I'm merely seeking attention.

 

[Jupiter]

This reminds me of the mother of Lucas Taylor who got hold of Halatal in Peru and killed himself in Germany. His mother publicly blamed Exit and Dr. N for giving her son tips to commit suicide.
I do understand that grieving people want to blame someone in order to release their anger because they feel helpless. But that's not the the right way, in my opinion. I agree with you all that instead people should develop an understanding of how desperate some of us can feel to make a final move.

 

[Vegrau]

No need to feel guilty. Youre looking at things logically.

 

[Vegrau]

This reminds me of the mother of Lucas Taylor who got hold of Halatal in Peru and killed himself in Germany. His mother publicly blamed Exit and Dr. N for giving her son tips to commit suicide.
I do understand that grieving people want to blame someone in order to release their anger because they feel helpless. But that's not the the right way, in my opinion. I agree with you all that instead people should develop an understanding of how desperate some of us can feel to make a final move.

They should just blame themselves if that is the case. Or they can be glad that the person is finally free. It hurt... I know. But The person do not belong to you. You cannot force the person to stay just for you. While you ignoring that person's trouble and pain. It's not realistic nor logical. You have to think about what that person want as well. We must not be so selfish to think only of ourselves and what we want...

 

[Xerxes]

Suicide topics and methods are so hard to talk about openly to the general public unless you're talking at a closed door meeting with medical professionals. What you said was realistic, and they had an overreaction. Sad that they only see things the way they want to and not be open to other thoughts.

 

[Pegasus]

Pro-lifers get triggered cuz you need to say whatever fits with their blinkered view of the world.

 

[weedoge]

Pro-lifers get triggered cuz you need to say whatever fits with their blinkered view of the world.

I would like to reflect such a statement and say that pro-choicers also get triggered if you say something that doesn't fit with their view of the world. Anyone with a strong emotional stake in their opinions and views seems to have a similar reaction, most people with strong opinions on suicide are strongly motivated by emotions and it's hard to get past that.

 

[TAW122]

I don't think you should feel guilty. In fact, most people are irrational when it comes to accepting death as a natural part of life, it completes the cycle. Furthermore, all the stigma is due to religious values from time and time as well as society's obsessive fetish with 'life is always good' so they sweep any meaningful, rational discuss about death, let alone suicide.

 

[NotWorthLiving]

Not your fault they were triggered. How were you supposed to know

 

[stargazer]

Yea....most normal people have no idea what goes on inside the minds of people like us. They can't imagine life being so bad, painful or whatever that someone would actually want to die

People can be so cruel.

 

[wxtyubidi7y]

Yeah I blurt out facts about suicide methods and success rates occasionally and it certainly makes people uneasy.

 

[Buddyluv19]

People can be triggered by anything around the subject of death in general. I was at my great aunt's wake a few years ago and said, "I'm sorry for your loss" to her daughter. Unbenounced to me, her daughter was pissed at her for being an alcoholic and looked at me like I'd just pissed on her shoe!