Discussion Senario: If assisted suicide was offered legally to anyone that requested it

[Jellyfish42]

The only requirement is you must be the age of majority (18+) within your region.

Do you think quality of life would improve for those that continue to live if assisted suicide was an available option for anyone that requested. Could this help the world with overpopulation, unemployment, etc?

It's a pretty openended scenario, curious to hear some of your guys thoughts if this was our reality

 

[Sadman]

Count me in if this was an option
overpopulation may not be cured
neither may unemployment.
Ironically health services may benefit from less strain.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I think it would be a great benefit in many different areas, including those two which you mentioned. I am dreaming for this to happen.

 

[softfuzzyman]

I think about this a lot, like if 100% guaranteed pain free legal assisted suicide was offered up to anyone who wants it... I'm not sure. I think there would be a lot of anti-choice pushback and they'd probably actually resort to the same efforts that anti-choice people who do stuff at abortion clinics do... i.e. instead of helping and being sympathetic to someone who's in a bad situation and trying to help them find "better" (in their eyes) alternatives and working to make it so that people never arrive in that situation in the first plqce because they had adequate resources and support and understanding along the way, which would be the good way to go about it, they'd just scream "you can't do it because you just can't" and sit outside of the clinics and shame and jeer at people going in and hand out fearmongering shit. Which is pretty much how anti-suicide crowds operate now anyway no real resources or support, just shaming and guilting and fearmongering and broken record sayings and instead of working towards actually making things better for people in that situation, just forcing them to not do it and just suffer through life.

 

[DyingAlf]

I have no clue but I also wouldn't care - I'd be assisted outta here ASAP.

 

[canihavepeaceforonce]

I'll be first in line, if this ever happened.

 

[rt1989526]

Id already be deceased if this was available.

You'd think it would be, considering how everyone believes the world is overpopulated and theres a good chunk of us that doesnt even want to be here

 

[BPD Barbie]

My only concern with this is how it could potentially lead to people being manipulated into using it. Otherwise I would be all for it, I just think it would need some criteria and such.

 

[Jellyfish42]

My only concern with this is how it could potentially lead to people being manipulated into using it. Otherwise I would be all for it, I just think it would need some criteria and such.

Can you elaborate on this? How can someone be manipulated into assisted suicide?

 

[BPD Barbie]

Can you elaborate on this? How can someone be manipulated into assisted suicide?

The same way people can be manipulated into doing anything. Threats made against family members, exposing messages or some dark secret etc.

 

[Nymph]

I wish this would be possible but I know it never will because then there wouldn't be enough working people and then all the people in the government would actually have to start doing something.
Besides that tho I do it think it would benefit the world, I mean less people means less damage to Mother Nature. Of course there would be people who could have been helped and did it from impulse but the majority has probably been feeling suicidal since puberty. I just wish I could get N I mean cmon I hate this fucking place

 

[Busoccupant]

Can you elaborate on this? How can someone be manipulated into assisted suicide?

Old people that feel like a big nuisance to their relatives.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

I don't know whether that would have a direct impact on quality of life in general.

But for all those who are concerned with the thought of ctb, it would be an incredible blessing if there was a clean opportunity to get out.

In my opinion, a minimum waiting time between registration and the ctb date would be sufficient to protect against affect ctb. The actual reason must not be taken as a criterion.

I am 100% sure that there will be in the future. Simply because at some point it will be necessary for the trains to be able to keep to their schedule.

In the future, after a certain age, life for the majority of people will only be an undignified existence in poverty that many do not want to experience and will therefore end it prematurely

Incidentally, I did a legally legal suicide accompaniment this week. Will also create a thread and share the experience with the method

 

[anxivoid]

The only requirement is you must be the age of majority (18+) within your region.

Do you think quality of life would improve for those that continue to live if assisted suicide was an available option for anyone that requested. Could this help the world with overpopulation, unemployment, etc?

It's a pretty openended scenario, curious to hear some of your guys thoughts if this was our reality

A very necessary thing for this world. And yeah it will help to solve many problems.

 

[almost_dead]

The only requirement is you must be the age of majority (18+) within your region.

Do you think quality of life would improve for those that continue to live if assisted suicide was an available option for anyone that requested. Could this help the world with overpopulation, unemployment, etc?

It's a pretty openended scenario, curious to hear some of your guys thoughts if this was our reality

Yeah , I think ppl would be less stressed when suicide is an easy and accessible option .

 

[TAW122]

As for this scenario, I think there will be less impulsive (and perhaps), less violent methods of suicide because people know that they have a way out. For some people, it may even motivate them to try other thins to recover or get better because they know that no matter what, death is always one process away and can be chosen at any given time.

As for overpopulation, it's hard to say as there are other variables (not listed in this scenario, and other things at play too). The same thing with unemployment as I think those things are still going to be problems throughout human history, I simply don't think unemployment (let alone gainful employment) will ever be at 0.0%. This is simply because there aren't enough jobs for every single human being alive and also considering the minute part of the population who voluntarily refuse to work or seek employment.

With regards to quality of life, I believe that for some, it may improve (if they actually have resources to improve life), and certainly, there would be stress on mental health services as the people who wish to die, after careful deliberation, request assisted suicide and go through with it. This would free up a lot of resources in the mental health services to be used for the people who actually WANT to recover, versus those who are forced help (forced intervention, court-ordered, or pressured into by their peers).

 

[LenkaX]

This world would have been much better place, because people who don't want to live would go to euthanasia ASAP.

 

[Blueman]

It's something that should be given consideration.
Especially after what coronavirus is doing to the world economy we are going to be in a situation with millions of people and often older people like me unemployed and headed for pensioner poverty.
I think this would improve quality of life knowing there was a peaceful orderly way out rather than having thoughts of a violent lonely death from usual suicide methods.
It's also something that could be discussed rationally with friends and family

 

[Bauhaus]

I doubt it would do anything for overpopulation: just look at the 20th century where we had 2 major wars and also the Spanish flu and yet the population exploded after WW2. I think the population at the beginning of the 20th century was only 2.5 billion.

 

[AlreadyGone]

How much would it cost? I would be for it if I can afford it.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

There've been some really good ideas so far!

I think the idea about having to ensure that people weren't manipulated into doing it is very fair, but also wrought with complications. You would need to have a system to ensure that it was the person's true desire, which means there would need to be some sort of objective rubric used - both designed by other humans and assessed by other humans. To me, that muddies the waters. It would be nice to flesh this idea out a bit more. How could it feasibly be done without human bias playing a role in determining the validity of each situation.

I also really like the idea of a waiting period. It would prevent impulsive suicides. How long should that waiting period be, though? 90 days? 6 months? 1 year?

This does have me thinking about people who might opt for suicide instead of prison. Would it be seen as them trying to escape their punishment, or would it be viewed as their choice to remove themselves from society? I suppose it depends on your personal view of the value of life.

With regards to overpopulation, while it's true that we did see a major population boom even after the war, that's because there was a renewed hope for life and for the future. Soldiers came back from war and were excited to start families. The biggest population booms in recent years have been in India, China, and regions of Africa. These seem to be mostly cultural. I'm not sure the suicide option would help with overpopulation, but I think it would have a major impact on caring for older populations.

 

[DeadButDreaming]

I read somewhere that 4.5% of the Dutch population dies from euthanasia. It must save taxpayers a decent sum.

 

[alexit]

The only requirement is you must be the age of majority (18+) within your region.

Do you think quality of life would improve for those that continue to live if assisted suicide was an available option for anyone that requested. Could this help the world with overpopulation, unemployment, etc?

It's a pretty openended scenario, curious to hear some of your guys thoughts if this was our reality

I don't see it as a solution to any problem other than the needed recognition of the human right that a person has the right to die. And it really shouldn't be a solution to anything but that. I abhor people being forced against their will to live or die.