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This is a really big forum, and I've been reading a lot of threads using the search function, but I still have some questions that I hope some of you can help me with (I live in Europe):

I've bought a bottle of S 100mg capsules, but how many capsules do I need to dissolve in liquid? I know the general recommendation is 36mg pr. kg, but I'm horrible at math tbh *sigh*

And I know I need to take antiemetics prior, but I'm confused about which ones will do - will an OTC antihistamine like benadryl do it?
 
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If you want to do it like those who go with N from A you would need 126 capsules.

Edit: I don't know the potency of Secobarbital. But if it's the same like Pentobarbital then 126 is correct.
 
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This is a really big forum, and I've been reading a lot of threads using the search function, but I still have some questions that I hope some of you can help me with (I live in Europe):

I've bought a bottle of S 100mg capsules, but how many capsules do I need to dissolve in liquid? I know the general recommendation is 36mg pr. kg, but I'm horrible at math tbh *sigh*

And I know I need to take antiemetics prior, but I'm confused about which ones will do - will an OTC antihistamine like benadryl do it?
Where did you get the secobarbital?
 
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Are you sure it's real ?
 
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Donewith_

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This is a really big forum, and I've been reading a lot of threads using the search function, but I still have some questions that I hope some of you can help me with (I live in Europe):

I've bought a bottle of S 100mg capsules, but how many capsules do I need to dissolve in liquid? I know the general recommendation is 36mg pr. kg, but I'm horrible at math tbh *sigh*

And I know I need to take antiemetics prior, but I'm confused about which ones will do - will an OTC antihistamine like benadryl do it?

you mean secobarbital sodium? is it still available?
 
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I read that secobarbital is the most used drug for euthanasia in the state of Oregon. They are both short acting barbiturates.
 
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I've bought a bottle of S 100mg capsules, but how many capsules do I need to dissolve in liquid? I know the general recommendation is 36mg pr. kg, but I'm horrible at math tbh *sigh*

And I know I need to take antiemetics prior, but I'm confused about which ones will do - will an OTC antihistamine like benadryl do it?

Example for 75kg bodyweight:

If the recommendation is correct (i dont know) - 36mg x 75kg : 100 = 27 capsules

In your case i would use an exit-bag because of short acting.

For antiemetic, it is always good to combine antihistamine and dopamin antagonists like metoclopramid in normal dosage. Please note - thats not a guarantee but the best you can do.
 
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Example for 75kg bodyweight:

If the recommendation is correct (i dont know) - 36mg x 75kg : 100 = 27 capsules

In your case i would use an exit-bag because of short acting.

For antiemetic, it is always good to combine antihistamine and dopamin antagonists like metoclopramid in normal dosage. Please note - thats not a guarantee but the best you can do.

Good math but where do you get the 36mg per kg? Please share the reference.
 
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Donewith_

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I was lucky enough to purchase it.

Assuming what you have got is seconal(secobarbital sodium), i have heard barbiturates are not getting manufactured anymore..isn't it true? from where did you get it if i may ask?
 
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Assuming what you have got is seconal(secobarbital sodium), i have heard barbiturates are not getting manufactured anymore..isn't it true? from where did you get it if i may ask?

Like legally or illegally? I think both legal and illegal manufacturing has gone down but you can still get them.
 
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Like legally or illegally? I think both legal and illegal manufacturing has gone down but you can still get them.

i mean legally. there were available in the market in 2013 , i took them once, just 2 pills.
how can you get them now?
 
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i mean legally. there were available in the market in 2013 , i took them once, just 2 pills.
how can you get them now?

I don't know how to get them legally but you can go to the resource thread on here for the illegal options. It has the 2018 October version of the Peaceful Pill Handbook. Chapter 19 gives information on obtaining pentobarbital/nembutal, there is a protonmail account of a supplier in Mexico. Originally it was thought that there were two Mexican suppliers but the the Domingo email has been found to be a scam. From what I have heard on here the Alejandro email is the only real one.
 
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I don't know how to get them legally but you can go to the resource thread on here for the illegal options. It has the 2018 October version of the Peaceful Pill Handbook. Chapter 19 gives information on obtaining pentobarbital/nembutal, there is a protonmail account of a supplier in Mexico. Originally it was thought that there were two Mexican suppliers but the the Domingo email has been found to be a scam. From what I have heard on here the Alejandro email is the only real one.

i know that A supplies N, he supplies seconal too..? idk that.
 
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i know that A supplies N, he supplies seconal too..? idk that.

No I meant that he just supplies N. Sorry for the confusion. From what I have read N and Seconal have very similar strength. In Oregon euthanasia patients are given the same dosage of each drug.
 
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Register, throw the bait and wait for PM's...clever :))
There is no Seconal manufactured in Europe. At least not in capsule/tablet form. Same goes for Nembutal.
The secobarbital manufacturing in North America is so low and so expensive that its almost impossible to divert it from the legitimate use. Even the right to die campaigners are starting to educate patients on alternative cocktails.
Regarding the bottle, its very easy to fake labels.
 
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Register, throw the bait and wait for PM's...clever :))
There is no Seconal manufactured in Europe. At least not in capsule/tablet form. Same goes for Nembutal.
The secobarbital manufacturing in North America is so low and so expensive that its almost impossible to divert it from the legitimate use. Even the right to die campaigners are starting to educate patients on alternative cocktails.
Regarding the bottle, its very easy to fake labels.
Imagine making elaborate preparations - wills, notes, byes - taking N or seconal cocktail. Only to wake up with a severe hangover
 
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lennnox

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Good math but where do you get the 36mg per kg? Please share the reference.
I don't remember where I originally read it, but I just remember "LD50 for humans is 36mg/kg body weight".
 
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lennnox

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@everyone: I bought my S in North America because it's next to impossible to get it in Europe.
 
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intr0naut

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In US a lethal dose (100 capsules@10mg each = 10g) of Seconal is between $3000 and $5000. It's so scarce and so controlled that a missing bottle would definitely be noticed so i doubt a pharmacist would risk his career to sell a bottle of Seconal on dark market.
Most likely it's a scam.
 
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