Scientific discovery about suicidal people

[Yog Sothoth]

Hello,
A little while ago I have heard about some young genius girl who figured out something common in the biologie of suicidal people.
I wanted to ask here if someone does know about it because I was not able to find it back (because it is hard to find anything about suicide :p)
And I am open to any kind of other scientifical article on the matter so feel free to share your intelligence! c:

 

[LoiteringClouds]

Hello,

Natasha Kulviwat?

A 16-year-old pocketed $50,000 for her award-winning discovery in the brains of people who died by suicide

Natasha Kulviwat is not your ordinary junior in high school. She's been analyzing human brains for the last year, and the research won her $50,000.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Tobacco]

Hello,

Natasha Kulviwat?

A 16-year-old pocketed $50,000 for her award-winning discovery in the brains of people who died by suicide

Natasha Kulviwat is not your ordinary junior in high school. She's been analyzing human brains for the last year, and the research won her $50,000.

www.businessinsider.com

This was an interesting read but still, it even says in the article. This can be correlation and not causation.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Hello,

Natasha Kulviwat?

A 16-year-old pocketed $50,000 for her award-winning discovery in the brains of people who died by suicide

Natasha Kulviwat is not your ordinary junior in high school. She's been analyzing human brains for the last year, and the research won her $50,000.

www.businessinsider.com

Yes!! That's what I was looking for, thank you so much!!

 

[Mistiie]

Hello,

Natasha Kulviwat?

A 16-year-old pocketed $50,000 for her award-winning discovery in the brains of people who died by suicide

Natasha Kulviwat is not your ordinary junior in high school. She's been analyzing human brains for the last year, and the research won her $50,000.

www.businessinsider.com

This article is insanely interesting. I wonder if, by extension, this means that suicidal people age 'faster', because of chronic inflammation being heavily associated with the development of cancer/neurological disorders?

Not that it really matters, given suicidal people are probably the first party you would think to not reach old age...

 

[Yog Sothoth]

This article is insanely interesting. I wonder if, by extension, this means that suicidal people age 'faster', because of chronic inflammation being heavily associated with the development of cancer/neurological disorders?

Not that it really matters, given suicidal people are probably the first party you would think to not reach old age...

Well we know for sure that stress make you age faster from a lot of perspective, so I guess it is enough evidence to assume suicidal people to age faster.
But I am not sure if you are talking about physical age or mental age.. But I think that suicidal people are more likely to age faster in both. 'x)

 

[Archness]

Sample size of 10... But fascinating nonetheless.

Tho it's always a bit frightening what they'll do once all the brain-research is complete. Mind-control anyone? Though from the (VERY) little amount of research I've done it seemed like many things may cause proliferation of claudin-5.

Tho I kinda wonder what ppl would think of a "detector" device that can read ppl's mind and give a y/n to if their suicidal. I think it'll only cause problems as people draw conclusions, place restrictions, cast judgement, try to "help", etc, with even less of a choice for the person.

 

[wait.what]

Holy shit, for a tiny study done by a high schooler, this has the potential to hit mainstream psychiatry like a wrecking ball. And who wouldn't love to see that?

Chronic inflammation and the resulting breakdown of integrity in the blood-brain barrier is a well-attested phenomenon. We know it can happen to people with illnesses as diverse as cancer, diabetes, lupus, and dementia. There's even been some exploration of whether chronic inflammation plays a role in depression as well.

As far as I know, though, this is the first time anyone has tried to find a link between chronic inflammation and suicide, however. Properly speaking, suicide is a behavior and not a condition, and we don't usually look for biological components to specific behaviors. It tends to make people uncomfortable to think that their actions can be driven by physical brain changes. As a culture, we are deeply invested in our belief in free will (myself as much as anyone), even though the scientific argument for its existence isn't terribly good. I'd be perfectly happy to kiss my pretensions to free will goodbye, however, if it meant finding a new paradigm for dealing with the year in, year out grinding mental anguish that makes death look like such a sweet release. Let's face it: affirmations stuck to the bathroom mirror and pills to correct our "chemical imbalances" aren't cutting it.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Let's face it: affirmations stuck to the bathroom mirror and pills to correct our "chemical imbalances" aren't cutting it.

Now we'll get pills to correct our inflammation and all the other factors will continue to be left by the wayside.

So says the cynic in me.

 

[wait.what]

@LaVieEnRose — Fair. I just thought it would be nice to be fobbed off with pills for a problem I actually have for a change, lol.

Speaking of inflammation, I've had multiple doctors tell me I can reduce mine by avoiding all sugar, everything made from grains or starchy vegetables, most fruit, and most dairy products. I guess certain nuts are okay. I'm allowed plain meat, but I've had a food phobia of all meats since childhood. So that's a problem.

I'm toying with the idea of working to develop MORE inflammation, in hopes of having a massive heart attack drop me.

 

[whitefeather]

Hello,
A little while ago I have heard about some young genius girl who figured out something common in the biologie of suicidal people.
I wanted to ask here if someone does know about it because I was not able to find it back (because it is hard to find anything about suicide :p)
And I am open to any kind of other scientifical article on the matter so feel free to share your intelligence! c:

Cytokines are a natural response to all harms - and suicidal people have been harmed much more than others so of course they have more cytokines ! I found research finding that suicidal people have more "mirror neurons " - like whales do . Whales survived the last mass extinction and are higher species than humans.

 

[thetruetato]

Hello,

Natasha Kulviwat?

A 16-year-old pocketed $50,000 for her award-winning discovery in the brains of people who died by suicide

Natasha Kulviwat is not your ordinary junior in high school. She's been analyzing human brains for the last year, and the research won her $50,000.

www.businessinsider.com

Just the idea of there being a future possibility having to take some kind of brain test and being informed after that the results say I'm suicidal and will be taken to a mental institution horrifies me to a very high degree. Idk if there is any real "innovation" that can be done with their research though.

 

[Fractal]

The issue is that if this is true, will stopping the inflammation be enough. If you had this inflammation for your whole life, and it led you to make decisions that led to your life being so bad that you want to CTB. Will your life be salvageable even after correcting this. For me I'm thinking it's too little too late, but I have to get on a diet that fixes this even though my severe inflammation makes it extremely difficult to control myself.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

That's very interesting. I quote this from the article: "But your body can also release them when there is no threat — during chronic stress, for example — and that can cause excessive inflammation."

In most cases "stress" - any kind of stress that becomes too much for us over time - can lead to depression and suicidal thoughts. Interesting that it could be a kind of inflammation.

 

[ihavenothingleft]

@LaVieEnRose — Fair. I just thought it would be nice to be fobbed off with pills for a problem I actually have for a change, lol.

Speaking of inflammation, I've had multiple doctors tell me I can reduce mine by avoiding all sugar, everything made from grains or starchy vegetables, most fruit, and most dairy products. I guess certain nuts are okay. I'm allowed plain meat, but I've had a food phobia of all meats since childhood. So that's a problem.

I'm toying with the idea of working to develop MORE inflammation, in hopes of having a massive heart attack drop me.

Haha same

 

[Linda]

I have just had a look at the article in Business Insider. Her sample size was far too small to conclude anything reliably.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Just another case where I'm an anomaly/outlier I guess because I still look like I did when I was 15 years old and I'm almost 30 so I don't think my suicidality has contributed at all to physical aging.