esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
Would it be safe to schedule a text message for a few days after my projected death, and to use that as a note? I worry that a physical note would severely hamper my plausible deniability - if I were found and stopped, I'd like to be able to say something like "woah where am I, I was just following this cool new SN diet I found online" and deny that it was a suicide attempt. They wouldn't entirely buy it, but I believe I could press it enough to avoid landing in a psych ward, at least. A physical note by my body would make this very difficult, so I think using a scheduled text feature - where I can cancel the scheduled text a few days later if things don't go as planned - may be a better idea. I'd be specifically using Verizon's Message+ app through my Android phone. Obviously, this comes with the danger of the texts becoming evidence if they're found in the app's servers, but I'm not sure how likely that is. What do you think?

Related, I'm thinking of writing a note with very vague language (so as not to set off any AI alarms) in my Facebook "About Me" for the handful of friends I have there who may care/be trying to confirm my death. It wouldn't be a status update; they would need to specifically dig into my profile to see it - which I don't see happening before my death. Naturally, Facebook being Facebook, this does feel more risky, however. Thoughts?
 
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ssaaahmo

ssaaahmo

Experienced
May 18, 2020
219
I think a scheduled note could be easier to hide-though I would personally avoid adding anything, even if it's vague, to a social media platform. It's your choice though.
 
esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
Definitely wouldn't directly mention death or suicide, it would just be vague statements like "the method is expected to be relatively quick and painless" and "this has nothing to do with anything you've done, you're not to blame." And it's very unlikely that anyone would see the bio until days/weeks/even months after the act. I do agree that it's an added risk, though. I'll have to think about it.

Thanks.
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
6,727
Definitely wouldn't directly mention death or suicide, it would just be vague statements like "the method is expected to be relatively quick and painless" and "this has nothing to do with anything you've done, you're not to blame." And it's very unlikely that anyone would see the bio until days/weeks/even months after the act. I do agree that it's an added risk, though. I'll have to think about it.

Thanks.

From a critical standpoint, those statements aren't vague, they're hints. I would also be concerned about Facebook's algorithms picking up on it, especially if you have ever used your real name on that account.
 
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esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
Vague enough that on the extremely unlikely chance that one of my friends who I've largely lost contact with decides to dive deep into my profile at around midnight on the night I go through with it, after I've taken the SN but in the relatively short timespan I'll be alive afterward, I doubt they'd immediately call the police. The language is worrying, but I don't think the people I know would immediately go into full panic mode. They'd maybe send messages like "are you okay?" If I don't respond, they'd probably assume I'm asleep, and try again in the morning. On the off chance they maybe do go into panic when I don't respond in an hour, then they likely have to scramble to figure out my address. How many friends do I have that will have my address easily/quickly accessible, who will also be awake at around midnight when I go through with it? Few or none. The police could eventually get it, but there would be time and procedures for them to get it, and I would be dead well before they managed.

That's way too many unlikely events for me to believe that a friend reading it could feasibly prevent my death. I'm slightly more fearful of what Facebook's AI could do. I think it's very unlikely they'd detect it - a nobody user posting something to an "About Me" page, without any keywords like "death" or "suicide", should be well outside of any theoretical emergency detection algorithms. They can't just raise a full alarm whenever anyone posts the word "painless" in their bio, that would be insane. But I still can't say I'm free of anxiety about the possibility - if there's anything to worry about with this idea, Facebook's bots would be it.
 
FriendofDeath

FriendofDeath

Elementalist
May 22, 2020
833
I think the late text message is a good idea. If you use a phone with a passcode, unless someone knows it the police might not be able to totally access your phone. Plus, if you send a late message, it will get to those you want to see it, as the police will keep your phone for awhile. The thing about a phone, if it's locked, is that your family may have great difficulty ever accessing it. They'd probably want your pics and old texts. Maybe send the code in the late message? Facebook could trip you up, but who knows?
 
esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
I think the late text message is a good idea. If you use a phone with a passcode, unless someone knows it the police might not be able to totally access your phone. Plus, if you send a late message, it will get to those you want to see it, as the police will keep your phone for awhile. The thing about a phone, if it's locked, is that your family may have great difficulty ever accessing it. They'd probably want your pics and old texts. Maybe send the code in the late message? Facebook could trip you up, but who knows?

I've never needed a password on my phone, but I suppose I might have to add one before the big day, haha. Never crossed my mind that the police would take my phone, but I guess that is likely if I succeed. I'll keep that in mind from here out, thank you.
 
FriendofDeath

FriendofDeath

Elementalist
May 22, 2020
833
I've never needed a password on my phone, but I suppose I might have to add one before the big day, haha. Never crossed my mind that the police would take my phone, but I guess that is likely if I succeed. I'll keep that in mind from here out, thank you.
I think even if the police believe it's a suicide, they take evidence from the home and site of death. They do an investigation. I'm speaking from personal experience as well as relaying what many others have stated after a family member's suicide.
 
esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
I think even if the police believe it's a suicide, they take evidence from the home and site of death. They do an investigation. I'm speaking from personal experience as well as relaying what many others have stated after a family member's suicide.
If it succeeds, it's probably pretty likely. I'm sure there's plenty of variables in play - how much it looks like a suicide to them, what their resources are like at the time (probably relatively thin at the moment, for example), what the people in charge of the case are feeling like that day, etc. I'll prepare for the possibility of them taking it, but naturally I'd like to try to keep it away from them if possible.
 
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Living sucks

Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
3,143
There's a lot of good information in this thread. A lot of things were tested and talked about so it's a good read to see which services worked and how.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suggestions-for-a-delayed-email-service.36620/
 
esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
There's a lot of good information in this thread. A lot of things were tested and talked about so it's a good read to see which services worked and how.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suggestions-for-a-delayed-email-service.36620/
My situation is a little different - it's pretty much inevitable that I'll be found by a close family member the day after I do the deed. My choice between using a delayed digital message vs. a normal physical one is based solely on my ability to plausibly deny that it was an attempt, in the event that I fail. I can cancel sending out a scheduled text message, but I'm not sure about canceling for a lot of the services mentioned in that thread. Privacy-wise it seems as good or better than any of them. Thank you though.
 
enjolras

enjolras

Dead are useless if not to love the living more
Feb 13, 2020
1,293
3 solutions in 1 for delayed emails, secured / encrypted in order to relax

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...mail-delayed-missinginaction-ctb-feats.39344/

For the rest of your plan, concerning social media, I'm also not a fan.
 
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esoragoto

esoragoto

The 1000th summer—
May 23, 2020
55
I do agree with the general opinion of this thread that attempting anything involving a note with Facebook is significantly riskier than any other kind of note. I'll reexamine my options and only turn to it if I feel that it's my only choice. Thank you.
 
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Isittimetogonola

Isittimetogonola

Kindness is a weakness to be taken advantage by al
Oct 22, 2019
198
I plan on delayed texts to go out within 30 minutes after I am gone. It will direct them to emails, also on delay. The videos will have been done well before but I have control of them until the peaceful end.
 
SpottedPanda

SpottedPanda

I'm all about coffee and cigarettes
Jul 24, 2019
612
I like this idea, though personally I think I'd like to leave a note with a variation of my last sentiments, just to cover all bases.
 
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Darksektori

Experienced
Jun 8, 2020
237
My note would be basic,

"Excuse all the blood"
 
NorthernStar

NorthernStar

All that glitters is not gold
Jun 5, 2020
38
You need to set up a pretense of being unhappy with your weight and frustrated at lack of progress with doing X or Y to fix it. Say you're going to do some research to find something cutting-edge. Wait a few days, and be like "omg I found this one new program to try but it is a lot of supplements and meal replacements to take. Luckily it's not too expensive because they say you can blend your own." Then you wait two days and say you hated the mixes so you're going to try some additional herbs/naturopathic stuff to make it worth your while/taste better/whatever. Then you take the SN that night.
 

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