Discussion Saying suicide is selfish, is selfish.

[(in)sane]

I had a discussion about this to my bf. He said that suicide seems like a selfish thing to do. It's not the first time I've heard that, so here's my take: How is wanting someone to continue living in unbearable pain for your own peace of mind any less selfish?

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I agree. Forcing others to live for your own sake is just as, if not even more selfish in comparisons to suicide.

 

[leloyon]

To say that someone who is suffering terribly, should continue suffering just because other people like them suffering, is selfish.
The more I think about the concept of being selfish, the more I wonder: who cares about being selfish? Suicide is selfish, forcing other people to live and suffer is also selfish, what does it matter?

 

[bianbianbianbian]

I mean, basically everything humans do is selfish no matter if the intention is "good" or "bad" or not. No matter if it's while we're living or choosing to end our own life or not. I'm not sure why the word "selfish" is generally used in a negative way because I think being selfish is only actually bad when it's abusive/intentionally meant to hurt or disregard other people because you put yourself on a pedestal or something like that. But, I don't know, that's really just my two cents on this and how I view it.

 

[leloyon]

I mean, basically everything humans do is selfish no matter if the intention is "good" or "bad" or not. No matter if it's while we're living or choosing to end our own life or not. I'm not sure why the word "selfish" is generally used in a negative way because I think being selfish is only actually bad when it's abusive/intentionally meant to hurt or disregard other people because you put yourself on pedestal or something like that. But, I don't know, that's really just my two cents on this and how I view it.

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[avalonisburning]

The language around suicide prevention always bothers me too. "Don't take your life." Why would you need to take something that already belongs to you? I'm not a father. I don't have any pets, or plants that rely on me to survive. Who's hands am I ripping my life out of and running off with like a mugger in the night?

 

[kindalone]

Well, it is selfish. What else would you want to be if you're suffering beyond your breaking point? Aren't you allowed to think of yourself in that moment? Is it a necessity to live for others while they have only their own problems to tend to? Are you obligated to suffer through pain they dismiss and ignore? I'd say fuck them. You have all the right to be selfish.

 

[untothedepths]

Suicide is selfish camp may often live very selfishly without thinking of others. Just...something I've noticed with people I know who absolutely hate suicidal people as if they are scum but unironically are..yeah. Anecdotal, yadda yadda whatever.