Ritalin

[SadGirl]

I think I have ADHD, but the doctors here in my country are kind of negligent, they say it's just anxiety, but I know it's not. I've already taken Ritalin (generic, not the original) 6 pills at once, and it didn't work, I just got a little more hyperactive. Can someone who uses Ritalin send me some pills? I ask for your help because I'm desperate, and I need to study and I can't.

 

[randy]

I find that less is more when it comes to adhd drugs. 7.5mg of adderall is the sweet spot. anything more makes me worse

 

[SadGirl]

Interesting, the maximum dosage that I know of is 8mg. But I don't have the medicine anymore, I have to wait for my appointment with the doctor to see if he gives me a prescription for Ritalin.

 

[katara]

I haven't taken that before but it sounds like something i probably needed my whole life haha. I could never concentrate on anything, that's why I ended up dropping out of high school. I'm sorry to hear you are struggling, i hope things get better soon <3

 

[Regen]

I heard it can be difficult to get a adhd diagnosis, because there are doctors who dont really accept adhd as an illness. So, if your doctor dont believe you, maybe you want to try another one, maybe someone with experience in diagnosis and therapy of adhd.

But sadly you need time. I really understand your pressure with learning. But maybe you can so the exam a second time, maybe you can get a priscription for illness and take an pause. Maybe you find a job with less learning. Adhd is a lifelong problem, that you cant press away with medication and then go on as normal. Only medication doesnt work.

Then you have to look if ritalin is the best for you. There are other medications for adhd, which are better I think, because Ritalin gos very fast in your blood and the passing of the medication after some hours can be a problem mentally.

Using 6 pills is not a good idea. You really need an check up of your heart before using it. And asking for pills is a violation of the Controlled Substances Act. It falls under drug trafficking.

I hope, you can get help of your doctor!!

 

[assasmash]

Interesting, the maximum dosage that I know of is 8mg. But I don't have the medicine anymore, I have to wait for my appointment with the doctor to see if he gives me a prescription for Ritalin.

You might want to aim low on dosage at first. Say you're afraid of too high a dosage and want to start small. Avoid the appearance of drug-seeking behavior, as they'll be keenly watching for that. Ritalin is sort of like a dirty Adderall though, I think they like to prescribe the latter if they can. At least in the US. Like that 7.5mg of Adderall quoted above is a low dose.

Can someone who uses Ritalin send me some pills?

If you're not familiar with the legal system yet, you will be if you try that. Sourcing some weird med from China or India is one thing, but trafficking in controlled substances like that is another - one that will get you, and anyone else dumb enough to take part, into much more serious trouble. Something like punishable by 15 years in prison in the US.

 

[throwawayyy]

I think I have ADHD, but the doctors here in my country are kind of negligent, they say it's just anxiety, but I know it's not. I've already taken Ritalin (generic, not the original) 6 pills at once, and it didn't work, I just got a little more hyperactive. Can someone who uses Ritalin send me some pills? I ask for your help because I'm desperate, and I need to study and I can't.

What was the total dose you took?

If Ritalin (methylphenidate) doesn't work, you can try amphetamine (Adderall, Vyvanse) or modafinil. Or Wellbutrin.

What is ur def of a med working well?

Most stimulants are a controlled substance in US, dark net is always an option but it comes with a risk

 

[SadGirl]

What was the total dose you took?

If Ritalin (methylphenidate) doesn't work, you can try amphetamine (Adderall, Vyvanse) or modafinil. Or Wellbutrin.

What is ur def of a med working well?

Most stimulants are a controlled substance in US, dark net is always an option but it comes with a risk

I live in Brazil, I'm going to see a doctor, it's much better.

 

[SeeminglyFine]

Ive read that ritalin dosage works like a reversed U curve
Meaning too low/high of a dose doesnt work theraputically, its sub-optimal

 

[Yamada]

If you're willing to play the long game start by asking about non-stimulant medication. After a trial period of about a month or so say it isn't working as it should be and ask if a low dose stimulant is an option. Try to avoid any drug seeking behavior and as hard as it may be avoid seeming too desperate. Bonus points if the non-stimulant medication actually works for you!

 

[Chemical Animal]

Try to avoid any drug seeking behavior and as hard as it may be avoid seeming too desperate.

Is it true that there are professionals that refuse to diagnose you with ADHD the moment they realize you're certain of having the disorder and are desperate for the diagnosis?

 

[Yamada]

Is it true that there are professionals that refuse to diagnose you with ADHD the moment they realize you're certain of having the disorder and are desperate for the diagnosis?

Sort of but it is usually dependent on how your doctor is and what your home country is like. In the US most good doctors will at least listen to you if you have a decent explanation as to why you feel you have it. That said you still need to be careful with how you phrase it. "I googled my symptoms and it says I need drugs" or some equivalent isn't usually going to work well. It requires a little more tact.

Edit: asking questions is a good way to get them on your side too. Try to be open about alternatives. A diagnosis can be affirming and wanting one isn't a bad thing. There's a non-zero chance they will be open to that part of it.

 

[SeeminglyFine]

Is it true that there are professionals that refuse to diagnose you with ADHD the moment they realize you're certain of having the disorder and are desperate for the diagnosis?

ive been diagnosed as a child but if memory serves right, ive read that also as an adult you need to be tested for it( by completing tasks/tests i guess) the same way i was diagnosed as i child, well probably differently but the testing still needs to occur i suppose, atleast where i live.

As for doctors being less compliant when you as a patient are presenting your symptoms eith full convention of the diagnosis, i think thats a common theme with anything not just adhd, but honestly i cant speak for all doctors, that would be unfair, this has been my personal experience though..

I usually play kinda dumb with my doctor and leading him to my conclusions, one time when i didnt do that he got mad and asked me: whos the doctor here me or you?? Did you come here to tell me what to do or did you come for my help?

 

[Yamada]

ive been diagnosed as a child but if memory serves right, ive read that also as an adult you need to be tested for it( by completing tasks/tests i guess) the same way i was diagnosed as i child, well probably differently but the testing still needs to occur i suppose, atleast where i live.

As for doctors being less compliant when you as a patient are presenting your symptoms eith full convention of the diagnosis, i think thats a common theme with anything not just adhd, but honestly i cant speak for all doctors, that would be unfair, this has been my personal experience though..

I usually play kinda dumb with my doctor and leading him to my conclusions, one time when i didnt do that he got mad and asked me: whos the doctor here me or you?? Did you come here to tell me what to do or did you come for my help?

Adult ADHD is so stigmatized. I've been attempting to get back on medication since it's become worse and it's much harder this time around even though I've had it all my life. That experience with your doctor is a textbook definition of how some can be too worried about their title and less about treatment like a good number of them are.

 

[SeeminglyFine]

Btw ive been trying to think recently if my ritalin stopped working once i switched to the generic rubifen SR , Im starting to think my adverse effects arent from having high tolerance but from the generic meds, ive read that a small number of people/kids have had adverse effects/lack of effect to it, maybe cuz of some reaction to the pill's coating.

Whats the name of the pills you took?

First time i took ritalin it was 10mg, instant release, and it was better than almost anything ive experienced, i felt like theres no way id be able to handle 1 and a half pill.

Nowdays im dealing with something called adhd zombie effect, the effect gets really bad once i overdose

Also, the meds wont fully absorb if you took them with something acidic like some citrus fruit.

Also theres a comorbidity of adhd with Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome, and being a nightowl.
i dont feel the ritalin at mornings.

sleep deprivation is another thing that will make the meds less effective.

Maybe also some problems with nmda receptors or dopamine D4 receptor or d2, but im not too knowledgeable on that honestly...

It just sounds to me like the dose was WAY too high(unless you actually did take it with some orange/grapefruit juice or somthing).
the effect isnt getting stronger with a bigger dose, it just becomes different, or paradoxical

Also i think theres some gender differences in response to the medication, i forgot the difference.

Oh, also theres a thing about adhd and copper/zinc imbalance.
That might effect the response to the meds.
Copper+vitamin c+dopamine is needed to make norepinephrine through dopamine beta-hydroxylase, so perhaps a copper excess could prevent the medication from fixing hyperactivity or the feeling of excess physical energy

Also magnesium/calcium/vitamin d deficiency

im guessing other problems can play a role aswell, thyroid,kidneys,minerals imbalance,anemia, diet
And minerals pumps(thats the case for me), potassium rapidly shifting into the cells got me often drained untill i took potassium supplements, stimulants cause a decrease in potassium levels, and theres also some connection between potassium and dopamine.

I wish i could just pop a pill and not have to dig into this knowledge... but adhd is more than just low dopamine+norepinephrine.. theres even a difference in the balance of amino acids, its wicked

It makes more sense to try a different medication if one doesnt work though.

Im dealing with the something similar with my GP so i just asked to get a referral to a neurologist/psychiatrist

 

[Chemical Animal]

you still need to be careful with how you phrase it. "I googled my symptoms and it says I need drugs" or some equivalent isn't usually going to work well. It requires a little more tact.

When I said about certainty of being ADHD, I meant like "I've read a lot of ADHD struggle stories from forums and social media users, watched YT videos from professionals about the disorder, read articles about it and all of it hits too close to home". That's pretty much the reason I'm under a neuropsychological evaluation atm. But what you said is not wrong at all.

I usually play kinda dumb with my doctor and leading him to my conclusions, one time when i didnt do that he got mad and asked me: whos the doctor here me or you?? Did you come here to tell me what to do or did you come for my help?

This is actually one of my fears during my evaluation, trying to lead the doctor to my conclusions and ending up with it backfiring against me.

Adult ADHD is so stigmatized. I've been attempting to get back on medication since it's become worse and it's much harder this time around even though I've had it all my life.

It's 2023 and people still think ADHD is a "children disorder" that magically disappears as soon as you turn 18. The condition is still there, people only get better at masking it.

 

[SeeminglyFine]

This is actually one of my fears during my evaluation, trying to lead the doctor to my conclusions and ending up with it backfiring against me.

Ye, like Yamada mentioned, it requires some tact,
today i cancelled my doctors appointment cuz i was too tired and not in the mood to be sophisticated and overthink while in the doctors office...
and i seemed to have figured that i much rather speak to my doctor while im medicated, otherwise im not in a mood to think too much about my tact and apply any required sophistication.
Been doing that with alcohol aswell before i got my meds, for me doctors appointments can be very unbearable.
I often find myself asking my doctors questions that i know the answer to, and hold my tongue when the answer they give is false.

And i wont ask for sleeping pills on the same day that i complain about daytime sleepiness(unless i could be sophisticated about it) to try to also get a non-stimulant ADD medication, i reckon they cant comprehend why its not a contradiction to being insomniac when its nightime and time to sleep, especially with ADD