religion

[okyeah]

I used to disregard all religion when I was younger and more naive. Now I see the value in the stories that they provide. I feel like these stories have fundamental truths about human nature. I feel like they are intrinsically misogynistic as well.

I used to think people were more stupid and stuff back then but I think they haven't changed besides maybe dialect. Life seems to be rather simple. Fill time with hobbies, family, job. Hope to get a wife. Eat and sleep. Human nature and social strategies seem to be completely the same.

Do you guys think there is massive value in the major ancient religions? Do you think society has strayed far from them? How do you think this may affect everything?

 

[Threads]

There is value in religious and spiritual beliefs to the point of understanding the values of a culture. They aren't necessarily the best way to do it, an example would be the vast differences in interpretation of Christianity between the American Right and the American Left.

By today's standards Abrahamic religions are intrinsically misogynistic.

 

[okyeah]

I made a post earlier about how it appears the story of adam and eve shows how eating the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge leads to nihilism and suicide. The tree of knowledge represents science or the internet. The forbidden fruit is the understanding of human nature - classism, sexism, racism, etc. When you eat the fruit you become nihilistic and it leads to suicide. God warns adam and eve eating the fruit leads to death.

 

[BA81]

Religion is a double edge sword, but it unquestionably has a lot of merit especially for people that naturally have broken moral compasses and need guidance. Religion can help give hope and purpose to those that may lack the self motivation to find it themselves. There are stories of wisdom and teaching passed down through religion that are timeless and valuable.

Value in religion is subjective. Some use it to unite people while others use it to divide and control people.

 

[BA81]

The most ancient of religions are pagan religions and they are just as prevalent now in our current western society's as they were in the past (maybe even more so). Many people that claim to not follow religion or believe in God and call themselves an atheist actually do follow a sort of religion and do believe in a god they just aren't aware of it. Those atheist are actually pagans that blindly follow a nameless religion and worship a nameless god.

 

[About_to_Go]

Many people that claim to not follow religion or believe in God and call themselves an atheist actually do follow a sort of religion and do believe in a god they just aren't aware of it. Those atheist are actually pagans that blindly follow a nameless religion and worship a nameless god.

How do you figure?

 

[BA81]

How do you figure?

Are you an atheist?

 

[okyeah]

i also wonder a lot about why many religions teach that women are to be subservient to men? What do you guys think the purpose of this ideology is to society? Do you think marriage is necessary to keep men in the workforce?

 

[About_to_Go]

Are you an atheist?

Yes

 

[BA81]

Yes

How do you believe the existence we experience was created?

 

[About_to_Go]

How do you believe the existence we experience was created?

I have no idea

 

[BA81]

I have no idea

Okay, the reason I ask is because a lot of atheist believe in the Big Bang theory or similar TOE (theories of everything).

The specific form that which God takes is purely speculation, but what isn't speculation is that God is the creator of all. God is the creator, so the moment anybody identifies what they believe to be the creator of all things they are in fact identifying and acknowledging their god. In the case of the Big Bang theory a person that believes in it then believes that the singularity is the creator of all things and thus is their god.

A theory is just a theory and the Big Bang theory is no different. It is not fact. Believing in that theory is the same as having faith. This is especially true when somebody believes in the big bang theory yet has no understanding of cosmology and has to rely on a cosmologist to propose the theories, publish and teach the theories. The cosmologist in that case is no different to any religious figure that offers guidance in a faith.

When a theory of everything is published as a paper it may end up in a book alongside other theories of everything. That book in turn is nothing more than a book of beliefs as to the existence of everything.

As an atheist do you celebrate holidays like Christmas?

 

[About_to_Go]

Okay, the reason I ask is because a lot of atheist believe in the Big Bang theory or similar TOE (theories of everything).

The specific form that which God takes is purely speculation, but what isn't speculation is that God is the creator of all. God is the creator, so the moment anybody identifies what they believe to be the creator of all things they are in fact identifying and acknowledging their god. In the case of the Big Bang theory a person that believes in it then believes that the singularity is the creator of all things and thus is their god.

A theory is just a theory and the Big Bang theory is no different. It is not fact. Believing in that theory is the same as having faith. This is especially true when somebody believes in the big bang theory yet has no understanding of cosmology and has to rely on a cosmologist to propose the theories, publish and teach the theories. The cosmologist in that case is no different to any religious figure that offers guidance in a faith.

When a theory of everything is published as a paper it may end up in a book alongside other theories of everything. That book in turn is nothing more than a book of beliefs as to the existence of everything.

As an atheist do you celebrate holidays like Christmas?

Ok, I see where you're coming from now. I guess it all depends on what your definition of God/a god is. I'd still consider myself an atheist because I don't worship any God or gods.

 

[BA81]

Ok, I see where you're coming from now. I guess it all depends on what your definition of God/a god is. I'd still consider myself an atheist because I don't worship any God or gods.

Are you sure you don't worship a God or any god's? If you do not work on a holiday then you are holding that day sacred. If you celebrate a holiday (holy day) then you are worshipping on that day. If you celebrate during a holy day like Easter but are not a Christian then you are worshipping the futility goddess Eostre. If you give and recirec chocolate eggs and chocolate bunnies then you are performing an Easter tradition or performing a ritual in worship of Eostre.

 

[BA81]

Do you own anything made by Nike?

 

[BA81]

Are you sure you don't worship a God or are you just unaware that some of your actions are actually acts of worship?

 

[About_to_Go]

Are you sure you don't worship a God or are you just unaware that some of your actions are actually acts of worship?

Maybe I'm just unaware

 

[BA81]

Maybe I'm just unaware

I'm only stating an opinion or making an observation. An observation between some atheist and people of religious faith.

Sometimes the lines that define and divides people aren't always so clear cut and sometimes people are more similar to each other than they think.

What I stated is not fact and it is only food for thought.