Discussion Registry of suicidal attempts in Poland

[Querry1]

Registry of suicidal attempts

In Poland, our Ministry of Health wants to create registry of people that have attempted suicide.

The said register, known as the "National Database for Monitoring and Prevention of Suicide Behavior", is aimed at gathering information about suicide, which - according to the assumptions - is to contribute, as the name suggests, to adequate prevention of suicidal behavior and probably the development of suicidology as such.

A spokesman for the Ministry of Health confirmed that the relevant work was ongoing. In addition, psychiatrists, psychologists, toxicologists, police officers and firefighters sitting in the ministerial suicidological team agree that recording a suicide attempt increases the chance of a person taking it again, so monitoring can help predict the risk of suicide.

In 2019, 5,255 people committed suicide in Poland, including over 4,500. men. It is estimated that there were between 10 and 15 times more suicide attempts.

Such a record may mean for some the possibility of lifelong patch of a "would-be suicide", which - at least in Poland - does not make life easier in any way.

If you ask me, it's fucked up and it will stigmatize people like me even more, Polish society is intolerant for suicidal people in my opinion and they become drawn out.

 

[rhiino]

Its awful. In one state in Germany they tried to establish something similar, except every mentally ill person should have been monitored. It was prevented, but the fact alone that people try to establish something like that is disgusting.

 

[kinzokukae]

that's disgusting.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Do you have any links to this? I find myself getting angry at the injustice, but am I getting angry at something that's actually happening, or something that someone said is happening?

 

[favourite]

Another reason to leave this shithole forever.

 

[VabeniPokojneTmy]

Do you have any links to this? I find myself getting angry at the injustice, but am I getting angry at something that's actually happening, or something that someone said is happening?

www.researchgate.net/publication/337244458_Milestones_in_the_development_of_national_suicide_prevention_strategy_in_Poland

 

[pentobarbitaldreams]

Dystopian as fuck.

 

[favourite]

I'd really like to know if Polish 'suicide prevention' has ever prevented someone from suicide effectively.

 

[Querry1]

Do you have any links to this? I find myself getting angry at the injustice, but am I getting angry at something that's actually happening, or something that someone said is happening?

I have only links for Polish websites stating this

Rejestr prób samobójczych. Chęć pomocy, czy stygmatyzacji?

Zespół suicydologów, pracujący w ramach Ministerstwa Zdrowia, chce, by wprowadzić rejestr prób samobójczych. Co ma mieć on na celu?

bezprawnik.pl

Rejestr pomoże uniknąć ponownych prób samobójczych

Lekarze i policjanci chcieliby mieć dostęp do informacji o zamachach samobójczych obywateli. Prawnicy: to głęboka ingerencja w prawa podstawowe.

www.rp.pl

Wyborcza.pl

www.wysokieobcasy.pl

I'd really like to know if Polish 'suicide prevention' has ever prevented someone from suicide effectively.

I have met a lot of suicidal people from Poland, none of them got help from gov, no actions have helped them, it got even worse, psychiatric hospitals are in a bad shape, it's really hard there. Suicide prevention is so fake.

I have only links for Polish websites stating this

Rejestr prób samobójczych. Chęć pomocy, czy stygmatyzacji?

Zespół suicydologów, pracujący w ramach Ministerstwa Zdrowia, chce, by wprowadzić rejestr prób samobójczych. Co ma mieć on na celu?

bezprawnik.pl

Rejestr pomoże uniknąć ponownych prób samobójczych

Lekarze i policjanci chcieliby mieć dostęp do informacji o zamachach samobójczych obywateli. Prawnicy: to głęboka ingerencja w prawa podstawowe.

www.rp.pl

Wyborcza.pl

www.wysokieobcasy.pl

I have met a lot of suicidal people from Poland, none of them got help from gov, no actions have helped them, it got even worse, psychiatric hospitals are in a bad shape, it's really hard there. Suicide prevention is so fake.

It's been getting worse and worse, we are no way on to being pro-choice, it's going to being a slave for life. I can go anytime and it's helping me mentally, but think of all of us that have no escape... So unfair.

 

[rhiino]

I'd really like to know if Polish 'suicide prevention' has ever prevented someone from suicide effectively.

Well, what is "effectively"? It might actually prevent people from suiciding, but at what price? They are not happy then, they don't live a good life. It just extends their pain. It is the slavery of the living.

 

[AJ.]

Polish ombudsman asked minister of health about this project(in July, but I forgot to actualize my thread). Undersecretary answered that there aren't any formal works about this register(so @Soul was right) and wrote that second Suicidology Congress in Lodz(19 and 20 November - next Friday) will be an opportunity to raise this and another topics(this might mean nothing, I'm afraid). Maybe we will receive some information soon.
Unfortunately I haven't found anything about this in English, so source is only in polish:
https://rpo.gov.pl/pl/content/rpo-czemu-ma-sluzyc-rejestr-osob-ktore-podjely-probe-samobojcza
https://rpo.gov.pl/pl/content/mz-do-rpo-dane-o-probach-samobojczych-maja-sluzyc-profilaktyce
I omitted this thread in June and didn't have any idea what to type into a search bar to check if any thread about this had been created - that is why I created one myself, sorry.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

So it's like a registry for sex offenders.

Depressed, poor, abandoned people who want to end their misery are treated like child predators.

Polish politicians... nasty, very nasty.

 

[woxihuanni]

So it's like a registry for sex offenders.

Depressed, poor, abandoned people who want to end their misery are treated like child predators.

Polish politicians... nasty, very nasty.

Notice, in contrapoint, how no country ever has a registry for narc/sociopath abusers.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Notice, in contrapoint, how no country ever has a registry for narc/sociopath abusers.

I was just wondering about that... is there a registry for domestic violence or male/female abusers? I put females just to be PC

 

[woxihuanni]

I was just wondering about that... is there a registry for domestic violence or male/female abusers? I put females just to be PC

Nada, nill. Let alone an official registry, have you EVER heard of an abuser socially admonished or ostracised? Or does everybody guilt and shame every new victim because they trusted the abuser instead?

When I mentioned to my sister in law that my husband had promised his commitment to me early in the relationship, she said 'I'd never believe a man if he did that'. So it was my fault.

 

[kohaku]

Holy fuck I hate this country. I already had a news article written about me, I don't need more of this.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Government made lists for citizens never end well for the people on those lists...

 

[AllReturnsToNothing]

With how reactionary the dominant culture in Poland is right now, this can only go badly.