Discussion Question

[Darksektori]

How many of you had people tell you "if you really wanted to CTB you would of done it already" Such ignorance Is mind blowing. Sometimes I've thought about CTB just to shut up these drones and prove em wrong.

 

[Arrow]

those people are complete and utter clowns. anyone who doesn't understand what survival instinct is is either trolling or lacking physical brain matter.

 

[prochoicefriend]

I put those people on the same level as people who say SI is the coward's way out. They are all idiots.

 

[HelensNepenthe]

these people:

 

[Darksektori]

I put those people on the same level as people who say SI is the coward's way out. They are all idiots.

I think its envy, we wish and have a way to control our own destiny and they're either too ignorant or scared of what lies beyond the veil of death. Which in itself is misleading, death is simply a transition to another (and hopefully better)sphere of consciousness.

 

[AnxietyAttack44]

Alot of people, and all of them were from here

 

[Darksektori]

"The literal meaning of life is whatever you're doing that prevents you from killing yourself."

"Life's greatest gift is the freedom it leaves you to step out of it whenever you choose"

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These 2 quotes that sums it all up

 

[Soulless_Angel]

I once had someone say to me if i really wanted to die i would have walked out in front of a lorry... A lorry that was doing 25mph at the time
Yea fuck off. My death will not involve another there is no need or point.

Suicide is a personal choice and one that cannot be taken easily. Those that hold out are either holding out hope or waiting for the right moment.
Those that seem impulsive we cannot comment on as who knows if they hadnt been planning too for a long time.
Suicide isn't as simple as omg i want to die ill go hang myself right now, there has to be some thought process
But sadly those that spout that shit clearly have no true understanding

 

[Cosmiq]

Never had it happened, but I ride a motorcycle. People like to tell me how risky it is, and I always say if I get in an accident I really hope I die lol.
Also that if I don't die, I definitely want bionic limbs. have AD&D insurance for that specific reason.

 

[Morphosis]

How many of you had people tell you "if you really wanted to CTB you would of done it already" Such ignorance Is mind blowing. Sometimes I've thought about CTB just to shut up these drones and prove em wrong.

Yep I hear ya, I've had that. Also was told that people who talked about suicide don't really mean it, that if I meant it I would've just done it. To be clear, I only mentioned my attempts AFTER they were unsuccessful, not that I was going to do it. This from my ex-partner who then helpfully suggested that if I wanted to drive off a cliff, they would come with me to make sure the handbrake was off and I did it properly next time.
Like you say, such ignorance is truly mind-blowing.
Reminds me of an excellent quote I saw years ago.... "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."

 

[SpottedPanda]

Nobody's said that me me, though if they did I'd think them grossly insensitive/ignorant. I've heard of people being asked when applying for benefits "why haven't you killed yourself yet?" Which again, the mind boggles.

It's like saying that if someone really wanted to work in retail they'd be stood in the department store right now. Suicide often feels like a goal, to me, something to move towards, and gear up to.

 

[Darksektori]

Nobody's said that me me, though if they did I'd think them grossly insensitive/ignorant. I've heard of people being asked when applying for benefits "why haven't you killed yourself yet?" Which again, the mind boggles.

It's like saying that if someone really wanted to work in retail they'd be stood in the department store right now. Suicide often feels like a goal, to me, something to move towards, and gear up to.

I also hate how they think you're out looking for attention, or the whole it's an easy way or cowards way out,

 

[SpottedPanda]

I also hate how they think you're out looking for attention, or the whole it's an easy way or cowards way out,

I don't worry too much about that. I can't very well appreciate attention when I'm dead. Though sadly some "suicide attempts" are cries for help. That's not really my style.

As a self confessed lazy person, I'm always looking for the easy option. And cowardly? I'm quite a meek person. Truth doesn't hurt if you already accept it.

 

[Darksektori]

I don't worry too much about that. I can't very well appreciate attention when I'm dead. Though sadly some "suicide attempts" are cries for help. That's not really my style.

As a self confessed lazy person, I'm always looking for the easy option. And cowardly? I'm quite a meek person. Truth doesn't hurt if you already accept it.

There's subtle ways and extreme ways of crying for help I personally have tried holding on as best I can. You can only fight so much until you have lost everything and there's no end.

 

[rikamonie]

not exactly that but i have had people tell me that i wouldnt do it or i wont do it or i cant do it, after i have repeatedly told them im going to and wont be here soon but i guess thats a good thing since they wont be watching me too closely

 

[SpottedPanda]

There's subtle ways and extreme ways of crying for help I personally have tried holding on as best I can. You can only fight so much until you have lost everything and there's no end.

I have sympathy for those seeking help by any means necessary, though I'm always reminded of this scene when I meet people who did actions that were clearly non fatal and say they tried to commit suicide.

not exactly that but i have had people tell me that i wouldnt do it or i wont do it or i cant do it, after i have repeatedly told them im going to and wont be here soon but i guess thats a good thing since they wont be watching me too closely

Even telling you that feels too close to goading you/a challenge.

I do all I can within reason to not arouse too much suspicion.

 

[rikamonie]

Even telling you that feels too close to goading you/a challenge.

I do all I can within reason to not arouse too much suspicion.
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i end up telling people since when im struggling and in pain i cant keep it to myself it just comes out and i know they wouldnt be able to stop me anyway but they say those things to me since they cant truly understand my pain in life and think that im just venting

 

[SpottedPanda]

i end up telling people since when im struggling and in pain i cant keep it to myself it just comes out and i know they wouldnt be able to stop me anyway but they say those things to me since they cant truly understand my pain in life and think that im just venting

I tell my care coordinator about feeling suicidal. I even tell her when I've been close, after the fact. Though if she asks if I've got any plans to harm myself anytime soon I always say no. True, three meals a day never hurt anyone, but I'm hesitant to walk the halls full of people shouting for seemingly no reason, if I can avoid it.