Psychiatry prove the existence of time-machine.

[Mendex]

Maybe, psychiatrists have a time-machine in his office. Because they might diagnose you even if you are death. In other words, Psychiatrist diagnosis are popular for being more inaccurate than physical diagnosis (Usually because they don't have empirical evidence of your behavior when you are death). Then to solve the inaccurate issue at post-mortem diagnosis, they discovery the time machine to diagnose for given a example the bipolar disorder of Beethoven or the Asperger syndrome of Newton. Therefore if you prove the accuracy of post-mortem psychiatrist diagnosis you practically proven as well that the time-machine exist!

 

[bobjohn420911]

Uh... half of what you are saying makes sense... I fully agree with you that 99% of diagnosis is bullshit. If a doctor says you have something don't believe them they are just trying to put you down.

You can function and live the same lives as anyone else. Everyone is equal. Don't let a word or name make you feel bad. We are all human. These "diagnosis" are just made up medical terms. mostly at least.

 

[Lupgevif]

These diagnosis are medical terms that often encapsulate patterns of behaviours that may interfere and hinder the diagnosed person's life. A diagnosis doesn't define you, but having one can help you know what you are dealing with/what is it that is hindering your life.

 

[bobjohn420911]

These diagnosis are medical terms that often encapsulate patterns of behaviours that may interfere and hinder the diagnosed person's life. A diagnosis doesn't define you, but having one can help you know what you are dealing with/what is it that is hindering your life.

That is true that they are medical terms that encapsulate patterns of behaviours however.... I think sometimes they attach diagnosis on to people when really the person is just going through something else....

1 example is this 19 year old kid i met in a physc ward he had been smoking meth out of a light bulb for past years and homeless..

obviously he is talking about wierd stuff like the devil or other nonsense. Doctors diagnoses him with schizophrenia. He was still smoking marijuana.

He would tell people " yup i have schizophrenia and all this stuff." I mean he was acting pretty mental like he could not really control his ramblings however i just saw it as this kid never was raised properly or shown what he is doing or saying is not proper.


To me it was that he did not have schizophrenia at all because he was not born like that. It was because he was smoking meth and homeless that he is acting improperly.

With the right guidance and teaching he could have been made into a perfectly capable human being. I don't know where he is at now.

However I hear of lots of people being labeled things like autistic when really they are just suffering from not being raised or guided properly. i mean everyones situation is different some people do have a distinct condition however i really believe lots of people have nothing wrong with them if they just were given the right help and shown and taught the right way.

 

[watchingthewheels]

Maybe, psychiatrists have a time-machine in his office. Because they might diagnose you even if you are death. In other words, Psychiatrist diagnosis are popular for being more inaccurate than physical diagnosis (Usually because they don't have empirical evidence of your behavior when you are death). Then to solve the inaccurate issue at post-mortem diagnosis, they discovery the time machine to diagnose for given a example the bipolar disorder of Beethoven or the Asperger syndrome of Newton. Therefore if you prove the accuracy of post-mortem psychiatrist diagnosis you practically proven as well that the time-machine exist!

I've heard this stated as " A diagnosis looking for a patient..."

 

[Nicothe13th]

Uh... half of what you are saying makes sense... I fully agree with you that 99% of diagnosis is bullshit. If a doctor says you have something don't believe them they are just trying to put you down.

You can function and live the same lives as anyone else. Everyone is equal. Don't let a word or name make you feel bad. We are all human. These "diagnosis" are just made up medical terms. mostly at least.

Cancer.

These diagnosis are medical terms that often encapsulate patterns of behaviours that may interfere and hinder the diagnosed person's life. A diagnosis doesn't define you, but having one can help you know what you are dealing with/what is it that is hindering your life.

Yeah, I got this thing called breathing, it's becoming a real problem.

 

[Mendex]

These diagnosis are medical terms that often encapsulate patterns of behaviours that may interfere and hinder the diagnosed person's life. A diagnosis doesn't define you, but having one can help you know what you are dealing with/what is it that is hindering your life.

Therefore is impossible to make a "medical diagnosis" in psychiatry with an encapsulate patterns of behavior because you are being diagnosed from what are you "doing" (For given an example "hearing voices" is what schizophrenic person does) rather than from what you "have" (Like having symptoms of cough, if you have a common cold).
In conclusion, you are not diagnosing anything as real as a physical disease because is pure Insubstantial behavior even more if you are death.

 

[Nicothe13th]

That is true that they are medical terms that encapsulate patterns of behaviours however.... I think sometimes they attach diagnosis on to people when really the person is just going through something else....

1 example is this 19 year old kid i met in a physc ward he had been smoking meth out of a light bulb for past years and homeless..

obviously he is talking about wierd stuff like the devil or other nonsense. Doctors diagnoses him with schizophrenia. He was still smoking marijuana.

He would tell people " yup i have schizophrenia and all this stuff." I mean he was acting pretty mental like he could not really control his ramblings however i just saw it as this kid never was raised properly or shown what he is doing or saying is not proper.


To me it was that he did not have schizophrenia at all because he was not born like that. It was because he was smoking meth and homeless that he is acting improperly.

With the right guidance and teaching he could have been made into a perfectly capable human being. I don't know where he is at now.

However I hear of lots of people being labeled things like autistic when really they are just suffering from not being raised or guided properly. i mean everyones situation is different some people do have a distinct condition however i really believe lots of people have nothing wrong with them if they just were given the right help and shown and taught the right way.

'Calls the devil nonsense, is reminded of his mistake for eternity in hell.'

Therefore from what are you saying, is impossible to make a "medical diagnosis" in psychiatry with an encapsulate patterns of behavior because you are being diagnosed from what are you "doing" (For given an example "hearing voices" is what schizophrenic person does) rather than from what you "have" (Like having symptoms of cough, if you have a common cold).
In conclusion, you are not diagnosing anything as real as a physical disease.

@Moldbug so everyone who isn't deaf, and has had a conversation is schizophrenic?

Makes sense, that's why the world's a fuckery.

 

[Pony]

To me it was that he did not have schizophrenia at all because he was not born like that. It was because he was smoking meth and homeless that he is acting improperly.

drug addiction and mental health are complicated topics, sometimes drugs cause mental health problems other times drugs are used to get relief from mental health problems. Just stopping drugs wouldn't suddenly make his life perfect.

 

[Nicothe13th]

A perfect life simply doesn't exist, drugs aren't so bad in moderation.

But stuff like meth, or coke I'd avoid entirely.

A bit of puff, or shrooms can be pretty harmless and often enhance life.

 

[Lupgevif]

Are you really saying hearing, seeing and believing things that aren't really there is not a mental condition, but merely a result of the environment or "not being raised properly"? I get your point, but schizophrenia was a hell of a dumb way to exemplify it.

What I am going through in my life does not justify my incessant suicidal desires and ideations, yet I am constantly going through low moods and lack of motivation. In my case, I have indeed a illness that is not a result of my environment, but rather a malfunction of my own system. Just because psychiatry did not work with you, doesn't mean it doesn't work for everyone, and I say that as someone who's highly skeptical of such pseudoscience.

 

[bobjohn420911]

drug addiction and mental health are complicated topics, sometimes drugs cause mental health problems other times drugs are used to get relief from mental health problems. Just stopping drugs wouldn't suddenly make his life perfect.

I stopped all drugs and alcahol just over 2 months ago. I have felt best I have ever felt. I am reading lots. Books and internet. I also getting into stretching and yoga. I am going to be sober for the rest of my life. I recommend sobriety to everyone. It may be difficult at first and for a while however that is just because your mind is learning how to get over what ever your problems you have. Eventually if you struggle and bare through it you will be much stronger later in time. You will feel better.

 

[Mendex]

Are you really saying hearing, seeing and believing things that aren't really there is not a mental condition, but merely a result of the environment or "not being raised properly"? I get your point, but schizophrenia was a hell of a dumb way to exemplify it.

Your approach is fair, I little exemplify a great topic such as schizophrenia (which is the history of psychiatry).
To understand better my posture, I would recommend to research concepts in philosophy of mind like "other minds" or "P-zombie". You would understand better if you want to.

"life does not justify my incessant suicidal desires and idealizations" You are responsible of what you owe, therefore you know better your life than anyone in this world in the sake of justified or not.

"Just because psychiatry did not work with you, doesn't mean it doesn't work for everyone" I don't remember saying going to psychiatry before.
But in the case I would said,
if you mean how psychiatry "work" by change the inventory of mental traits reflected in the behavior of a patient, then I agree,
If you mean "work" by cured them, then I disagree. I am sure you heard it before, a so called "mental illness" can't be cured.
If you mean by other posture besides this both, I would delighted to know.

Here.
Other minds:

Other Minds (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

P-zombie.

Zombies (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[Nicothe13th]

Mental illness can be cured, that's waffle.

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

Psychiatrists are stupid af and they ruined my life. When I die they are very certainly going to invent I had some of their pseudoscientific illnesses rather than admit their neurotoxic drugs harmed me.

 

[Nicothe13th]

Psychiatrists are stupid af and they ruined my life. When I die they are very certainly going to invent I had some of their pseudoscientific illnesses rather than admit their neurotoxic drugs harmed me.

It's practically guaranteed, fuckers.

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

It's practically guaranteed, fuckers.

I know :( I want to try to speak out against psychiatry and at least share my story before ctb.

 

[Nicothe13th]

It's risky, speak up and they'll look at you like you're crazed.

 

[Buffy5120]

Maybe, psychiatrists have a time-machine in his office. Because they might diagnose you even if you are death. In other words, Psychiatrist diagnosis are popular for being more inaccurate than physical diagnosis (Usually because they don't have empirical evidence of your behavior when you are death). Then to solve the inaccurate issue at post-mortem diagnosis, they discovery the time machine to diagnose for given a example the bipolar disorder of Beethoven or the Asperger syndrome of Newton. Therefore if you prove the accuracy of post-mortem psychiatrist diagnosis you practically proven as well that the time-machine exist!

Amen clinics has a brain scan which is kinda of like an fmri that will give u an accurate diagnosis. Whats even crazier is insurance doesnt cover them, why is that? Because they actually dont bullshit and guess, unlike general doctors that accept insurance.

It's risky, speak up and they'll look at you like you're crazed.

Ikr because they dont want to lose their jobs its all a fucking money scheme. Like wtf

 

[LittleJem]

I've seen two psychiatrists so far. Neither of them had known what to diagnose me with. I was lucky the medication I tried only gave me one side effect (sleeping all the time/barely being able to walk down the street) but it didn't help my suicidal thoughts.

I also found them arrogant. Particularly the second one. And ignorant - the first one. He didn't know about LSD and SSRIs, but knowing about the brain is his job, and LSD is important in the history of psychiatry as it led to treatments for schizophrenia.

I'm sure they want to help and they do their best, but the reality is that they don't know that much and the medications they use can help but can make things worse. In some cases, devastatingly so..

 

[Buffy5120]

I've seen two psychiatrists so far. Neither of them had known what to diagnose me with. I was lucky the medication I tried only gave me one side effect (sleeping all the time/barely being able to walk down the street) but it didn't help my suicidal thoughts.

I also found them arrogant. Particularly the second one. And ignorant - the first one. He didn't know about LSD and SSRIs, but knowing about the brain is his job, and LSD is important in the history of psychiatry as it led to treatments for schizophrenia.

I'm sure they want to help and they do their best, but the reality is that they don't know that much and the medications they use can help but can make things worse. In some cases, devastatingly so..

Have you tried genesight or genomind?

 

[Lupgevif]

You are responsible of what you owe, therefore you know better your life than anyone in this world in the sake of justified or not.

What does you mean?

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

These diagnosis are medical terms that often encapsulate patterns of behaviours that may interfere and hinder the diagnosed person's life. A diagnosis doesn't define you, but having one can help you know what you are dealing with/what is it that is hindering your life.

I've heard psychologists refusing to giving a name to the diagnosis of patients, as they believe that the name will be stuck on them and they will use that label to evaluate or justify everything they do.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

Psychiatry is shit and it can suck my ass.

 

[watchingthewheels]

Psychiatry is shit and can suck my ass.

Synchronicity...this was just recommended on my youtube sidebar, and I had just started to listen to this when your comment popped up...

 

[EmbraceOfTheVoid]

I've heard psychologists refusing to giving a name to the diagnosis of patients, as they believe that the name will be stuck on them and they will use that label to evaluate or justify everything they do.

The labels themselves are based on subjective opinion and are often used as judgements of disdain so I'd personally agree that it's often better not to give someone a label to go by.

It honestly sounds like a good approach because there are people who use their diagnosis as an excuse for their bad behavior.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

Synchronicity

 

[watchingthewheels]

If you think that's gonna stop me, lol...I've heard it all before.
You don't have to believe in such things. But just let me have this moment of levity, please? I don't need any more grief this morning.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

If you think that's gonna stop me, lol...I've heard it all before.
You don't have to believe in such things. But just let me have this moment of levity, please? I don't need any more grief this morning.

I don't have the power to take away your levity and don't wish to. Have a good morning.

 

[watchingthewheels]

I don't have the power to take away your levity and don't wish to. Have a good morning.

Thank you.

"So shines a good deed in a weary world." -WILLY WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY