Venting Psychiatry is so horrible

[TaffyFlounder]

Psychiatry is so horrible in this world, and I truly think it does A LOT more harm than good because it is so profit-driven. I keep hearing how either those meds don't work, make the person feel empty, or make them addicted; even worse is that often they are forced on them. It is so infuriating how people talk about respecting bodily autonomy but then go back on their word whenever they feel like it. I feel SO bad for the people who had psych meds forced on them. It's so dystopian.

The way the world views depression and how forced commitment is considered okay is my #1 reason for being suicidal. Forced commitment is absolutely disgusting.

The modern world has made life so miserable and stressful, and depression is a valid reaction to it. Psychiatry exists for profit and thrives off of convincing its victims that there is something wrong with them for feeling bad or stressed; it is a billion-dollar industry that exists to profit from suffering and to keep people suffering for profit when they are convinced they have to keep buying meds instead of eliminating the roots of their problems. In fact, it tries to persuade its victims that there are no roots to their problems; that is the lie of the chemical imbalance theory. With that lie, they can force antidepressants more easily.

The world knows that if they were to make suicide legal and truly available or into a valid personal choice it truly is, they would lose half of their slave work forces and would stop generating billions from these practices, with the danger of capitalism falling apart since it depends on modern slavery for survival.


Here are some quotes that back me up:

"Hunter-gatherers seem to possess exceptional mental health (Thomas, 2006). This observation has led some researchers to believe that depression is a "disease of modernity" (Hidaka, 2012) due to its increased prevalence among wealthier modern populations. (Depression for Surviving Ancestral Hardships - OSF.)

The global antipsychotic drugs market size was valued at USD 16.14 billion in 2023. The market is projected to grow from USD 17.32 billion in 2024 to USD 26.48 billion by 2032, exhibiting a CAGR of 5.4% during the forecast period. (Fortune Business Insights.)

"There is no such thing as a 'chemical imbalance.' This phrase evolved largely as a means to market the antidepressant drugs but has been erroneously picked up by physicians as explanation why patients should take antidepressants forever." (Psychology Today.)

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Corporate mental health care is definitely a rabbit hole you don't want to go down.

 

[Artemisia]

I have to agree. It's absolutely disgusting how everything is pathologized and there you go, have some pills for it!
When I was a kid I was in deep depression due to my dear parents, who always saw me as a thing to be molded to their every expectation. Of course, I was in constant stress and couldn't sleep. Heavens forbid they'd ever see me as a person of my own or offer me any affection, so off to the psychiatrist! I was on Prozac at 14 and tried pretty much every garbage at the time.They did nothing to me, of course, as I have a good brain that remained fully aware of my unchanged circumstances.

Now I've been in pain for years while incompetents and not-give-a-damns knew very well how to suck my money while ignoring the severity of my problem. It started with a torn tendon and now my whole body is twisted and torn because of them. So what's the reasonable thing to do, the thing they're all very worried about? Of course it's forcing me to take antidepressants so that I can be calm and smiley and tame while accepting their incompetence. They don't know me!

 

[DoubleUp8]

That's excellent analysis. I'll read your posts. They also pretend they don't want you to ctb when they actually do. All the SSRI and other anti-depressant drugs list suicide as 1 of the main side effects. And the shit they get away with locking people up for merely thinking about suicide. Why isn't it obvious that locking people down in a horrible place without allowing you to properly shave or groom yourself in any way is not good for anyone's mental health. They have no incentive to really help anyone or provide valid treatment to anyone0 for anything. They don't need to. They have the proverbial captive audience. And if you really want to get pissed off look at the billing and see how much $$$$ they're making committing human rights violations

 

[biasedregret]

Psychiatry is a pretty absurd "profession" overall. And the best drugs (at least, ones that have decent effect sizes) weren't even developed specifically for psychiatry lol.

 

[Moniker]

I've been thinking about psychiatry and therapy these past few days. I can't shake this feeling that it's a total scam - same reasons as yours.

It's not even that subtle either. Had a negative experience with a therapist? Oh, you got one of the bad ones. Ask questions about why they cost so much? It's a systemic issue - not the psychiatrist's fault (as if they aren't part of that system!). Push back on anything they say to you? You're being a difficult patient, so now it's your fault for having a bad experience.

Honestly, I feel like people that defend pschyiatry just can't stomach the idea that paying thousands of dollars so some schmuck can hear you whine for an hour makes them a sucker.

 

[TaffyFlounder]

I have to agree. It's absolutely disgusting how everything is pathologized and there you go, have some pills for it!
When I was a kid I was in deep depression due to my dear parents, who always saw me as a thing to be molded to their every expectation. Of course, I was in constant stress and couldn't sleep. Heavens forbid they'd ever see me as a person of my own or offer me any affection, so off to the psychiatrist! I was on Prozac at 14 and tried pretty much every garbage at the time.They did nothing to me, of course, as I have a good brain that remained fully aware of my unchanged circumstances.

Now I've been in pain for years while incompetents and not-give-a-damns knew very well how to suck my money while ignoring the severity of my problem. It started with a torn tendon and now my whole body is twisted and torn because of them. So what's the reasonable thing to do, the thing they're all very worried about? Of course it's forcing me to take antidepressants so that I can be calm and smiley and tame while accepting their incompetence. They don't know me!

I honestly think in the USA, especially, it is strange for family to take care of family and that the only answer to any problem is "pills!" or "therapist!" when we as human beings evolved to depend on our families and their quality time for emotional stress discharge. It is horrible what they did to you at such a young age, especially your family ignoring your feelings. I can't imagine your pain.

 

[DoubleUp8]

Psychiatry is a pretty absurd "profession" overall. And the best drugs (at least, ones that have decent effect sizes) weren't even developed specifically for psychiatry lol.

Best drugs you're going to have a hard time getting. They want to give you the worst drugs. I tried to find lawyers to sue the bastards but have had no luck. I wish more trial lawyers would take the gamble to take them on. They might just find juries may award massive damage awards for human rights violations. The cocksuckers are so arrogant and smug because they think they're legally bulletproof. If no lawyers are gonna take em on, in effect they are

 

[RainyDaysGrapefruit]

I was raped and tortured in a psych ward, then told I was having false memories by my therapist. Yippee I guess

I was raped and tortured in a psych ward, then told I was having false memories by my therapist. Yippee I guess

id have done anything to have been given an ssri but the doctors said I was fine because my parents told them so. I wasn't even suicidal back then I just had some mild depression I could've been happy lol

 

[DoubleUp8]

I was raped and tortured in a psych ward, then told I was having false memories by my therapist. Yippee I guess

That's another thing they get away with. Whatever atrocities they commit while you're in their custody, they have plausible deniability. After all they're the learned professionals and you're just a crazy person.

 

[SaltedSnail]

Totally agree with your post OP. I took one anti-depressant pill and life has never been the same. Totally and irreversibly destroyed my brain.

 

[TaffyFlounder]

I was raped and tortured in a psych ward, then told I was having false memories by my therapist. Yippee I guess

id have done anything to have been given an ssri but the doctors said I was fine because my parents told them so. I wasn't even suicidal back then I just had some mild depression I could've been happy lol

That it absolutely insane. What a world. Omg. I am so sorry.

The fact that you just had mild depression and they did all that to you is absurd. I was recently threatened with being sent to the psych ward; that is so terrifying.

That's excellent analysis. I'll read your posts. They also pretend they don't want you to ctb when they actually do. All the SSRI and other anti-depressant drugs list suicide as 1 of the main side effects. And the shit they get away with locking people up for merely thinking about suicide. Why isn't it obvious that locking people down in a horrible place without allowing you to properly shave or groom yourself in any way is not good for anyone's mental health. They have no incentive to really help anyone or provide valid treatment to anyone0 for anything. They don't need to. They have the proverbial captive audience. And if you really want to get pissed off look at the billing and see how much $$$$ they're making committing human rights violations

I agree, especially in the USA. It has the most expensive but ineffective health care in the world; that is where I'm from. Thank you for wanting to read my posts but I think this might be one of my only posts, though, because I will try partial hanging tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. I just had my 1st attempt on June 17; this time I will secure my ligature better.

 

[bluedream]

Abuse, greed, and bad practice absolutely exists in the mental health field. i think its important to separate failures of the healthcare system caused by greed and failures cause by bad science. both exist, but the former is far more common these days.

the bit about chemical imbalances not existing is technically true. but misleading. there's definitely evidence that serotonin, dopamine, etc. have some relationship with depression, but we don't know if that's a deficiency, or a higher tolerance/decreased efficiency of those neurotransmitters. So we say "imbalance" because thats far easier than saying "this is a complex mess of factors related to chemicals in the brain, but we don't know exactly what those factors are in each case"

its true that we don't know exactly how antidepressants work. but we know they do. this is the case for many medications and treatments across the medical field.

 

[Timothy7dff]

Most of the professions in the world aren't needed. Imagine how many people would lose their jobs if everyone suddenly got healthy. They NEED sick people to profit in their business model.

 

[TaffyFlounder]

Psychiatry is so horrible in this world, and I truly think it does A LOT more harm than good because it is so profit-driven. I keep hearing how either those meds don't work, make the person feel empty, or make them addicted; even worse is that often they are forced on them. It is so infuriating how people talk about respecting bodily autonomy but then go back on their word whenever they feel like it. I feel SO bad for the people who had psych meds forced on them. It's so dystopian.

The way the world views depression and how forced commitment is considered okay is my #1 reason for being suicidal. Forced commitment is absolutely disgusting.

The modern world has made life so miserable and stressful, and depression is a valid reaction to it. Psychiatry exists for profit and thrives off of convincing its victims that there is something wrong with them for feeling bad or stressed; it is a billion-dollar industry that exists to profit from suffering and to keep people suffering for profit when they are convinced they have to keep buying meds instead of eliminating the roots of their problems. In fact, it tries to persuade its victims that there are no roots to their problems; that is the lie of the chemical imbalance theory. With that lie, they can force antidepressants more easily.

The world knows that if they were to make suicide legal and truly available or into a valid personal choice it truly is, they would lose half of their slave work forces and would stop generating billions from these practices, with the danger of capitalism falling apart since it depends on modern slavery for survival.


Here are some quotes that back me up:

"Hunter-gatherers seem to possess exceptional mental health (Thomas, 2006). This observation has led some researchers to believe that depression is a "disease of modernity" (Hidaka, 2012) due to its increased prevalence among wealthier modern populations. (Depression for Surviving Ancestral Hardships - OSF.)

The global antipsychotic drugs market size was valued at USD 16.14 billion in 2023. The market is projected to grow from USD 17.32 billion in 2024 to USD 26.48 billion by 2032, exhibiting a CAGR of 5.4% during the forecast period. (Fortune Business Insights.)

"There is no such thing as a 'chemical imbalance.' This phrase evolved largely as a means to market the antidepressant drugs but has been erroneously picked up by physicians as explanation why patients should take antidepressants forever." (Psychology Today.)

I would like to edit what I've wrote. New version:


Psychiatry is so horrible in this world, and I truly think it does A LOT more harm than good because it is so profit-driven. I keep hearing how either those meds don't work, make the person feel empty, or make them addicted; even worse is that often they are forced on them. It is so infuriating how people talk about respecting bodily autonomy but then go back on their word whenever they feel like it. I feel SO bad for the people who had psych meds forced on them. It's so dystopian.

The way the world views depression and how forced commitment is considered okay is my #1 reason for being suicidal. Forced commitment is absolutely disgusting. I was just recently threatened with forced commitment, my worst fear, and tried my first hanging attempt out of hatred.

It truly is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society.

The modern world has made life so miserable and stressful, and depression is a valid reaction to it. Psychiatry exists for profit and thrives off of convincing its victims that there is something wrong with them for feeling bad or stressed; it is a billion-dollar industry that exists to profit from suffering and to keep people suffering for profit when they are convinced they have to keep buying meds instead of eliminating the roots of their problems. In fact, it tries to persuade its victims that there are no roots to their problems; that is the lie of the chemical imbalance theory. While it is true that the chemical imbalance theory is complex, it was without a doubt pushed to market antidepressants.

I would also like to add that after they commit you, they make sure to squeeze as much money out of you once they get you into the mental hospitals. I've heard the treatment is always very poor.

It is true that after involuntary commitment discharges from psychiatric facilities, suicides statistically increase, which is due to violating people and their rights. No one deserves such sub-human "treatment."

The world knows that if they were to make suicide legal and truly available, or into a valid personal choice it truly is, they would lose half of their slave work forces and would stop generating billions from these practices, with the danger of capitalism falling apart since it depends on modern slavery for survival.


Here are some quick quotes that back me up:

"Hunter-gatherers seem to possess exceptional mental health (Thomas, 2006). This observation has led some researchers to believe that depression is a "disease of modernity" (Hidaka, 2012) due to its increased prevalence among wealthier modern populations. (Depression for Surviving Ancestral Hardships - OSF.)

The global antipsychotic drugs market size was valued at USD 16.14 billion in 2023. The market is projected to grow from USD 17.32 billion in 2024 to USD 26.48 billion by 2032, exhibiting a CAGR of 5.4% during the forecast period. (Fortune Business Insights.)

"There is no such thing as a 'chemical imbalance.' This phrase evolved largely as a means to market the antidepressant drugs but has been erroneously picked up by physicians as explanation why patients should take antidepressants forever." (Psychology Today.)

 

[johnmak]

I agree, the only reason I want to ctb is psychiatry and their pills. I took em when I had some stressful period bcs they were suppose to help. I got depression, akathisia and everyday suicidal thoughts instead, lost my job, intellect and feeling. How great is that

 

[katara]

I agree, the only reason I want to ctb is psychiatry and their pills. I took em when I had some stressful period bcs they were suppose to help. I got depression, akathisia and everyday suicidal thoughts instead, lost my job, intellect and feeling. How great is that

Luckily I didn't take the ones I was prescribed and threw them down the toilet after reading the side effects. I thought my mom was trying to make me sicker and the whole experience changed my life. When regular people struggle as teenagers they get love, support, attention, a vacation somewhere. I got yelled at and told to take experimental medication. It makes me so angry seeing people online act like having depression is fun, when most of them don't even have it. I couldn't even finish high school. I also had a reading issue but of course I was ignored, everything is always put on me to do the work by myself. I can't count on anyone for help.

 

[Bobsled96]

Just wanted to add too how annoying it is these idiots try to brainwash not just you but your family into thinking pills or just talking can solve anything. I want to die because I'm alone and always will be, and no pill has ever changed that, all they do is cause negative side effects I was never warned about.
It's all for profit and was never about helping anyone. Suicide holds only exist to give these scumbags free lab rats to test their experimental medications on and then charge them for the pleasure.
I've never once felt even a little better after talking to any crisis line, either. Useless. CTB is the only real answer if you know you can't ever have the life you want

 

[johnmak]

Luckily I didn't take the ones I was prescribed and threw them down the toilet after reading the side effects. I thought my mom was trying to make me sicker and the whole experience changed my life. When regular people struggle as teenagers they get love, support, attention, a vacation somewhere. I got yelled at and told to take experimental medication. It makes me so angry seeing people online act like having depression is fun, when most of them don't even have it. I couldn't even finish high school. I also had a reading issue but of course I was ignored, everything is always put on me to do the work by myself. I can't count on anyone for help.

That was probably a good decision. I mean

Just wanted to add too how annoying it is these idiots try to brainwash not just you but your family into thinking pills or just talking can solve anything. I want to die because I'm alone and always will be, and no pill has ever changed that, all they do is cause negative side effects I was never warned about.
It's all for profit and was never about helping anyone. Suicide holds only exist to give these scumbags free lab rats to test their experimental medications on and then charge them for the pleasure.
I've never once felt even a little better after talking to any crisis line, either. Useless. CTB is the only real answer if you know you can't ever have the life you want

Exactly. I mean, the worse part is that I was happy, really happy and had good life, loving girlfriend and everything. I felt good mentally, I just had some cortisol rush and typical stress response due to new job, collage etc. After those pills my life is a pure hell, pssd, akathisia, insomnia and I'm in a spiral of taking more and more meds to fix what other meds fucked and guess what - that only made me ten times worse. I was in rented apartment today to go with partial hanging, but I wasn't able to make it. I wish I could, bcs here is another night where I can't sleep and I'm pacing in my bed due to akathisia. Lovely f**king life, lovely f**king psychiatry

 

[Defenestration]

Thanks for the post

 

[real human being]

Luckily I didn't take the ones I was prescribed and threw them down the toilet after reading the side effects. I thought my mom was trying to make me sicker and the whole experience changed my life. When regular people struggle as teenagers they get love, support, attention, a vacation somewhere. I got yelled at and told to take experimental medication. It makes me so angry seeing people online act like having depression is fun, when most of them don't even have it. I couldn't even finish high school. I also had a reading issue but of course I was ignored, everything is always put on me to do the work by myself. I can't count on anyone for help.

I also made the call not to take them after doing research and reading people's experiences.

 

[johnmak]

I also made the call not to take them after doing research and reading people's experiences.

I wish I were like u. But I was like "doctor knows what he's doing". Well… yeah. But maybe it's for the better, I won't have to suffer from many diseases that old people suffer

 

[EternalHappiness]

Is there anyone here with PSSD? I don't have much to contribute to the general discourse on sasu - I don't have amorphous/ambient suicidal ideation, and I wouldn't describe my suicidal ideation as a symptom of mental illness. I'm living with an untreatable and unbearable physiological condition and my only means of no longer experiencing it is VIA suicide. Is there anyone else here, either with PSSD or another debilitating chronic illness/disease, that is considering suicide for this reason?

 

[Defenestration]

Is there anyone here with PSSD? I don't have much to contribute to the general discourse on sasu - I don't have amorphous/ambient suicidal ideation, and I wouldn't describe my suicidal ideation as a symptom of mental illness. I'm living with an untreatable and unbearable physiological condition and my only means of no longer experiencing it is VIA suicide. Is there anyone else here, either with PSSD or another debilitating chronic illness/disease, that is considering suicide for this reason?

What IS suicide by VIA please?