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mx5nb3

"The opposite of depression is vitality"-A.S. Tedx
Jun 10, 2020
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I am going the SN route, and I will be updating symptoms real time. I wont have time to completely wipe my phone or any of that. Should I drop my phone in the toilet when I feel I am about to faint? (ill be locking myself in the bathroom of a hotel room). I want to ensure that they cant trace anything back to the Sanctioned community.
 
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EmbraceOfTheVoid

Part Time NEET - Full Time Suicidal
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Why? The government is fully aware that this site exists and others like it. This website NEEDS to be on the spotlight and so does the topic of suicide but from OUR perspective, not from a pro-life perspective or nothing will ever change.

Websites like these don't need your protection; they are on the dark web for a reason.
 
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mx5nb3

"The opposite of depression is vitality"-A.S. Tedx
Jun 10, 2020
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Why? The government is fully aware that this site exists and others like it. This website NEEDS to be on the spotlight and so does the topic of suicide but from OUR perspective, not from a pro-life perspective or nothing will ever change.
I'd wager that there's more brainwashed, normie, pro-lifer people than there are open minded, supportive ones. I believe that when the attention of this site increases, more risks become involved. I fear that if this site went "mainstream", we would probably have to deal with pro-lifers on every thread, amongst other concerns like edgy 12year olds that just want to say things for the hell of it. However I do agree that the topic of suicide from our perspective should be shared. Just dont want to risk burning the little resources we have.
 
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It's really up to you. And how you feel about it. I wouldn't worry about the site, they have protection.
 
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mx5nb3

"The opposite of depression is vitality"-A.S. Tedx
Jun 10, 2020
118
Why? The government is fully aware that this site exists and others like it. This website NEEDS to be on the spotlight and so does the topic of suicide but from OUR perspective, not from a pro-life perspective or nothing will ever change.

Websites like these don't need your protection; they are on the dark web for a reason.
Is it really the dark web, though? All you have to do to gain access is search the website name and it pops right up, granting access to view everything on it, unless you want to interact.
 
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autumnal

autumnal

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Feb 4, 2020
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I am going the SN route, and I will be updating symptoms real time. I wont have time to completely wipe my phone or any of that. Should I drop my phone in the toilet when I feel I am about to faint? (ill be locking myself in the bathroom of a hotel room). I want to ensure that they cant trace anything back to the Sanctioned community.

Just on the technical side, dropping your phone in water is definitely not a guarantee that the data on it will be wiped anyway.

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Websites like these don't need your protection; they are on the dark web for a reason.

Yeah, not technically on the dark web. Just presumably hosted in a jurisdiction where the laws are more relaxed and they don't respond to takedown notices from other countries.
 
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mx5nb3

"The opposite of depression is vitality"-A.S. Tedx
Jun 10, 2020
118
Just on the technical side, dropping your phone in water is definitely not a guarantee that the data on it will be wiped anyway.



Yeah, not technically on the dark web. Just presumably hosted in a jurisdiction where the laws are more relaxed and they don't respond to takedown notices from other countries.
Yeah, you are probably right. I suppose my single case won't generate much noise, if any at all. And that's if they even go through my Incognito records(not sure how they would, I think its secure?) to find it. Anyway, I want to thank you Autumnal for your factual, to the point responses in this community. People like you are much needed, and when I see your comments on threads, they are always helpful. Thank you for your contributions.
 
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SuiSqueeze92

SuiSqueeze92

Self Saboteur
Jan 15, 2020
479
I'm lost on the "open minded-ness" ... that goes against the narrative... how dare you.
 
mx5nb3

mx5nb3

"The opposite of depression is vitality"-A.S. Tedx
Jun 10, 2020
118
Nothing to elaborate..
I wont accept a bs answer without clarification. Please, explain. Why did you write "how dare you"? What have I done wrong, SuiSqueeze92?

No response, I suppose you'd like to retract your statement? No hard feelings. Just try not to step on people's toes in the future, as you may eventually run into someone who isn't so kind.
 
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SuiSqueeze92

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Jan 15, 2020
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I wont accept a bs answer without clarification. Please, explain. Why did you write "how dare you"? What have I done wrong, SuiSqueeze92?

No response, I suppose you'd like to retract your statement? No hard feelings. Just try not to step on people's toes in the future, as you may eventually run into someone who isn't so kind.

Goddamn nobody here can understand sarcasm. I saw the bashing of "what's his name" simply because his English was shit and he had beliefs that go against the grain..

Don't fucking come at me, I have a life outside this forum believe it or not... sorry I didn't respond to your command on request.

Fuck people's feelings though, I'm honest and brash... don't like it? Don't respond. Simple as that.
 
mx5nb3

mx5nb3

"The opposite of depression is vitality"-A.S. Tedx
Jun 10, 2020
118
Goddamn nobody here can understand sarcasm. I saw the bashing of "what's his name" simply because his English was shit and he had beliefs that go against the grain..

Don't fucking come at me, I have a life outside this forum believe it or not... sorry I didn't respond to your command on request.

Fuck people's feelings though, I'm honest and brash... don't like it? Don't respond. Simple as that.
We all have a life outside of this forum. For many of us, it is bleak and painful. I dont wish to "come at you", or start conflict. I just recommend that you clarify responses so they are not misunderstood. Perhaps next time you could quote, or reply to "what's his name" directly to express your disagreement. I couldn't tell who you were referring to, and I still can't.. anyway. Best of luck, I hope that you find peace.
 
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SuiSqueeze92

Self Saboteur
Jan 15, 2020
479
We all have a life outside of this forum. For many of us, it is bleak and painful. I dont wish to "come at you", or start conflict. I just recommend that you clarify responses so they are not misunderstood. Perhaps next time you could quote, or reply to "what's his name" directly to express your disagreement. I couldn't tell who you were referring to, and I still can't.. anyway. Best of luck, I hope that you find peace.

I choose how transparent I want to be... I'm not fucking stupid I just didn't want to write shit, mmmkay? Caught me on a night where I don't give a fuck. Bad luck.. sorry? Lol
 
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RedShoes

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Aug 8, 2019
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Is it really the dark web, though? All you have to do to gain access is search the website name and it pops right up, granting access to view everything on it, unless you want to interact.


The wiki is deep web as, AFAIK anyway, you cannot directly access it from Google or other search engines.
 
autumnal

autumnal

Enlightened
Feb 4, 2020
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mx5nb3 said:​
Is it really the dark web, though? All you have to do to gain access is search the website name and it pops right up, granting access to view everything on it, unless you want to interact.​

The wiki is deep web as, AFAIK anyway, you cannot directly access it from Google or other search engines.

Deep web dark web :smiling:
 
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Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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I'd wager that there's more brainwashed, normie, pro-lifer people than there are open minded, supportive ones. I believe that when the attention of this site increases, more risks become involved. I fear that if this site went "mainstream", we would probably have to deal with pro-lifers on every thread, amongst other concerns like edgy 12year olds that just want to say things for the hell of it. However I do agree that the topic of suicide from our perspective should be shared. Just dont want to risk burning the little resources we have.
Yes there could be a problem with brainwashed normies, pro-lifers coming onboard, but as we have mods and staff around, they could ban those people and keep them from causing trouble. As for the edgy 12-year olds and teens, well, as per rules of this forum/site, they would be denied entry (sure they could lie about their age, but they would be caught quickly and then banned immediately) onto this forum.
 
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Anonymoussn

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May 12, 2020
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The wiki is deep web as, AFAIK anyway, you cannot directly access it from Google or other search engines.
It can be accessed via Google in the UK. It's how I found the site, and I've just tried it again and it works fine. Guessing it must be different in some other places though.
 
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tricksterstix

New Member
Jun 25, 2020
2
The wiki is deep web as, AFAIK anyway, you cannot directly access it from Google or other search engines.
In the US you can that's how I found this originally. You just get a message about suicide prevention then if you scroll down you see it.
 
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MaisieWilliamsLover

MaisieWilliamsLover

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Jun 27, 2020
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Goddamn nobody here can understand sarcasm. I saw the bashing of "what's his name" simply because his English was shit and he had beliefs that go against the grain..

Don't fucking come at me, I have a life outside this forum believe it or not... sorry I didn't respond to your command on request.

Fuck people's feelings though, I'm honest and brash... don't like it? Don't respond. Simple as that.
I could tell immediately that this was simple sarcasm. Lmao.
 
Baguette

Baguette

Member
Jun 28, 2020
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I am going the SN route, and I will be updating symptoms real time. I wont have time to completely wipe my phone or any of that. Should I drop my phone in the toilet when I feel I am about to faint? (ill be locking myself in the bathroom of a hotel room). I want to ensure that they cant trace anything back to the Sanctioned community.
Just close the tab of this site on your phone and delete your search history, that's what I'm going to do.
It can be accessed via Google in the UK. It's how I found the site, and I've just tried it again and it works fine. Guessing it must be different in some other places though.
Only if you type in "sanctioned suicide" but if you type in "pro choice suicide forums" it doesn't show up. Although if I use DuckDuckGo it does show up just by typing in "suicide forums", more deep web than dark web.
 
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autumnal

autumnal

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Feb 4, 2020
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I'm not sure what the condescending point about deep web =/= dark web is about tbh. But well done...
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The other misunderstood what you were trying to say .. and well, yep.

My response was not condescension. On first impression, the terms 'deep web' and 'dark web' were referred to seemingly indiscriminately (admittedly between two different members), and I was simply clarifying that they had totally different meanings although are often confused. Both the briefness of my post and the emoji were supposed to show that this was a tiny sidebar of a tip rather than a derailment of the thread into a computer lesson (or indeed into this current explanation!).

On subsequent rereading today, it would seem that @mx5nb3 perhaps had a misunderstanding of what 'dark web' meant, and @RedShoes used the term 'deep web' correctly. So if anyone took offence to my tip being given when it did not apply to them, my apologies.
 
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On subsequent rereading today, it would seem that @mx5nb3 perhaps had a misunderstanding of what 'dark web' meant, and @RedShoes used the term 'deep web' correctly. So if anyone took offence to my tip being given when it did not apply to them, my apologies.
No one in this thread, accept you, misunderstood anything.
Embraceofthevoid referred to this site being on the dark web. Mx5nb3 then questioned this saying he can access the site by its name. And then Redshoes stated that he thought the wiki is on deep web and he cannot access it thru a simple google search. The only misunderstanding here is SS and wiki. And then your infographic which has been explained that they come across as "a negative message" to most readers, in this case, felt condescending, started a discussion on who and how can reach this site.
Why? The government is fully aware that this site exists and others like it. This website NEEDS to be on the spotlight and so does the topic of suicide but from OUR perspective, not from a pro-life perspective or nothing will ever change.

Websites like these don't need your protection; they are on the dark web for a reason.
Is it really the dark web, though? All you have to do to gain access is search the website name and it pops right up, granting access to view everything on it, unless you want to interact.
The wiki is deep web as, AFAIK anyway, you cannot directly access it from Google or other search engines.
 
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autumnal

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No one in this thread, accept you, misunderstood anything.
Embraceofthevoid referred to this site being on the dark web. Mx5nb3 then questioned this saying he can access the site by its name. And then Redshoes stated that he thought the wiki is on deep web and he cannot access it thru a simple google search. The only misunderstanding here is SS and wiki. And then your infographic which has been explained that they come across as "a negative message" to most readers, in this case, felt condescending, started a discussion on who and how can reach this site.

Thanks for clearing up the chronology of this. If I was the only one who misunderstood, I apologise to anyone who may have been offended at the suggestion they didn't know the difference between those two computing terms.
 
Caspers

Caspers

Lost
Jun 23, 2020
403
Just wipe your search history and delete every email that contains key words like 'suicide', 'depression' etc. Or if you want to go overboard you could do a factory reset, but that would suck if you failed
 
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Feb 4, 2020
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Just wipe your search history and delete every email that contains key words like 'suicide', 'depression' etc. Or if you want to go overboard you could do a factory reset, but that would suck if you failed

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A factory reset often does not completely wipe the data from a device. Similar to file deletion on a computer, all it does is make the space taken up by your data available for future overwriting. To securely clear any device, you need to securely wipe it, typically involving the deletion of data and the repeated overwriting of the space used by random data. It is easy to find programs that do this.
 
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Caspers

Lost
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iu
A factory reset often does not completely wipe the data from a device. Similar to file deletion on a computer, all it does is make the space taken up by your data available for future overwriting. To securely clear any device, you need to securely wipe it, typically involving the deletion of data and the repeated overwriting of the space used by random data. It is easy to find programs that do this.

Did I once say it would completely wipe the device? No I did not, so please don't write a passive aggressive reply, I was just trying to help them out.
 
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autumnal

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Did I once say it would completely wipe the device? No I did not, so please don't write a passive aggressive reply, I was just trying to help them out.

Easy there, champ! There was nothing 'passive-aggressive' about the reply. And you did seem to imply it would completely wipe [1] the device, because you referred to a factory reset as going 'overboard' compared to just deleting e-mails. Plus you said a factory reset would suck if they changed their mind about suicide, presumably implying it would suck because it permanently deleted all of their data which they would want to have when continuuing their life.

[1] Just to clarify in case your attitude comes from a place of genuine misunderstanding, my reference to completely wiping the device was referring only to completely wiping the user data on the device. That is, personal information created by the user since getting the device brand new. For our example, this would be various e-mails, files and browser history pertaining to suicide. I wasn't suggesting that your method (factory reset) would wipe all of the data, such as system files, information in ROM etc, and leave the device blank. I was merely stating that your belief seemed to be that factory reset would return the device back to the pristine, untouched state it was in when brand new. But, as I very politely and non-offensively stated, that is not actually what occurs behind the scenes, and the misconception that it does can be a risky one for data security.

BTW, here is a useful tip for determining whether something is intended as passive-aggressive. Identify the paragraph in question, try rewording any perceived passive-aggression into actual overt aggression, and see if that intended meaning by the writer seems in any way plausible to you.

So for example with my response, an overtly aggressive (and totally hypothetical) rewording might be:

Good one, idiot! A factory reset often does not completely wipe the data from a device. Similar to file deletion on a computer, all it does is make the space taken up by your data available for future overwriting. To securely clear any device, you need to securely wipe it, typically involving the deletion of data and the repeated overwriting of the space used by random data. It is easy to find programs that do this.​

Now ask yourself, do you think I quoted your explanation and posted my own tip next to an information symbol icon because it was a passive, convoluted way of calling you an idiot? The answer is very clearly no, incidentally. This method obviously isn't foolproof, because if someone is defensive and paranoid enough, they will see whatever they want to see regardless of how it is conveyed. But I'm genuinely hopeful you don't fall into that category.
 
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@autumnal I understand you feel the need to ensure absolute exact and precise information is dolled out in this forum and won't hesitate to correct anyone. However, using your own verbiage, 'seem to imply' and 'presumably implying', I will concur with @Caspers that the use of the caution symbol and the underlined bolded words, feels passive aggressive as if you're yelling, STOP! Don't listen to that user, they are wrong and their information is invalid! How the message is delivered does seems to imply passive aggressiveness.
What's funny is the example reply you gave without the "good one idiot" was actually a much better worded response and without the ! Symbol would have been received without any malcontent. .
Ask yourself, it's not what you intend, but is it being perceived this way often?
 
TheEndIsNigh31

TheEndIsNigh31

Madness is like gravity all you need is a lil push
Jul 13, 2020
65
I couldn't give a shit if people searched through my history but thats me. Just see what I've put and actually believe that I wanted this and was a good choice.

But thats me.

Plus this site will always get stick for being a pro choice yet they don't realise that 1 we don't care what they think and 2 its our life our choice
 
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