Venting Pro-lifers Are Sadomasochistic Pro-prison, Pro-torture, and Pro-slavery.

[Daxter_87]

Fucking anti-suicide, sadistic, masochistic society of lunatics who don't allow people to kill themselves with the ease of a glass of Nembutal, all because they want everyone to remain a slave, to work, to consume, to buy medicines, treatments, and equipment, whatever the fuck it is. Now I'm fucked up here because my parents gave birth to me, but I can't even kill myself easily. We are being denied the most basic human right. THIS IS CRIMINAL, ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL. People have to jump, throw themselves on trains, starve themselves to death. The situation is really fucked up beyond words, we've been born into a worldwide cult - the cult of pro-lifers. And the saddest thing is that the only people who know this, the only people who can do anything about it, are often either too disabled to do anything about it, or they are bystanders. I hate to say it, but it's true. I'm probably somewhere in the middle of both categories - I'm an absolutely broken mess, but maybe I could do a bit more; if so, I accept the blame. Anyone who could do something about it, but doesn't, should at least accept the blame. As I said, disabled people don't fall into this category, because they suffer enough in their hellish, nightmarish existence.

Now I have to go. It's 1:30 in the morning, and I haven't even started my hygiene routine. What a wonderful life...

 

[picklealex]

I couldn't agree more, we were born into a life of torture and slow death because of them. ending my life is way harder because of them. we can't end our life peacefully because they refuse to let us.

 

[hikikomorizombie]

i honestly don't get it, if they legalize suicide then privatize it they'll make a shitton of $. it'd also help w overpopulation. i just think that the majority of ppl have a savior complex tbh. + we'll never be able to make any real progress on how society views suicide when religion's still as prevalent as it is.

 

[divinemistress36]

I feel this post so much

 

[Hollowman]

i honestly don't get it, if they legalize suicide then privatize it they'll make a shitton of $. it'd also help w overpopulation. i just think that the majority of ppl have a savior complex tbh. + we'll never be able to make any real progress on how society views suicide when religion's still as prevalent as it is.

There's way more money to be made off of keeping people alive for as long as possible.

 

[FuneralCry]

It really is so disgusting and hellish how we cannot all just cease existing in a peaceful way, I absolutely despise this evil anti-suicide society where humans get obsessed with making others suffer for as long as possible.
To me it'd be such a relief to be able to access nembutal, it's horrifying how all the methods are either risky or inaccessible even know we are just waiting around to die anyway in this cruel and futile existence where there is endless potential for suffering and torment.
Only non-existence is desirable to me which is why I see denying people the option of a peaceful exit as being very evil, I just wish for the peace of an eternal sleep where all is finally forgotten about

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I wish you were wrong but unfortunately you aren't and they even admit it themselves. Of course they don't think that they're advocating for slavery because we apparently get to choose whether we can slave our lives away (of course if we 'choose' not to, we get screwed over with homelessness so, in essence, a lot of us only really go through work because of compulsion rather than choice).

Also, I remember back when I was in high school and going through history class, they showed a video talking about how humans have fought so hard to get all of the rights and so forth. However, back then, all I could think about was that there's one thing that should be a human right that isn't, getting access to a peaceful suicide method. Actually, even dying itself cannot be considered a right as, when you get caught with doing a suicide attempt, you get involuntarily locked in a mental hospital. This is basically equivalent to getting caught with a crime and getting sent to jail

Hopefully people in the future can genuinely have the right to die but it'll take so long to get there, if it even happens, to where I can only feel sorry for those who want to die a peaceful death but can't because of people restricting peaceful methods

 

[Morte]

The people behind the curtain don't want us to die, they want us to spend money on therapies and medicine. Even if you don't have the money for it, you're still a consumer simply because you're alive. Nobody cares about us, everything revolves around money.

 

[Forever Sleep]

i honestly don't get it, if they legalize suicide then privatize it they'll make a shitton of $. it'd also help w overpopulation. i just think that the majority of ppl have a savior complex tbh. + we'll never be able to make any real progress on how society views suicide when religion's still as prevalent as it is.

I don't think it's just about money though. The majority of people are likely pro-life. Not many relatives or loved ones would be thrilled at the prospect of a person they knew getting assisted suicide. Most especially if they can't see what's wrong with them. They may be slightly more sympathetic towards those terminally or chronically ill because they are able to witness the pain they're in.

But overall- I doubt there is overwhelming public support for it. I think the 'saviour complex' comment is fair but I think it's because those people side with the bereaved loved ones left behind after a person dies. After all- it seems more likely that would be them in that scenario.

Put it this way- a while back, I ran a poll to see whether- if assisted suicide was available, did people here think their families would support them in their decision? Just 7% of voters thought they would... They aren't going to bring in legislation that sees voting parents take to the streets protesting that their children are at risk of being legally killed without their knowledge. It just doesn't seem realistic. At most, I think we will start to see it being legalised for the terminally/chronically ill.

Poll: If assisted suicide was legalised- would your family support your decision- do you think?

So- if assisted suicide was made available to everyone- no questions asked. Would you inform your family of your wishes before you did it for starters? Do you think they would support you in your wishes- could you make them understand do you suppose? I've split the pole into two- young adults...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Daxter_87]

I don't think it's just about money though. The majority of people are likely pro-life. Not many relatives or loved ones would be thrilled at the prospect of a person they knew getting assisted suicide. Most especially if they can't see what's wrong with them. They may be slightly more sympathetic towards those terminally or chronically ill because they are able to witness the pain they're in.

But overall- I doubt there is overwhelming public support for it. I think the 'saviour complex' comment is fair but I think it's because those people side with the bereaved loved ones left behind after a person dies. After all- it seems more likely that would be them in that scenario.

Put it this way- a while back, I ran a poll to see whether- if assisted suicide was available, did people here think their families would support them in their decision? Just 7% of voters thought they would... They aren't going to bring in legislation that sees voting parents take to the streets protesting that their children are at risk of being legally killed without their knowledge. It just doesn't seem realistic. At most, I think we will start to see it being legalised for the terminally/chronically ill.

Poll: If assisted suicide was legalised- would your family support your decision- do you think?

So- if assisted suicide was made available to everyone- no questions asked. Would you inform your family of your wishes before you did it for starters? Do you think they would support you in your wishes- could you make them understand do you suppose? I've split the pole into two- young adults...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Yes, money is a big part of it, but not everything. We are slaves to governments, corporations, etc., but the pro-life people around us wouldn't like the idea of us dying either. Of course, this is extremely selfish behavior on their part - to force a person in pain to endure a life of suffering, not for their sake, but for yours, for your emotional stability, because you're attached to them, and you want them around at all costs.

I am reminded of one of my two dogs who died last year. The last part of her life was a living hell. She had a tumor, but only my mother and I saw the sense, the compassion, to let her die. Everyone else in the house was reluctant to euthanize her, saying things like: "But how do you know when it's the right time?" The right time is when she is suffering. Period. She was very old, so what did they think was going to happen anyway? A magical improvement out of the blue? We let her suffer, we waited until she could barely move, and only then did they agree - sort of begrudgingly - to finally put her to sleep.

The point is, if they're so reluctant to euthanize a clearly suffering, dying animal because they're too attached to it, imagine how reluctant they would be to euthanize a suffering human being, let alone one whose pain, as you said, is outwardly invisible. People are just extremely selfish...

P.S. My family would hate me if they saw me writing this.

 

[sammiechzxv]

I wouldn't say pro slavery but yeah

 

[TheDruBo]

Yes, it should be like Soylent Green, with euthanasia centers in every town and city, and the only questions they ask are: 'What's your favorite color?' and 'What's your favorite music?'