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LittleJem

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I noticed this was already posted earlier in December, but thought it was worth a repost as reading this, it turns out you can overdose on Poppy Seed Tea. Here's a recipe which gives the health warning ;) I guess this is less dangerous than Fentanyl and don't know how it compares to heroin overdose?:

 
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chrijo

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Poppy seeds contain far too little alkaloids. Personally, I don't think that's enough for a lethal OD but that's just my opinion.

The danger of heroin is due to the permeability of the blood brain barrier. This makes heroin much more effective than morphine. Especially intravenously.
 
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LittleJem

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It looks possible - with unwashed poppy seeds
 
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Birthinjune

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Bumping this thread.
Has anyone tried this method? What was your experience?

I was trying to research online and could not find any intentional (only accidental) overdoses of people drinking poppy seed tea. It seems like isn't a reliable method because the strength of the seeds aren't guarenteed. Drug content can vary widely even within the same batch.

This method of ODing seems appealing because it's accessible and easy to make. I've read Erowid reports of people drinking the tea for recreation/ pain management, and most are overwhelmingly positive. Some experience nausea and stomach pains, but most of the complaints are they were too high/high for too long. There are some stories of accidental ODs, where the person felt themselves nodding out and eventually just blacked out and went to sleep.

I feel to compensate for the unknown strength one could do a test batch to approximate how much you would need. One could also just use a lot of seeds (3lbs/1350grams?) to guarentee the strength you'd need to OD.

I read through some old threads, one user stated they took 600g and slept for 30 hours. Has anyone else tried or heard of someone who was successful?
 
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lobster salad

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I am seriously looking into this method as sn is very inaccessible in my country, do peony poppy flower seeds do the job? Or is there a specific poppy seed type I have to look for? If I can't use this method I'll probably have no choice but to jump :/
 
Birthinjune

Birthinjune

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I am seriously looking into this method as sn is very inaccessible in my country, do peony poppy flower seeds do the job? Or is there a specific poppy seed type I have to look for? If I can't use this method I'll probably have no choice but to jump :/
The specific type is unwashed Papaver somniferum seeds. There's lots of instructions how to make the tea online and in this forum that vary a little bit. Reddit has a thorough FAQ to understand how it works/how to prepare it along with user experiences https://www.reddit.com/r/PoppyTea/wiki/faq
 
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ClairyFairy

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Those seeds are out of stock for UK sale on amazon. This would be my cup of tea, pun intended. How do you know if they're the right ones
 
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Aap

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This is a ridiculous method in terms of reliability. Brewing poppy tea isn't new and has been used for many, many years. For anything approaching reliability, papaverine somniferum dried pods are what opioid users use.
 
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LittleJem

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Poppy seeds are the edible nutritious seeds of the opium poppy (Papaver somniferum). The opium poppy is, of course, the source of opium as well as heroin, morphine, and codeine. Although the seeds themselves do not contain opiates, they are frequently contaminated with morphine residue during harvesting. Processing removes much of this residue, but it's not uncommon for trace amounts to remain. Thus, depending on how many poppy seeds were eaten, their country of origin, and the test used, consumption of poppy seeds can indeed cause a urine drug test to register positive for opiates. There are numerous anecdotes of a single poppy-seed-encrusted bagel being enough to cause someone to fail a drug test, and convicts on parole are often forbidden from eating poppy seeds altogether.

Poppy Seed Availability​

In the United States, poppy plants are considered a Schedule II controlled substance with the exception of the seeds, which are legal to purchase and have been popular for many decades in baking. Poppy seeds are also available for legal purchase in Australia, Canada, and many other countries. In New Zealand, large bags of poppy seeds can be obtained from the supermarket and are relatively inexpensive [2]. Amazon, eBay, and Etsy, major online stores serving customers within and outside of the US, offer poppy seeds for sale. A popular large health and wellness site (Mercola.com) recommends poppy seed tea for pain control and recipes appear there and on ChewTheWorld.com (neither of these sites sell poppy seeds). The website FoodtoLive.com sells different varieties of poppy seeds (identified by origin: English, Australian, Spanish) for $9.99 to $17.98 a pound. The website PoppySeedTeaRecipe.com advertises poppy seeds from California as a "homemade high" and offers a pound of unwashed poppy seeds for $25.99. The website thenoddingturtle.biz sells European and Tasmanian "unwashed" poppy seeds with prices available upon e-mail request, as discounts may apply if a buyer opts for 10 lb or more. Poppy seeds are also sold on this site as an exfoliant. SincerelyNuts.com sells a variety of foodstuffs, including poppy seeds for $11.99 lb (English), $7.99 a pound (Dutch), or $4.99 a pound (Spanish). This site does not discuss poppy seed tea. OpiumPoppySeeds.com sells opium seeds to grow poppies.
 
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As much as I often encourage using methods that are outside the box, I don't think that poppy seed tea is very reliable. Honestly... I considered trying that method in the past, but with all the variability in alkaloid content, how quickly you can build a tolerance for it, or that you'll have to be using a huge amount... I just abandoned it altogether. But, good luck if you think you can manage this. What I will advise is using something potent to potentiate the CNS effects.
 
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NeverGoodEnuff

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A family member has poppies growing in her garden. She is very knowledgeable horticulturally. She said those poppies are not the kind that provide drugs. They are, however, very beautiful in bloom.
 
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Aap

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There is one type that produces significant alkaloid content. I've listed it in this thread.
 
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Johnjohn1

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I am a chronic pain patient with my Levaquin antibiotic nerve and tendon damage in my lyme disease. Is there a website that sells authentic poppy seeds for making tea to help with chronic pain?
 
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I see you didn't bother to read the thread
 
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As much as I often encourage using methods that are outside the box, I don't think that poppy seed tea is very reliable. Honestly... I considered trying that method in the past, but with all the variability in alkaloid content, how quickly you can build a tolerance for it, or that you'll have to be using a huge amount... I just abandoned it altogether. But, good luck if you think you can manage this. What I will advise is using something potent to potentiate the CNS effects.
Adding benzos or alcohol would probably be enough to induce respiratory depression. Or better yet, add both.
 
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notreallynow

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I seriously doubt this would do anything besides induce some nasty constipation. Oral bioavailability of opiates is not great. I failed with around 150mg morphine sulfate and I'm a very small, opiate naive woman. Didn't even have to get any treatment.
 
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DetachedDreamer97

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Adding benzos or alcohol would probably be enough to induce respiratory depression. Or better yet, add both.
Probably switch the ethyl (drinking) alcohol with tert-amyl alcohol (2m2b). It's 20 times as potent with a longer half life, without the hangover or unwanted effects produced bh ethanol.
 
RubberMan

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Probably switch the ethyl (drinking) alcohol with tert-amyl alcohol (2m2b). It's 20 times as potent with a longer half life, without the hangover or unwanted effects produced bh ethanol.
I'd avoid doing so if only so as to not rope the RC market into this. They have enough trouble to deal with as is.
 
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LittleJem

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Adding benzos or alcohol would probably be enough to induce respiratory depression. Or better yet, add both.
Do you think it would be peaceful to go this way? I would switch methods! My current one would be CO/Amitryptiline and Benzos. But if poppy tea is a nice way, then I would definitely consider that too.

Still fighting for now - but want my exit path!
 
GarageKarate07

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I noticed this was already posted earlier in December, but thought it was worth a repost as reading this, it turns out you can overdose on Poppy Seed Tea. Here's a recipe which gives the health warning ;) I guess this is less dangerous than Fentanyl and don't know how it compares to heroin overdose?:

Nice!
 
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I've tried this twice. The first time I didn't even lose consciousness. The second time I was unconscious for about 30 hours but obviously survived. There are documented cases of lethal overdoses so it's certainly possible to kill yourself this way, but I'd say it's a very unreliable method. Success depends entirely on what kind of poppy seeds you manage to obtain. Poppy pods are a more reliable method, but still unreliable, I think.
 
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I've tried this twice. The first time I didn't even lose consciousness. The second time I was unconscious for about 30 hours but obviously survived. There are documented cases of lethal overdoses so it's certainly possible to kill yourself this way, but I'd say it's a very unreliable method. Success depends entirely on what kind of poppy seeds you manage to obtain. Poppy pods are a more reliable method, but still unreliable, I think.
It's not so much the type of opiate, because obvs you could extract, it would just take knowledge and time. It's unlikely to work more because opiates have low oral bioavailability.
 
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if you are using opiate in the specific vs opioid, you are correct. However, from reading your post I don't think you are. Oxycodone has good oral bioavailability, especially compared to others.

As I mentioned earlier, poppy pods of a specific variety of poppy are the way to go. In the event any are wondering, these contain morphine and some codeine (and are obviously used for heroin production)
 
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AnnonyBox

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With more information I would be very interested in this method. It would be fairly poetic to go out from a cup of tea.
 
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I take poppy seed tea for recreation. I know some people have overdosed on it but I think that is rare. Better stick to something like Sodium Nitrite instead.
 
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amnotreal

amnotreal

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anyone ever try alcohol tincture of fresh poppy pods? or something like laudenum? i think part of the appeal to me is opiods are said to take away sadness and pain and then if a lower dose did that maybe i would be ok with staying alive i think this method would require a vacant lot and enough seasons to plant the seeds and wait for them to grow rather than tea.