Discussion Poll - Why do governments refuse to allow production of euthanasia drugs?

[liverpoolfan]

You can pick up to three answers.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

You can pick up to three answers.

Nope, you have to enable multiple choice.

 

[liverpoolfan]

Nope, you have to enable multiple choice.

I pressed 'Post' before I'd finished.

 

[Yomyom]

I don't believe that the government hate you, or want to make you miserable, or all the other conservative theories.

I do think that most people in the world believe that life is important in all cost, the value of life.
If I wasn't suicidal, I was protesting against suicide and voluntary death..

And let's don't forget that most people in world are religious or have other believes

 

[BigLucs]

None of the above. Its a lot simpler I think. Dead people cant pay taxes. Dead people do nothing for government while living people basically live to feed the government. Why would they let us die?

 

[BCas]

None of the above. Its a lot simpler I think. Dead people cant pay taxes. Dead people do nothing for government while living people basically live to feed the government. Why would they let us die?

That's probably under 'Keep the worker drones working.'

 

[terry_a_davis]

I voted 3, i think cause some have religious beliefs against it, some fear it could be misused, and some believe life should be preserved at all costs, and i think many of them have all 3 beliefs.

 

[BPD Barbie]

I voted for 'preserve life at all costs'. I have always thought that society feels the need to 'save' everyone. You read about these so called heroes who talked someone down from jumping off a bridge etc, for me, I feel like that's personal glory and their conscience clear, no real regard what happens to that person after or what life they have to continue to endure. I don't know why the world feels the need to 'save' everyone, I'm nobodies responsibility but my own.

 

[LoNatural]

We are just cattle for the elite, not different at all from other farm animals. We just have a different function, abstract work, but we'll also be disposed of once we are no longer useful.

 

[liverpoolfan]

That's probably under 'Keep the worker drones working.'

That's exactly right.

 

[enjolras]

We are just cattle for the elite, not different at all from other farm animals. We just have a different function, abstract work, but we'll also be disposed of once we are no longer useful.

If the analogy can be assumed, the treatment is way different (watch for the look in the mirror narrative by Joaquim Phoenix, not the horror pictures - multi-awarded documentary )


If the suffering was condemned, in the favor of self fulfilment goals ...not for every sensitive beings.

If life is valued, the filter is very selective. Why trigger wars onto others so compulsively.

To me, it all boils down about clan organisations, to assure motives of auto-preservation or opulence when madness kicks in. The higher values are sugar coating at the minority level generally, soon forgotten before a broad application.

Complementary, would it be sustainable to mass produce euthanasia drugs to treat the everlasting phenomenon of dying ? Not quite even an ecological poison ? Shouldn't it remain natural for most, exceptional for those who can't continue to live on ? There's plenty room for improvement. The heads of state should ease the models so people can improve their lives first.

 

[darkhorse256]

The only reason the government wants you alive is so they can profit off your misery. Because if you want to "stay alive", you'll have to work. That means you'll be paying your taxes and that would be beneficial to them. They don't care if you're miserable, they only want your money to line their pockets.

 

[NoSentimentality]

The only reason the government wants you alive is so they can profit off your misery. Because if you want to "stay alive", you'll have to work. That means you'll be paying your taxes and that would be beneficial to them. They don't care if you're miserable, they only want your money to line their pockets.

"Your money"?
They make the money.

 

[terry_a_davis]

I don't really buy into the government keeping people alive so they are forced to work and pay taxes. A fair proportion of people who are suicidal are also ill and/or are not working, are in receipt of benefits, and are not paying taxes and are thus a burden to the state if anything.
Even those that are working and suicidal will be a very small minority of people, losing their taxes will hardly make a dent in tax income.

 

[liverpoolfan]

Hint:

"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in this world.."
-Ovadia Yosef

&

"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers."
-John D. Rockefeller

Your antisemitism is noted, reviled and reported.

 

[Yomyom]

Hint:

"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in this world.."
-Ovadia Yosef

&

"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers."
-John D. Rockefeller

I wonder if you know to read Hebrew and you read or heard the lecture or you just decided to shared this cause you bored and need someone to hate

All I can say to you is if you want to know what he ment learn Hebrew, otherwise don't share things you're not understand in them

 

[alizee]

Delusional religious idiots are in power. People in real influential authority come from well off backgrounds and eat that nonsensical religious ideology up because they love their life. The sociopaths on the other hand that manipulated their way into power fear the worker drones committing suicide if given a humane option to die.

 

[Luchs]

I'd say that they fear a massive wave of suicides, once such drugs are easily accessible.

 

[NoSentimentality]

Your antisemitism is noted, reviled and reported.

My what? What is that?
I think you misunderstood perhaps, it was a quote.

 

[Walilamdzi]

My what? What is that?
I think you misunderstood perhaps, it was a quote.

I thought you were quoting as an example of a ruling class who want an underclass of worker drones as it were, not propagating that idea. Is this the misunderstanding?

 

[Yomyom]

My what? What is that?
I think you misunderstood perhaps, it was a quote.

"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in this world.."
-Ovadia Yosef

You quoted something that, first- doesn't have any meaning About what is actually done
And second it was a very partial quote, I wonder why

 

[SpareWheel]

They're fecking terrified of the droves of people who'd sign up for it. They have to keep people around, to sell prescription drugs too, to keep GPs busy, to have people so unhappy in life they don't mind standing in a factory for 45hrs a week just to keep their 1 bedroomed flat paid up.

I dread to think how many people would book a slot if it ever became legal in Britain, all around me wherever I go, I see desperately lonely and unhappy people just existing. They'd have to make it mandatory that you'd have to wait at least a year before going ahead with it, a cooling off period as it were, or the funeral directors of England would be inundated. There's also they'd make it so expensive only the very affluent could afford it, which is pretty much the case now anyway with the centres in Switzerland.

They don't even want us killing ourselves slowly now, gradually making drinking and smoking almost too expensive a luxury to enjoy and whittle a few years off with, they want all their worker bees happily buzzing away til retirement age at 67, by which time they don't care anymore and make sure you won't live long by giving you a measly pension that forces old people to choose between eating or heating in the winter. Whichever one you choose, missing the other will kill you.

 

[Yomyom]

Have you even read "The International Jew" by Henry Ford?

Or what The Talmud says about "gentiles"?

I know you are jewish, based on the hebrew on your profile, but you should read it regardless, perhaps your fervor isn't due to malignity, but rather ignorance.
Altough I wouldn't trust you in a million years, I suspect you'd know why.
These goys may be blind though.

"To determine who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"

In case I was Orthodox in my past and I learned on yeshiva, so please don't try to teach me about the Talmud or the gmara.

I have no problems answer this very silly questions that you can find this opinions on any religion
But Honestly, there is nothing more to talk about with a person who supports anti-Semitism, goodbye

 

[K-O]

@NoSentimentality @Yomyom
"RELIGION" IS OBV A WORLD WIDE V OLD WAY OF CONTROLLING PEOPLES MINDS.. ITS A CLASSIC POLITIC MANIPULATION - MOSTLY FOR SHEEPֱ
CONVENIENT INTERPRETATIONS OF BOOKS, KNOWLEDGE, OR HISTORY WRITTEN BY WINNERS ETC.. IS A TOOL FOR THE BULLY AND THEN PEOPLE GET SPOON FED AND THE PUPPETRY GOES ON AND ON..
SAME GOES FOR NEWS AND TV OR INTER WEB SHIT GOBBLING UP!
IN ORDER TO HAVE A REAL GENUINE INTERESTING VALID THOUGHT ABOUT ANYTHING- U HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT.. OR APROACH MATTERS AS A SCIANTIST AND EXPRESS YOUR SELF ACCORDINGLY..
TBH I FIND IT BORING AND REDUNDANT WITNESSING THESE KIND OF MISINTERPRETATIONS AND GENERALIZATION.. SHEEP ALERT!..
AND BTW I AM A V SECULAR PERSON AND A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF ONE OF FIRST MOST ACKNOWLEDGED KABBALISTS-
THERE ARE MUCH MORE INPORTANT THINGS TO GANE FROM "HOLY" BOOKS- LIKE SCIENCE AND GROWTH AND UNDERSTANDING NATURE BETTER- RATHER THAT SPOON FEEDING YOUR SELF WITH OTHERS INTENTIONS AND LITERATELY DOING WHAT U R TOLD..
BLIND HATE IS BORING TO THE BONE
X

 

[last_tour]

I think its modern societies reluctance to acknowledge that death is a part of life (we're all scared of death to some degree). We evolved to think this way maybe due to our culture and history in the west, we think we'll always win wars and our history and philosophy shaped the idea that death is a bad word, meanwhile eastern thought and religions are much more open to the idea of the cycle of living and dieing.

Anyways, our modern society wants to keep it out of sight and not think about it (if someone dies, tape is put up, the cleaning crew comes and covers the body, puts it in a body bag, and it gets sent off to be turned into ashes before anyone sees it). Now we are even censoring death, you won't see stuff like uncensored Vietnam war footage on the news, they don't want sites like this to exist on the internet, its like you aren't even allowed to have thoughts of the fact that you will die one day.

We've also got an overabundance of food and technolodgy right now (none of these will last though) so we can live longer than ever before. Theres an illusion being created that nobody dies, all diseases can be cured and we will live on forever. Its a delusion that goes against the laws of nature, everything eventually has to die some day. The human race itself is going to go extinct. Thats just how it is, but some people really think that won't happen and will go to great length to not let that happen (even if it causes a massive amount of suffering and death to others!). Even if you weren't suicidal you have to think about death at some point, but people just don't want to. You can ask my parents, they're both over 70, physically and mentally falling apart but legtimately think they'll live on forever, divorce and start new families , making plans to buy new expensive homes and live in paradise despite them going into debt and causing a ton of trouble. its funny.

 

[Arrow]

if they recognize our right to die the same way they recognize everyone's right to live, they are forced to admit we are actual human beings. if they admit we are really human beings, they lose power.

Dead people cant pay taxes.

also this.

 

[Bluesummers]

Because the world is not antinatalist and consider life as a gift, lol.

 

[Shero]

The pharmaceutical industry makes alot of money in keeping chronically or terminally ill people alive as long as possible.

 

[Oyoy]

Lad, you support Hitler.
You sent me three Nazi propaganda and anti semitic videos in PM. Then you complained to the mods and threatened with a ban when I told you to fuck off with that racist filth. I have screenshots of the initial PM and the official warning telling me to 'respect' you or face a ban.

And no I'm not Jewish but you don't have to be to hate Hitler, ffs. Dunno if you've ever been to Liverpool, lad, but we don't tolerate fascists round our way.

And if I actually get banned for saying 'Hitler was bad' and that people shouldn't PM members Nazi proganda videos, then this site needs to take a long hard look at itself.

You make Liverpool look.like heaven. From my experience many hateful people are not educated enough to know the word antisemitism.

 

[liverpoolfan]

You make Liverpool look.like heaven. From my experience many hateful people are not educated enough to know the word antisemitism.

It's hardly heaven mate. Just a working class town thats been fucked over by the Tories decade after decade. It's not rich, and it's got its share of shitholes and gangsters but we did produce the greatest band and football team of all time (and Everton) and it's been the only real stronglhold against right wing politics in England for the last 50 years.
Sorry but I still can't believe I got a warning to 'respect' someone peddling Hitler videos. Fucking fuming tbh.