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lomehedine

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Dec 28, 2019
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Dear forum,

i am new here so if I make any mistakes i humbly apologize. I've read the FAQ thoroughly though. I am asking the wise members of this forum for help in my next ctb attempt. My plan is to aquire a lethal dose of H and then plug in the forest where no one sees me. I am well aware of the better methods such as N, SN and so on.
I am new to H so i dont think i could IV it, which is why i consider pluggin. Since i am completly opoid naive a large enough dose should do it. If i can i will also aquire anti emetics and benzos.

Sadly on the internet theres not much usefull and detailed information, which is why i have compiled a few questions:

I am considering going with a half of a g of heroin and then immediatly shooting the other half afterwards. Since its rectal there should be a time limit for the upcoming.
Is it possible to plug so much H? Where would be problems? How much water would i need to use to liquify such a large dose? Especially here i need help, if never concocted a shot.

Do you guys have any recommendations for a good rectal syringe that can hold so much product? What would be the right size? The internet recommends 5ml syringes.
Also: some oral syringes come with an attached hose. Could i use that? Or would the rubber be a hindrance?

I hope i didnt annoy you guys with my specific questions. I wish you all the best for the new decade.
 
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I'm confused. You said you don't want to take it IV, but then you said you would shoot half of it ?
Is shooting it not the same thing as injecting it ?

There really is no need for anti emetics if you aren't taking anything orally .. and one shouldn't be taking either H or F orally to OD, as the absorption rate is very low.

Half a gram really is not a large amount - but it will depend on what type of H you get.. whether it is tar, or powder.
You only just need enough water for it to easily flow through the syringe... it doesn't need to be very dilute if it doesn't have to go through a small gauge needle.

If you have never given yourself an enema before, I would suggest a few practice runs with water to see how much liquid you can hold in . You really don't want to lose it before it can be absorbed.
Any syringe will work.... you can get oral syringes at drug stores that would work well.
There's no need for tubing of any kind - you only want to insert the syringe a few cms inside.
 
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I'm confused. You said you don't want to take it IV, but then you said you would shoot half of it ?
Is shooting it not the same thing as injecting it ?

There really is no need for anti emetics if you aren't taking anything orally .. and one shouldn't be taking either H or F orally to OD, as the absorption rate is very low.

Half a gram really is not a large amount - but it will depend on what type of H you get.. whether it is tar, or powder.
You only just need enough water for it to easily flow through the syringe... it doesn't need to be very dilute if it doesn't have to go through a small gauge needle.

If you have never given yourself an enema before, I would suggest a few practice runs with water to see how much liquid you can hold in . You really don't want to lose it before it can be absorbed.
Any syringe will work.... you can get oral syringes at drug stores that would work well.
There's no need for tubing of any kind - you only want to insert the syringe a few cms inside.
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Thanks for the answers! You're a great help for me. With shooting I meant shooting it up my bum haha. I'll increase to 1 gram then. Ill also drink lots of alcohol. Do you think that should do the trick? I am also doing all this in the winter outside. So that would also make me die while I am high, no?

But what if the oral syringe is to big? I guess I am going to get a real slim one. I hope I can dilute 1g...maybe citric acid will help.

What is stronger H? Tar or powder? Sorry that I ask stupid stuff I just really really want to die and not make stupid mistakes
 
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Thanks for the answers! You're a great help for me. With shooting I meant shooting it up my bum haha. I'll increase to 1 gram then. Ill also drink lots of alcohol. Do you think that should do the trick? I am also doing all this in the winter outside. So that would also make me die while I am high, no?

But what if the oral syringe is to big? I guess I am going to get a real slim one. I hope I can dilute 1g...maybe citric acid will help.

What is stronger H? Tar or powder? Sorry that I ask stupid stuff I just really really want to die and not make stupid mistakes

My plan is out in the mountains as well... hoping that the cold will help as a back up plan. With decreased heart rate, breathing, hypothermia should take hold a lot quicker.

Stronger H is based solely on how pure it is, where it's from and what it's cut with. Powder is much more likely to be cut with fentanyl, which is a bonus if od is your goal. Powder does not need to be mixed with citric acid.
It is very water soluble in powder form... the tar would have to be cooked with citric acid first.
Just enough water to be able to push it through a syringe is plenty.... 1g should dissolve in 1 or 2 ml of water.

If you do more than that at a time, it will take longer to absorb... and there's more chance of it not staying in
 
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I am thinking about this method via pluggin as well. I would not recommend doing this outside of the bed. If you happen to get high on H while cutting blood circulation of your leg / arm by wrong posture after shooting, your leg/arm might die off and it will be amputated if you get found. The best way is done on a bed. If you happen to survive, you will have been high the first time.
 
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I am thinking about this method via pluggin as well. I would not recommend doing this outside of the bed. If you happen to get high on H while cutting blood circulation of your leg / arm by wrong posture after shooting, your leg/arm might die off and it will be amputated if you get found. The best way is done on a bed. If you happen to survive, you will have been high the first time.

The same is true for any method that knocks you out.. whether it is CO or opiates.

If you plug, laying down isn't the best position to be in since you want that dose to remain in the very end of your anal canal.
If you want to be in bed, at least prop yourself into sitting position
 
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I'm thinking more and more this is how I'm going to CTB. With enough benzos and alcohol I don't see how you could go wrong. Here's a list of other drug interactions from Drugs.com. I was surprised gabapentin and Cymbalta were on the list, but there they were:


Here's a really in-depth article on plugging in case you haven't came across it. Mind you, it's not an article on CTB utilizing this method, but it definitely goes to great lengths to explain the details of how to pull this off. I'm thinking about going with 3.5 to 4 grams to be safe, so I have to figure out which size syringe to use. This guy seems pretty adament about using a 1 ml syringe, but I doubt that would hold so much H. Maybe a 3 or 5 ml. I'm not exactly a pro at this, so I have to figure some of this out myself. Hope it helps.

 
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The same is true for any method that knocks you out.. whether it is CO or opiates.

If you plug, laying down isn't the best position to be in since you want that dose to remain in the very end of your anal canal.
If you want to be in bed, at least prop yourself into sitting position

The problem I think might be the fact that when unconsciouss, the opiod might drip out in that position. People who plug Heroin often lay on their side as far as I know and that works.
 
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The problem I think might be the fact that when unconsciouss, the opiod might drip out in that position. People who plug Heroin often lay on their side as far as I know and that works.
I've read both laying on your side and sitting and it's pretty confusing to me. It seems like no matter which way you did it it would drip out while you were unconscious. Only one thing to do I guess, and that's practice with water. I've got plenty of benzos to knock me out, and syringes are no problem. Funny as it seems (since I'm a guy), I was thinking about trying one of my fiancee's panty liners to cause less of a mess, plus to help hold things in, and pull up my jeans over that. It seems like jeans would help hold it all in as well, especially if you were sitting up, but laying on your side makes a lot of sense too.
One thing's for sure, if the liner did help to keep things tidier the coroner would probably laugh his ass off. Not that I'd care, I'd just be the funniest guy in the morgue.

@lomehedine here's a thread NextSummer's that's good about this.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/heroine-od-ass-involved.23158/

@NextSummer , isn't gingerplum a nurse? I saw her replies. Seems like being a nurse she'd know better than most.
 
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The problem I think might be the fact that when unconsciouss, the opiod might drip out in that position. People who plug Heroin often lay on their side as far as I know and that works.

You use a minimal amount of water... just 1 or 2 mls. That way it will absorb a lot faster.
Your sphincter muscle is a fairly strong muscle and it's purpose is to keep things in, and it's pretty good at it's job.

Yes, if you basically give yourself an enema with a large volume of water, it's going to leak out... so... don't do that.
 
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@NextSummer , isn't gingerplum a nurse? I saw her replies. Seems like being a nurse she'd know better than most.

Yes, she is a nurse.

I don't think they will understand what happened. You won't die with the syringe up the ass. Plenty of time to take it out. They will think it was a injection as expected and search for the needle and wonder why it can't be found :)

You use a minimal amount of water... just 1 or 2 mls. That way it will absorb a lot faster.

The problem is, does 2g Heroin dissolve in just 1-2 mls of warm water?
 
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Yes, she is a nurse.

I don't think they will understand what happened. You won't die with the syringe up the ass. Plenty of time to take it out. They will think it was a injection as expected and search for the needle and wonder why it can't be found :)



The problem is, does 2g Heroin dissolve in just 1-2 mls of warm water?

I'm not too sure on that... I'm only taking .25 g because what I bought is not H.
It is a Fent analogue.

Easy to find F these days... probably more so than pure H.
Anyone offering press pills is selling F.. China White, Synthetic H. All F based.

It is not easy to OD on H alone. Addicts didn't start dropping like flies until F, RCs and Carfent was added to their supply
 
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I'm not too sure on that... I'm only taking .25 g because what I bought is not H.
It is a Fent analogue.

Easy to find F these days... probably more so than pure H.
Anyone offering press pills is selling F.. China White, Synthetic H. All F based.

It is not easy to OD on H alone. Addicts didn't start dropping like flies until F, RCs and Carfent was added to their supply

Are you from the US? Then it's easy to get it on the street. Or do you buy from the darknet markets?
 
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H is fairly easy to get here too (I'm in the US ). A person I won't name tried a few lines from a local dealer just to see if it was okay stuff and they were out for a whole weekend, either passed out or puking, so it must be decent. I don't know much about the stuff or what it's cut with around these parts, but it seems like a few grams of that shit would take you out quietly fast.

The problem for me is administration. I'd read you could put H on your finger if you didn't have a syringe and rub it around past the sphincter and get results, but that didn't work at all for said person, even after an hour. Then 2 lines of the same stuff and riding the horse all weekend. So the exact spot in the anus where you administer the H is a mystery to me. Even not mixed with water it seems like there should have been some kind of reaction. But even mixed with water, everybody seems to have their own opinion as to how far to stick the syringe.

I wish I could get some F but I don't trust the darknet or customs for that matter. H is easier, I just wish it wasn't so unpredictable.
 
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Are you from the US? Then it's easy to get it on the street. Or do you buy from the darknet markets?

I ordered from the darknet.
I'm from Canada, and yes, it is easy to find 'H' on the streets but my point is - what you're buying is far from pure H.
It will all be cut with a large amount of undetermined fillers - so if it takes 2 g to OD, you're not actually getting 2g of H.
That's why it's unpredictable... because the actual strength and content is unpredictable.

If your goal is to OD and not to get high and become an addict, then you're more likely to do so with F than H.

The problem for me is administration. I'd read you could put H on your finger if you didn't have a syringe and rub it around past the sphincter and get results, but that didn't work at all for said person, even after an hour. Then 2 lines of the same stuff and riding the horse all weekend. So the exact spot in the anus where you administer the H is a mystery to me. Even not mixed with water it seems like there should have been some kind of reaction. But even mixed with water, everybody seems to have their own opinion as to how far to stick the syringe.

I wish I could get some F but I don't trust the darknet or customs for that matter. H is easier, I just wish it wasn't so unpredictable.

The Darknet has vendors who ship F within the US.

I don't see how one would expect dry crystals to readily be absorbed in the anal canal - you need to dissolve in water.
Dry crystals may work under the tongue since the mouth produces a lot more moisture.

Placement isn't that difficult to figure out really. Here is a drawing that shows the anatomy and the separation between the anal canal and the rectum. Your target area - when absorption takes place most efficiently , is just at the top of the columns. Approximately one inch inside.

https://analcancerinfo.ucsf.edu/anatomy-anus
 
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I ordered from the darknet.
I'm from Canada, and yes, it is easy to find 'H' on the streets but my point is - what you're buying is far from pure H.
It will all be cut with a large amount of undetermined fillers - so if it takes 2 g to OD, you're not actually getting 2g of H.
That's why it's unpredictable... because the actual strength and content is unpredictable.

If your goal is to OD and not to get high and become an addict, then you're more likely to do so with F than H.



The Darknet has vendors who ship F within the US.

I don't see how one would expect dry crystals to readily be absorbed in the anal canal - you need to dissolve in water.
Dry crystals may work under the tongue since the mouth produces a lot more moisture.

Placement isn't that difficult to figure out really. Here is a drawing that shows the anatomy and the separation between the anal canal and the rectum. Your target area - when absorption takes place most efficiently , is just at the top of the columns. Approximately one inch inside.

https://analcancerinfo.ucsf.edu/anatomy-anus
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Seems simple enough.
 
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Jan 5, 2020
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Dear forum,

i am new here so if I make any mistakes i humbly apologize. I've read the FAQ thoroughly though. I am asking the wise members of this forum for help in my next ctb attempt. My plan is to aquire a lethal dose of H and then plug in the forest where no one sees me. I am well aware of the better methods such as N, SN and so on.
I am new to H so i dont think i could IV it, which is why i consider pluggin. Since i am completly opoid naive a large enough dose should do it. If i can i will also aquire anti emetics and benzos.

Sadly on the internet theres not much usefull and detailed information, which is why i have compiled a few questions:

I am considering going with a half of a g of heroin and then immediatly shooting the other half afterwards. Since its rectal there should be a time limit for the upcoming.
Is it possible to plug so much H? Where would be problems? How much water would i need to use to liquify such a large dose? Especially here i need help, if never concocted a shot.

Do you guys have any recommendations for a good rectal syringe that can hold so much product? What would be the right size? The internet recommends 5ml syringes.
Also: some oral syringes come with an attached hose. Could i use that? Or would the rubber be a hindrance?

I hope i didnt annoy you guys with my specific questions. I wish you all the best for the new decade.

Very interesting questions and information. I am asking the same questions as well. It's Very Important that it works!
The Main reason of Importance is that me, and my fiance' are CTB together at home, in bed, preferably holding each other.. Can't risk messing up.!
 

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