Method Please help me with my slipknot.

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My last rope was confiscated by my family and I had a really good functional slipknot on it. I tested it all the time and it wrapped snuggly around my neck whenever I pulled. New year new rope and I cannot recreate the previous knot. I know that contrary to popular belief, you're not supposed to hang with a Hangman's Noose, but the knot I've made looks like a hybrid between a Hangman's Noose and a slipknot.

This is the video tutorial I used to make it:

This is the resulting knot I made:


It doesn't feel right. I can't get it to automatically tighten as good as the old knot. For reference, this is the video tutorial I used for the first knot that I can't seem to recreate:

Does anyone have a surefire way to make a slipknot that I know will get the job done? I'm really freaked out because I actually just watched a video of a young woman having a horribly rough hanging due to an improperly tied slipknot.

Thanks in advance!

 

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I'm really freaked out because I actually just watched a video of a young woman having a horribly rough hanging due to an improperly tied slipknot.

was it ribear3022 :/

 

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was it ribear3022 :/

OH MY GOD IT WAS! I use WatchPeopleDie dot TV for research and her video came up. It was the first time I've seen someone due the half-mortem clawing at their throat and it freaked the fuck out of me and I decided I needed to perfect my noose.

I read her story too, absolutely infuriating that she was pushed to that by some pig of a man. Over internet drama and humiliation she was too young to handle.

And now I fear that my hanging might also be that rough if I don't get this noose right. The last slipknot would rest comfortably at the very top of the back of my neck where it's supposed to while this one pulls to the right. This might have also been where Ribear3022 made her mistake as I've read a proper hanging is done with a slipknot and NOT a Hangman's Noose (which is what I think I tied).

I've spent actual years lurking and posting on Hanging threads on this forum. I need to do this ONCE and do it RIGHT. But there seems to be no uniform consensus on internet tutorials (that I can find) on how to tie a slipknot that will in the least painful way possible kill a human being. It's probably my fault for being too cognitively disabled to do things right but hey, that's why I'm asking for help. Any of which is greatly appreciated.

 

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OH MY GOD IT WAS! I use WatchPeopleDie dot TV for research and her video came up. It was the first time I've seen someone due the half-mortem clawing at their throat and it freaked the fuck out of me and I decided I needed to perfect my noose.

I read her story too, absolutely infuriating that she was pushed to that by some pig of a man. Over internet drama and humiliation she was too young to handle.

And now I fear that my hanging might also be that rough if I don't get this noose right. The last slipknot would rest comfortably at the very top of the back of my neck where it's supposed to while this one pulls to the right. This might have also been where Ribear3022 made her mistake as I've read a proper hanging is done with a slipknot and NOT a Hangman's Noose (which is what I think I tied).

I've spent actual years lurking and posting on Hanging threads on this forum. I need to do this ONCE and do it RIGHT. But there seems to be no uniform consensus on internet tutorials (that I can find) on how to tie a slipknot that will in the least painful way possible kill a human being. It's probably my fault for being too cognitively disabled to do things right but hey, that's why I'm asking for help. Any of which is greatly appreciated.

yeah i made a post about her not too long ago for the same reason

dumbest drama ever and it led to one of the only videos thats ever made me reconsider my own method bc of how brutal it looked

have you experimented with the knot the way you've got it? i plan to do FSH which is obviously harder to test run but i'd probably do a partial version just to see with the new rope i have. i don't really understand the logistics of how an improperly tied noose affects you if it's a ligature compressing your arteries and airway anyway, so im def not the best to be giving actual advice lol. i'd think the only difference would be in a drop vs only suspension.

the info's constantly changing and, naturally, improving, don't feel bad about getting it wrong or being confused! it's pretty hard for dead people to come back and let us know which knots hurt and which were quicker/comfortable, so we've only got theory, interpretation of documentation, and the few survivors who choose to provide their input. that, or we're both cognitively disabled

 

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My last rope was confiscated by my family and I had a really good functional slipknot on it. I tested it all the time and it wrapped snuggly around my neck whenever I pulled. New year new rope and I cannot recreate the previous knot. I know that contrary to popular belief, you're not supposed to hang with a Hangman's Noose, but the knot I've made looks like a hybrid between a Hangman's Noose and a slipknot.

This is the video tutorial I used to make it:

This is the resulting knot I made:
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It doesn't feel right. I can't get it to automatically tighten as good as the old knot. For reference, this is the video tutorial I used for the first knot that I can't seem to recreate:

Does anyone have a surefire way to make a slipknot that I know will get the job done? I'm really freaked out because I actually just watched a video of a young woman having a horribly rough hanging due to an improperly tied slipknot.

Thanks in advance!

One mistake you're making is searching for "slipknot" tutorials. The knot you need is not called the Slip Knot. The Slip Knot is actually a stopper knot, not a self-tightening noose. People call any sliding loop a slipknot these days, but this is confusing and incorrect. If you search for "slipknot tutorials", you'll get fewer results and videos that show you different kinds of knots – you'll just get confused.

Here are the actual knots you need and their proper names:

The Poacher's Knot

This is the knot in the first video in your post and in your pictures. Here are a couple of tutorials on how to tie it:

• How to Tie a Poacher's Knot (YouTube)
• Poacher's Knot (Animated Knots)

You can also add a stopper knot at the tail end, which will make the Poacher's Knot more stable. If you do this, tie the stopper knot as close to the main knot as possible.

Below are two pictures that show the Poacher's Knot with a stopper knot at the tail end. The first one is just for illustrating the structure of the knot. The second one shows how it should look when you've finished tying it.

The Noose Knot with a stopper knot (together called an Arbor Knot)

This is what people like to call a slipknot – incorrectly. The correct name for this knot is the Noose Knot. You also need to add a stopper knot at the tail end. This isn't optional. Without a stopper knot, the Noose Knot can be unreliable. With an added stopper knot, the Noose Knot basically becomes an Arbor Knot.

This knot is a great option if you find tying a Poacher's Knot difficult. The Arbor Knot is one of the simplest knots you can use for the noose, and it works perfectly fine.

Below are a couple of tutorials on how to tie it:

• Fishing Knot: Arbor Knot (YouTube)
• Arbor Knot (Animated Knots)

It isn't shown like that in the tutorials, but tie the stopper knot as close to the main knot as possible. Below are some pictures showing how it should look.

A Noose Knot with a stopper knot at the tail end (also called an Arbor Knot):



The picture below shows a possible mistake you could make. It shows a Slip Knot with a stopper knot at the tail end, which is just a fixed loop. It won't tighten when load is applied. Don't make this mistake.

The Hangman's Noose.

The Hangman's Noose (or Hangman's Knot) isn't ideal to use, because it slides less easily, and it's more difficult to tie. It may work well for long-drop hanging, but for simple suspension hanging, it isn't the best choice.

 

[Exhausted546]

This is so much more complicated than the easy 2-seconds-to-make self tightening "Slipknot" I make. Are you telling me that I've been doing it wrong? Wouldn't this work? It tightens on whatever you put inside, I used it for my partial suspension hanging and plan to use it for my full suspension

One mistake you're making is searching for "slipknot" tutorials. The knot you need is not called the Slip Knot. The Slip Knot is actually a stopper knot, not a self-tightening noose. People call any sliding loop a slipknot these days, but this is confusing and incorrect. If you search for "slipknot tutorials", you'll get fewer results and videos that show you different kinds of knots – you'll just get confused.

 

[AreWeWinning]

Are you telling me that I've been doing it wrong? Wouldn't this work? It tightens on whatever you put inside, I used it for my partial suspension hanging and plan to use it for my full suspension

If the loop tightens when you pull on it, you're good.

This is so much more complicated than the easy 2-seconds-to-make self tightening "Slipknot" I make.

In what way are the following tutorials complicated?

• Fishing Knot: Arbor Knot (YouTube)
• Arbor Knot (Animated Knots)

I don't understand how the knot in your attached picture (the Slip Knot) can tighten under load. If you tie that knot, and you pull on the long end, the knot will just lock up and won't move. If you pull on the short end or put something in the tiny loop and pull on it, the knot will come undone.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to explain it any better than I did in my previous post. :( I'm also not sure which specific parts of the explanation you find complicated or hard to understand.

In any case, it's a naming issue. The Slip Knot and the Noose Knot are very similar. In fact, they are the same knot, and the only difference is which end is the one that holds the weight. Even so, this naming problem and this tiny difference create a lot of confusion and are the reason why many people can't figure out how to tie the knot.

 

[Exhausted546]

If the loop tightens when you pull on it, you're good.



In what way are the following tutorials complicated?

• Fishing Knot: Arbor Knot (YouTube)
• Arbor Knot (Animated Knots)

I don't understand how the knot in your attached picture (the Slip Knot) can tighten under load. If you tie that knot, and you pull on the long end, the knot will just lock up and won't move. If you pull on the short end or put something in the tiny loop and pull on it, the knot will come undone.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to explain it any better than I did in my previous post. :( I'm also not sure which specific parts of the explanation you find complicated or hard to understand.

In any case, it's a naming issue. The Slip Knot and the Noose Knot are very similar. In fact, they are the same knot, and the only difference is which end is the one that holds the weight. Even so, this naming problem and this tiny difference create a lot of confusion and are the reason why many people can't figure out how to tie the knot.

It's fine I reread the post,it was alot less complicated than I thought. I'll go with the arbor knot shown in the animated knots tutorial, although I don't understand why it has a second knot for

 

[Exhausted546]

If the loop tightens when you pull on it, you're good.



In what way are the following tutorials complicated?

• Fishing Knot: Arbor Knot (YouTube)
• Arbor Knot (Animated Knots)

I don't understand how the knot in your attached picture (the Slip Knot) can tighten under load. If you tie that knot, and you pull on the long end, the knot will just lock up and won't move. If you pull on the short end or put something in the tiny loop and pull on it, the knot will come undone.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to explain it any better than I did in my previous post. :( I'm also not sure which specific parts of the explanation you find complicated or hard to understand.

In any case, it's a naming issue. The Slip Knot and the Noose Knot are very similar. In fact, they are the same knot, and the only difference is which end is the one that holds the weight. Even so, this naming problem and this tiny difference create a lot of confusion and are the reason why many people can't figure out how to tie the knot.

Hey what is this second knot for exactly of you don't mind me asking?

 

[AreWeWinning]

Hey what is this second knot for exactly of you don't mind me asking?

Hey, the second knot prevents the main knot from slipping. Without the second knot, if you put a lot of weight on the main knot, it might slip or even come undone. I'm talking about the knot itself – the part of the knot that should hold firmly – not the self-tightening mechanism. Under a lot of force, the tail might get pulled through the main knot, so to speak. The second knot prevents this from happening.

The 'second knot' is called a stopper knot. It's a good idea to tie one at the tail end of any knot as an extra safety measure. If the main knot is inherently secure, it's not strictly necessary, just extra insurance. However, with the Noose Knot (or Arbor Knot), it's a must, because the Noose Knot is not very secure on its own.

 

[Exhausted546]

Hey, the second knot prevents the main knot from slipping. Without the second knot, if you put a lot of weight on the main knot, it might slip or even come undone. I'm talking about the knot itself – the part of the knot that should hold firmly – not the self-tightening mechanism. Under a lot of force, the tail might get pulled through the main knot, so to speak. The second knot prevents this from happening.

The 'second knot' is called a stopper knot. It's a good idea to tie one at the tail end of any knot as an extra safety measure. If the main knot is inherently secure, it's not strictly necessary, just extra insurance. However, with the Noose Knot (or Arbor Knot), it's a must, because the Noose Knot is not very secure on its own.

My attempt failed because the anchor on the other side of the door wasn't good enough so I hit the floor but should i use the same Arbor knot+stopper knot with the anchor object?