philip nitschke and his suicide kits

[regular john]

is it possible to buy from him his kit ? you can watch him selling those kits to people on youtube

 

[Well_Its_Time]

It depends where you are. If you are in some parts of Australia, you can buy it for making "beer". I am not in Oz, so I made my own.

 

[regular john]

do you think it is possible to contact mr Nitschke via internet ? do you have any instructions or pictures that might help me to build this kit on my own ?

 

[Well_Its_Time]

do you think it is possible to contact mr Nitschke via internet ? do you have any instructions or pictures that might help me to build this kit on my own ?

Exit bag and inert gas megathread

Exit Bag and Inert Gas Basics —A very, very long post, I know, but I feel like I've fielded a lot of questions about this, so I figured I'd spell out everything I know. Others on the forum should please add to this thread whatever reliable technical information they feel is appropriate for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[regular john]

what additional parts we need so that our kit is complete ? is the cylinder from video enough ?

 

[Forever Sleep]

what additional parts we need so that our kit is complete ? is the cylinder from video enough ?

Most of the balloon helium tanks sold commercially have a percentage of oxygen mixed in now. They cottoned on to what people were doing with them...

 

[regular john]

so even small amount of oxygen makes our purpose impossible ? I read megathread about intert gas and the author recommended that you need 600 litres of gas which means you need pretty big cillinder. I saw cilinders that mr nitschke was selling to people and they looked pretty small . Why nitchke used pretty small canisters with probably pretty small amount of gas inside ?

 

[AnotherSadDay]

I dont know if you can buy him the kits. And depending on your age/condition, maybe you are rejected. He is more focus with achieving legal death assist to older/terminal people for now

 

[Well_Its_Time]

so even small amount of oxygen makes our purpose impossible ?

Not impossible but you will most likely fail. I had to go to an industrial place and I paid cash. Told them it was for putting nitrogen into beer. They just want the sale and I didn't act nervous or anything.

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

so even small amount of oxygen makes our purpose impossible ? I read megathread about intert gas and the author recommended that you need 600 litres of gas which means you need pretty big cillinder. I saw cilinders that mr nitschke was selling to people and they looked pretty small . Why nitchke used pretty small canisters with probably pretty small amount of gas inside ?

Industrial helium can be up to 99,999% pure. Balloon helium is not advised.

 

[regular john]

so i should try to buy at welding shops ? for welding there must be 100 percent oxygen free nitrogen or argon. Is that correct ?

 

[Well_Its_Time]

yes

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

so i should try to buy at welding shops ? for welding there must be 100 percent oxygen free nitrogen or argon. Is that correct ?

Nitrogen can be used to brew beer as well. But no, it doesn't have to be 100%. In fact, I have yet to see a cylinder at 100%. I don't think that's even possible. The closest I could find for Argon is 99,9992%.

I don't think 99% will be a problem for Argon or Nitrogen. It's Helium you have to watch out for, but industrial Helium (at 99%) is also available.

 

[regular john]

can you give links to clips on youtube that show how people use inert gas in beer manufacturing ?

Not impossible but you will most likely fail. I had to go to an industrial place and I paid cash. Told them it was for putting nitrogen into beer. They just want the sale and I didn't act nervous or anything.

did you buy nitrogen at welding shop ?

 

[onmywaytothebusstop]

what additional parts we need so that our kit is complete ? is the cylinder from video enough ?

Lmao as someone who had 2 tanks in my bedroom to ctb for a few years it made me lol.

There's different cylinders with different volumes. Probably best to look at the volume that youd need.
In contradiction to what a lot of people are saying, there are a lot of balloon helium tanks that are (practically) pure helium which is what you want.

The reason why there should be no oxygen in it when you use an exit bag, you will breathe it in and breath co2 out. Co2 will make you feel like you're suffocating and make your survival instinct kick in.
Also depending on how much oxygen it has, it can make you pass out but miss the bus.

 

[regular john]

Lmao as someone who had 2 tanks in my bedroom to ctb for a few years it made me lol.

There's different cylinders with different volumes. Probably best to look at the volume that youd need.
In contradiction to what a lot of people are saying, there are a lot of balloon helium tanks that are (practically) pure helium which is what you want.

The reason why there should be no oxygen in it when you use an exit bag, you will breathe it in and breath co2 out. Co2 will make you feel like you're suffocating and make your survival instinct kick in.
Also depending on how much oxygen it has, it can make you pass out but miss the bus.

how to check if given baloon helium tank is pure helium or not ?

 

[onmywaytothebusstop]

how to check if given baloon helium tank is pure helium or not ?

It should say it on the tank/website.

If not, look for a different one. (I used to look at the pictures too which often mentioned it. At least if they dont use outdated pics.)

 

[regular john]

It should say it on the tank/website.

If not, look for a different one. (I used to look at the pictures too which often mentioned it. At least if they dont use outdated pics.)

do you think baloon tanks can accomodate 600 litres of gas as we need ?

 

[onmywaytothebusstop]

A single 23 cm balloon needs 14 liters (0.014 m³) of helium.

For 50 balloons:

• 50 × 14 liters = 700 liters (0.7 m³) of helium

Most tanks i've seen are for 50 baloons or less.(there are some larger ones)

Back in the day i had 2 tanks just to be sure. All it needed was a gas pressure valve with 2 different inputs and 1 output.

 

[regular john]

is it difficult to get reductor for baloon tank that will control how much and at what tempo gas will flow into exit bag ?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

how to check if given baloon helium tank is pure helium or not ?

Don't trust balloon helium unless sold by a company that provides safety papers etc. As a test I bought a small balloon helium tank online. On the site it said 99%, but this is nowhere to be seen on the tank itself.

If you want to test it: buy an oxygen meter, fill a plastic bag with helium and check. This is the advice I got from a poster here.

Certainly in the US a lot of balloon helium tanks are mixed with 20% oxygen. The balloon still float, but not as long and they're no use to ctb.

A single 23 cm balloon needs 14 liters (0.014 m³) of helium.

For 50 balloons:

• 50 × 14 liters = 700 liters (0.7 m³) of helium

Most tanks i've seen are for 50 baloons or less.(there are some larger ones)

Back in the day i had 2 tanks just to be sure. All it needed was a gas pressure valve with 2 different inputs and 1 output.

That's not really the correct way to calculate it. It's simple: multiple the content (l) of a tank with the pressure (bar).

A 10 l tank at 200 bar will have 2.000 l of compressed helium/nitrogen.

10 l * 200 bar = 2.000 l (compressed)

For helium a flow of 15 l/min. is needed, so divide 2.000 by 15.

(10 l * 200 bar) / 15 l/min. = 133 minutes

This is the total time the tank will flow at 15 l/min.

 

[regular john]

Don't trust balloon helium unless sold by a company that provides safety papers etc. As a test I bought a small balloon helium tank online. On the site it said 99%, but this is nowhere to be seen on the tank itself.

If you want to test it: buy an oxygen meter, fill a plastic bag with helium and check. This is the advice I got from a poster here.

Certainly in the US a lot of balloon helium tanks are mixed with 20% oxygen. The balloon still float, but not as long and they're no use to ctb.

That's not really the correct way to calculate it. It's simple: multiple the content (l) of a tank with the pressure (bar).

A 10 l tank at 200 bar will have 2.000 l of compressed helium/nitrogen.

10 l * 200 bar = 2.000 l (compressed)

For helium a flow of 15 l/min. is needed, so divide 2.000 by 15.

(10 l * 200 bar) / 15 l/min. = 133 minutes

This is the total time the tank will flow at 15 l/min.

i dont know how to do the test. as soon as you put your hand with oxygen meter inside plastic bag full of helium oxygen will get inside so even if 100% helium is inside the tank test results will show oxygen

 

[NegevChina]

i dont know how to do the test. as soon as you put your hand with oxygen meter inside plastic bag full of helium oxygen will get inside so even if 100% helium is inside the tank test results will show oxygen

It is possible to put the meter in an empty transparent bag and then fill it with Helium. The display could be read through the bag.

 

[regular john]

does anybody know what is called in english this part of tank that gas is going through ? is this fuse or valve ?