Phenobarbital

[Isabellaaa]

Hi..

Does anyone have any info on Phenobarbital overdose (PHENO not PENTO !)

I currently weigh 90kg.. how much would I need to take to die?

I have about 50 grams of Phenobarbital in 100mg tablets and I also have ~ 1 Liter of 1,4-BDO and a shit ton of anti emetics (Meto) and Benzodiazepines (including ampoules of IV Midazolam). I can also get almost any other med apart from controlled substances (opiates, etc) so any tips on what to combine it with would be nice.

How much should I take?

 

[saomao]

at 15:01 it says 4.5 g

 

[Sever]

Just don't. Failed with this. Slept for a day, was passing out randomly for 3-4 days, looked like drunk af or high. Ended up in the asylum.

 

[saomao]

Just don't. Failed with this. Slept for a day, was passing out randomly for 3-4 days, looked like drunk af or high. Ended up in the asylum.

how much did you took?

 

[Sever]

how much did you took?

I evaporated it from the liquid medicine, probs 20g but I suppose is wasn't pure at all. Mixed with champagne.

 

[jake3d]

Phenobarbital is a slow-acting drug so make sure you are not found for at least 1 day. Lethal dose in a dog seems to be 80mg/kg orally so you'd have to take 7.2 grams if you are 90kg (of course, you're not a dog so this may vary).

I would mix in some long-acting benzodiazepines like diazepam. I'm pretty sure there is a recipe for a "phenobarbital cocktail" just that I can't find it right now.

EDIT: This may help: https://anonym.to/?https://www.acutetox.eu/pdf_human_short/14-Phenobarbital revised.pdf

 

[slothturtlebro]

I evaporated it from the liquid medicine, probs 20g but I suppose is wasn't pure at all. Mixed with champagne.

it was N from A?

 

[jake3d]

No, she's talking about phenobarbital which is a different substance.

 

[slothturtlebro]

Oh

 

[Sever]

it was N from A?

No

 

[cornflowerblue]

Hi..

Does anyone have any info on Phenobarbital overdose (PHENO not PENTO !)

I currently weigh 90kg.. how much would I need to take to die?

I have about 50 grams of Phenobarbital in 100mg tablets and I also have ~ 1 Liter of 1,4-BDO and a shit ton of anti emetics (Meto) and Benzodiazepines (including ampoules of IV Midazolam). I can also get almost any other med apart from controlled substances (opiates, etc) so any tips on what to combine it with would be nice.

How much should I take?

It's in PPeH. Do your research, don't it get confused with pento, don't attempt without researching unless you like comas and psych wards.

 

[kuddelmuddel23]

Hi..

Does anyone have any info on Phenobarbital overdose (PHENO not PENTO !)

I currently weigh 90kg.. how much would I need to take to die?

I have about 50 grams of Phenobarbital in 100mg tablets and I also have ~ 1 Liter of 1,4-BDO and a shit ton of anti emetics (Meto) and Benzodiazepines (including ampoules of IV Midazolam). I can also get almost any other med apart from controlled substances (opiates, etc) so any tips on what to combine it with would be nice.

How much should I take?

In addition to PPeH I can also recommend the book Guide to Self Chosen and Humane Death. Chapter 3 on page 41 deals with overdosing with barbiturates. There you will also find the recommended dose.

https://dignifieddying.com/publicaties/EN/2006%20Guide%20to%20Self-Chosen%20and%20Humane%20Death.pdf

 

[cornflowerblue]

In addition to PPeH I can also recommend the book Guide to Self Chosen and Humane Death. Chapter 3 on page 41 deals with overdosing with barbiturates. There you will also find the recommended dose.

https://dignifieddying.com/publicaties/EN/2006%20Guide%20to%20Self-Chosen%20and%20Humane%20Death.pdf

Wow those doses are low. 6 grams? PPeH recommends 12 for N and 20 for pheno, I think. The time to death is much slower and probability of failure is much higher with a lower dose. Either PPeH, or the Canadian government euthanasia guide has a chart with times to death by percentage of users, and dosage

 

[Alex R]

I evaporated it from the liquid medicine, probs 20g but I suppose is wasn't pure at all. Mixed with champagne.

what medicine?
how exactly evaporated?

 

[kuddelmuddel23]

Wow those doses are low. 6 grams? PPeH recommends 12 for N and 20 for pheno, I think. The time to death is much slower and probability of failure is much higher with a lower dose. Either PPeH, or the Canadian government euthanasia guide has a chart with times to death by percentage of users, and dosage

Yeah, I agreed with you that 6gm was a little low. But I think the book assumes that the phenobarbital is taken together with benzos, which increase the effect a bit.

The PPeh at least says that 6gm N and 10 gm phenobarbital are sufficient for a peaceful death.

 

[cornflowerblue]

what medicine?
how exactly evaporated?

It's OTC in some countries, you'd have to actually read PPeH and other guides for evaporation instructions. Doing so improperly would result in the active ingredient degrading and potentially leaving you with some zero-potency nasty tasting powder.

Yeah, I agreed with you that 6gm was a little low. But I think the book assumes that the phenobarbital is taken together with benzos, which increase the effect a bit.

The PPeh at least says that 6gm N and 10 gm phenobarbital are sufficient for a peaceful death.

Yes, but I think with 6g N, the death rate within 24hr is only something like 75%? I don't have the chart handy and don't feel like pulling it up for this because I don't even remember the exact source

 

[Sever]

It's OTC in some countries, you'd have to actually read PPeH and other guides for evaporation instructions. Doing so improperly would result in the active ingredient degrading and potentially leaving you with some zero-potency nasty tasting powder.

You're right. Unless you're in post-ussr countries, you have no chance to purchase it w/o prescription. My mistakes were having the flat rented only for one day - as a result being found by a flat owner and getting fucked up with evaporating and probably letting the liquid boil (I really suck at cooking so it was hard to me to understand if it is boils or not)

 

[Alex R]

It's OTC in some countries, you'd have to actually read PPeH and other guides for evaporation instructions. Doing so improperly would result in the active ingredient degrading and potentially leaving you with some zero-potency nasty tasting powder.

Yes, it is difficult to get pure phenobarbital, in the right quantity, and too unreliable. It's funny, in our country it is easy to buy medicine with phenobarbital, but it is impossible to get Nembutal anywhere.

 

[Sever]

Yes, it is difficult to get pure phenobarbital, in the right quantity, and too unreliable. It's funny, in our country it is easy to buy medicine with phenobarbital, but it is impossible to get Nembutal anywhere.

Russia? Or maybe somewhere close to it?

 

[kuddelmuddel23]

Yes, but I think with 6g N, the death rate within 24hr is only something like 75%? I don't have the chart handy and don't feel like pulling it up for this because I don't even remember the exact source

If it's not too much trouble for you, I'd be happy if you could find the source. I would be very interested in that.

 

[Alex R]

Russia?

Yes.

 

[Sever]

Yes.

Тогда объясняю тебе популярно: даже не думай, блять, это делать. Это пиздец. Выпаривала из корвалола, но нихуя этого делать не стоит, потому что качества он будет сомнительного, а выпаривать придётся несколько часов на «водяной бане» при температуре от 70 до 100. Вскипятишь - пиздец, пропадут свойства. У нас вообще таким методом пользуются торчки, но не самовыпила ради, а чтобы уснуть на отходах. Лучше закажи нитрита натрия (ссылка на магазин есть в оффтопике в СНГ-треде) https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/users-from-ukraine-russia-bielorussia-and-others-post-soviet-countries.
Sorry for offtopic, guys

 

[cornflowerblue]

If it's not too much trouble for you, I'd be happy if you could find the source. I would be very interested in that.

I don't have the energy. It might be PPeH, might be the Canadian government document about their choice for assisted suicide methods, might be something else. It's all available on this forum or on google.

If it's not too much trouble for you, I'd be happy if you could find the source. I would be very interested in that.

You really need to do your own thorough research. You can't just rely on forum posts which are other people's interpretations and summaries

 

[kuddelmuddel23]

I don't have the energy. It might be PPeH, might be the Canadian government document about their choice for assisted suicide methods, might be something else. It's all available on this forum or on google.

You really need to do your own thorough research. You can't just rely on forum posts which are other people's interpretations and summaries

Yes, I did. I have read the PPeH, Five Last Acts, Guide to Self Chosen and Humane Death and some other PDF documents about Assisted Suicide. In none of them I found an information that the chances of success are 75%. That's why I asked for the source, because it interests me and because I obviously haven't seen some information yet. Maybe you will find the energy to search for it in the next few days. Thank you.

 

[cornflowerblue]

Yes, I did. I have read the PPeH, Five Last Acts, Guide to Self Chosen and Humane Death and some other PDF documents about Assisted Suicide. In none of them I found an information that the chances of success are 75%. That's why I asked for the source, because it interests me and because I obviously haven't seen some information yet. Maybe you will find the energy to search for it in the next few days. Thank you.

Not chance of success. Chance of death in under 24hr.

 

[kuddelmuddel23]

Not chance of success. Chance of death in under 24hr.

Sorry, that's what I meant. There are no indications that 25% experience >24 hours to death with 6gm.

 

[cornflowerblue]

Sorry, that's what I meant. There are no indications that 25% experience >24 hours to death with 6gm.

It may not be 25%. My phrasing was in the form of a question, indicating I'm unsure of the real number, and said "something like 75%"

 

[WaterUnder]

"phenobarbital cocktail"

1. Dogs metabolize drugs very differently from humans, so you can't extrapolate dosage that way
2. I did the whole pheno-CNS depressant cocktail thing and, as you can see, am alive to tell about it.

 

[jake3d]

Happy and sorry about that, at the same time. The sources i found are not just that study on dogs, it's also in dr. Admiraal's book.

 

[WaterUnder]

Happy and sorry about that, at the same time. The sources i found are not just that study on dogs, it's also in dr. Admiraal's book.

A long time ago I found a way to calculate it based on weight and combination factors. But. . . .