Discussion Phenobarbital v N

[Rachel74]

Is Phenobarbital the same as N if it's in a tablet?
Also is Phenobarbitone the same?
Just curious as I have rather a few tubs of these tablets (used to work as a pharmacy dispenser) and just wondered how they worked compared to N and if you'd get that peaceful sleep?
From what I've read it's still a peaceful CTB method but takes up to 1/2 hour to die.
Also got phenytoin and that's just as good as Phenobarbital, so I'm told.
Befoie Anyone asks how I got them I was a dispenser in a chemist and the tablets were being thrown away. All chemists have a scheme in the uk that they will dispose of any prescription drugs and these were from there.

 

[truthseeker]

The Heaven's Gate cult's group exit in 1997 used pheno with vodka. From the photos and brief video I've seen of the aftermath, it looked peaceful and I assume quick.

 

[MeltingHeart]

The Heaven's Gate cult's group exit in 1997 used pheno with vodka. From the photos and brief video I've seen of the aftermath, it looked peaceful and I assume quick.

id love to join a death cult right now- would be strangely reassuring!

 

[falconeyes]

Phenobarbital, phenobarbitone and phenobarb all are synonyms for the same compound. N and Ph both are barbiturates except that Ph is a long acting drug, it takes almost an hour to the effect to take place. With over (lethal) doses during that hour, the person will suffer from painful side affects -mostly cardiac- before coma then death which happend much slower than in case of N, and in case of failure, Ph causes horrible withdrawal syndromes. In rare cases, Ph could cause what is called Steven-Johnson syndrome, which include blisters, fever, and widespread pain.

Phenobarbital (Phenobarbital): Side Effects, Uses, Dosage, Interactions, Warnings

Phenobarbital (Phenobarbital) may treat, side effects, dosage, drug interactions, warnings, patient labeling, reviews, and related medications including drug comparison and health resources.

www.rxlist.com

Barbiturate Toxicity - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Rachel74]

Phenobarbital, phenobarbitone and phenobarb all are synonyms for the same compound. N and Ph both are barbiturates except that Ph is a long acting drug, it takes almost an hour to the effect to take place. With over (lethal) doses during that hour, the person will suffer from painful side affects -mostly cardiac- before coma then death which happend much slower than in case of N, and in case of failure, Ph causes horrible withdrawal syndromes. In rare cases, Ph could cause what is called Steven-Johnson syndrome, which include blisters, fever, and widespread pain.

Phenobarbital (Phenobarbital): Side Effects, Uses, Dosage, Interactions, Warnings

Phenobarbital (Phenobarbital) may treat, side effects, dosage, drug interactions, warnings, patient labeling, reviews, and related medications including drug comparison and health resources.

www.rxlist.com

Barbiturate Toxicity - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Thanks for that, that's what I wanted to know

 

[gingerplum]

Phenobarbital, phenobarbitone and phenobarb all are synonyms for the same compound. N and Ph both are barbiturates except that Ph is a long acting drug, it takes almost an hour to the effect to take place. With over (lethal) doses during that hour, the person will suffer from painful side affects -mostly cardiac- before coma then death which happend much slower than in case of N, and in case of failure, Ph causes horrible withdrawal syndromes. In rare cases, Ph could cause what is called Steven-Johnson syndrome, which include blisters, fever, and widespread pain.

Phenobarbital (Phenobarbital): Side Effects, Uses, Dosage, Interactions, Warnings

Phenobarbital (Phenobarbital) may treat, side effects, dosage, drug interactions, warnings, patient labeling, reviews, and related medications including drug comparison and health resources.

www.rxlist.com

Barbiturate Toxicity - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

No kidding? I usually associate Stevens-Johnson's with sulfa drugs.

 

[falconeyes]

No kidding? I usually associate Stevens-Johnson's with sulfa drugs.

yep, sulfa drugs are inducers as well, here's some reported cases of SJS induced by Phenobarbital:

Phenobarbital induced Stevens-Johnson syndrome: a case report | Ramineni | International Journal of Research in Medical Sciences

Phenobarbital induced Stevens–Johnson syndrome in a child

Phenobarbital, an antiepileptic agent has numerous adverse reactions including Stevens– Johnson syndrome (SJS), a rare medical emergency. A 12-year-old male epileptic child with phenobarbital-induced SJS was referred for the management of severe ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277329798_Stevens_Johnson_syndrome_secondary_to_Phenobarbitone

Stevens-Johnson syndrome

Find out about Stevens-Johnson syndrome, including what causes it, what the symptoms are and when to get medical help.

www.nhs.uk

 

[Soul]

Hm. With Rachel74 banned for scamming, one might wonder why a former dispenser at a chemists wouldn't be able to check for herself what the substances are. So this was clearly a fishing thread - an advert of what she has available.

It's surely not legal for employees to help themselves to serious prescription drugs slated for disposal. They don't just put them in dumpsters, do they?

 

[Roger]

Not my preferred method, but N is pentobarbital, not phenobarbital, surely ?

 

[Soul]

Not my preferred method, but N is pentobarbital, not phenobarbital, surely ?

Correct as usual, @Roger. The fact that Rachel74 had to ask (or pretended she had to ask) isn't very compatible with her claim to have been a dispenser at a chemist's. In that position one would be expected to know the difference, I hope?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Hm. With Rachel74 banned for scamming, one might wonder why a former dispenser at a chemists wouldn't be able to check for herself what the substances are. So this was clearly a fishing thread - an advert of what she has available.

It's surely not legal for employees to help themselves to serious prescription drugs slated for disposal. They don't just put them in dumpsters, do they?

Controlled substances like this are kept close watch on even when they have 'expired'. All the way up until the moment they are actually destroyed. Careful records are usually kept on the entire process.

 

[★†DaughterOfEve†★]

I found some phenobarbital on indiamart. I know it's slower acting than N but N is so hard to get, is it worth a shot to get it in order to ctb?

 

[jgm63]

This doesn't sound overly promising :

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[★†DaughterOfEve†★]

This doesn't sound overly promising :

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Ok then great. :( :,( I feel like my only hope really is an end of life clinic abroad

 

[pane]

Ok then great. :( :,( I feel like my only hope really is an end of life clinic abroad

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You can read about it at the following two links:

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