Pegasos controversy (suicide business)

[unluckysadness]

Here are some articles about Pegasus Switzerland. In fact, I contacted them some weeks ago by e-mail and they told me that my family should be aware of my decision. They also said that conditions are very strict because I'm "young" (43 yo). I don't know what to think about it but it seems to be a huge business...

L'association Pegasos ravive la controverse sur les procédures de l'assistance au suicide en Suisse | RTS

Des familles britanniques accusent l'association suisse Pegasos d'avoir aidé leurs proches à mourir sans réelle justification médicale. Basée dans le canton de Soleure, l'organisation défend sa légalité et son éthique, mais ses méthodes ravivent le débat sur les limites de l'aide au suicide en...

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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/this-womans-vacation-was-a-secret-switzerland-trip-for-assisted-suicide-9215608

Ce village suisse sert de refuge pour le suicide assisté

Des personnes du monde entier viennent recourir au suicide assisté dans un hameau du canton de Soleure. Des habitants s'indignent de la situation, tandis que la commune et le canton cherchent des solutions pragmatiques.

www.blick.ch

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

Thank you for sharing information with us. I believe we need to accept a certain level of commercialization of assisted dying or euthanasia while it may look like a kind of "merchants of death". No one will pay for our peaceful deaths even after the right to die is largely appreciated. On the other hand people with financial issues (and suicidal intention due to this) should not be forced to resort to potentially painful and unreliable suicide attempts. If the right to die for everyone were to be acknowledged, we may have euthanasia clinics out there (then prolifers set fire on them) and get cheaper services.

Two of those articles are based on pro-life narratives and the family members who were obviously not supportive of their family and are now barking up the wrong tree. I hope people start to dismantle and debunk that blame shifting and virtuous victimhood signaling.

Alastair souffrait de douleurs abdominales inexpliquées, mais il n'était pas en fin de vie. "Sa vie n'était pas parfaite, mais il avait encore une vie que des milliers de personnes auraient été heureuses d'avoir", ajoute sa mère.

"No one's saying she wasn't feeling pain. Not pain good enough to go and end her life. She had a lot more life to live and give," Ms Royal said. "She was just in a dark time. She wasn't terminally ill or, in my opinion, ill enough to go and do this and leave our family behind like that."

This is a comment in SaSu for that notorious NYT article.

They write this shit because they don't understand - totally out of ignorance. This is the only place I've ever found people who understand me and don't judge me. Most news is just a rag anyway. most of this shit comes from parents whose children have committed suicide and their guilt is so overwhelming they can't take responsibility for it they have to blame someone else.

I'm sorry you are in the debilitating condition where assisted dying may be justifiable. May you recover from the disease in some way otherwise get the bus ticket.

 

[unluckysadness]

I'm sorry you are in the debilitating condition where assisted dying may be justifiable. May you recover from the disease in some way otherwise get the bus ticket.

Thanks for your kind words. Yes I'm in a debilitating painful condition. The disease is incurable so I need to wait for the bus driver (I have my ticket). In fact, most of us don't need to be "assisted" for committing suicide. They can just give us N (we know how to drink it). But pro-lifers seems to prefere violent and painful methods for us...

 

[AreWeWinning]

Thanks for your kind words. Yes I'm in a debilitating painful condition. The disease is incurable so I need to wait for the bus driver (I have my ticket). In fact, most of us don't need to be "assisted" for committing suicide. They can just give us N (we know how to drink it). But pro-lifers seems to prefere violent and painful methods for us...

So basically, you're hating on the fact that euthanasia is a business, people make money from it, and that it's expensive, but at the end of the day, it's all because of pro-lifers. If suicide weren't stigmatised and criminalised, it would be more easily available, and it wouldn't be such a big business. These companies do profit from it, but if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to keep the whole operation going. I'm sure the legal fees are high and there's a lot of bureaucracy around it that costs a lot.

 

[elenaboo25]

It is a business in the same way as hospitals are businesses. Unfortunately, in our capitalist society, nothing is truly free.

 

[ifihadnever]

Ironically, I had a similar experience when I reached out to them a few weeks back. Told I was young (also in my 40s) and they wanted a family member to vouch for the situation. My parents are both long dead and I don't have any other family that I'm close too. Not sure the uncle i saw 20 years ago would be able to vouch for my current situation. Why wasn't my word or medical records enough. I felt punished for losing my parents when I was young and now being very isolated and now having family. We don't all have 'happy family homes'. Made me feel more rubbish than before contacting them. Rant over. But I understand where you are coming from

 

[58Alice85]

If they actually deliver the service why shouldnt they be paid?
I am more pissed off at the fact around half of the things doctors do are straight up scams or placebo.

 

[penguinl0v3s]

I do think this is concerning. I believe healthcare, including euthanasia should be government funded. We should not normalize the commercialization of our health.

 

[elenaboo25]

Even if it were government funded, somebody would be paying it in the end.