zatoichi

zatoichi

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Jun 20, 2018
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How easy or difficult to pass out and drown in water? I read somewhere that it's possible to pass out with hyperventilation. If I pass out under the water after hyperventilation, will I be able to die or SI will kick out? I'm thinking about this method because it's gonna look like an accident and I live by seaside.
 
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GeorgeJL

GeorgeJL

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Mar 7, 2019
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I would try to pass out with hyperventilation first before doing it under water. Otherwise you might just not pass out and drown. Which would be painful.
 
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Divine Trinity

Divine Trinity

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Mar 20, 2019
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Drowning is probably the 4th or 5th most painful way to die, not recommended.

We're also very adapted to living near water, so SI will likely be harder to handle.
 
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GeorgeJL

GeorgeJL

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Mar 7, 2019
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IDK I'm having second thoughts after reading this.

What does it feel like to drown?

Now I think it depends on the person as to how painful it is. And it's certainly not anywhere near shooting yourself or burning yourself, and maybe even hanging.

Regardless if you decide to drown I would wear yourself out first. Like run a bunch and deplete your oxygen stores making SI much lower.
 
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Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Oct 19, 2018
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Drowning must be the most painful and scariest way to leave this world,i can imagine the pain when the wáter comes to your lungs
and the survival instinct trying to get you out of the wáter,i wouldn´t recommended it at all
 
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Alchemist

Alchemist

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Apr 3, 2019
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I considered the same, but then I remembered sharks and the idea of becoming shark lunch while alive doesn't seem pleasing.
 
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Deadgirl

Deadgirl

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Mar 31, 2019
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As a drowning victim myself (not from ctb) you will be very miserable and SI with be a b!cth. It would take 1 minute till you feel faint, it will be the longest minute of your life. If you hyperventilate before hand you may actually not feel anything. If you want to do that method hyperventilate first.
 
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EddieAllenPoe

EddieAllenPoe

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Mar 19, 2019
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I had a brief moment as a child when I passed out underwater. I don't really know all the details of how it happened. I still have a faint mental movie of it though. I got my foot stuck in a handicap guide rail and flipped upside down. I could see the sun filtering through the blue water and I had this impression I was breathing under water. It was far from painful. Obviously, I couldn't have been breathing under water. But it's what I remember. Next thing I knew I was at the poolside with somebody resuscitating me. I have a hard time believing it would feel that simple if it happened again as an adult.
 
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Dead beat dad

Dead beat dad

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Mar 5, 2019
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This method happens to people accidentally all the time. I reckon the SI would be diminished if you did it on a super cold night and got Yeltsin drunk, plus it might also look like an accident, if you're in to that kind of thing.
Good luck friend, I hope you find peace.
DBD
 
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s_girl

s_girl

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Sep 13, 2018
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As a drowning victim myself (not from ctb) you will be very miserable and SI with be a b!cth. It would take 1 minute till you feel faint, it will be the longest minute of your life. If you hyperventilate before hand you may actually not feel anything. If you want to do that method hyperventilate first.

I have also accidentally drowned and been rescued and resuscitated. It truly felt like forever under water, it was terrifying and extremely painful. But I do think there are worse methods... The best way would be to get drunk and high on benzo's and go for a fun night swim. Lots of accidental / misadventure deaths like Jeff Buckley, Dennis Wilson and countless others. Whilst it would be scary and pretty painful, it's also cheap, easily accessible, highly reliable (if planned correctly), fast-ish and has one of the highest chances of being labelled accidental I think. All methods involve balancing the pro's and con's and it really comes to down to execution and personal preference.

Hyperventilation doesn't really work. I think the Shallow Water Blackout method has been disproven hasn't it?
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-swb-thread-is-locked.14930/
 
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EmotionlessWanderer

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Jan 19, 2019
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Call me strange but to me this method sounds ideal. Yes it will be hella painful probably more than I anticipate but I will be surrounded by beautiful nature during my last moments in this world instead of some damp motel or house and that alone is worth it to me.
 
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NOT

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Apr 16, 2019
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Jumping of a cruiser in the middle of the sea is actually 100% method. Either you drown or you die from hypothermia, or you get eaten by a shark. You just have to take a lot of Cocaine before you jump, otherwise you are not gonna do it.
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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I think while this method is very high in reliability, the pain and suffering will be immense before you succumb to death. Like what others said, drowning is very uncomfortable and painful and SI will make it worse as it will fight to keep you alive (thus resulting in a lot of pain). If CTB'ing via sea, it is better to be sedated or unconscious before drowning as the process of drowning is uncomfortable and very painful.
 
Superfluous

Superfluous

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Mar 16, 2019
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The more I read about this method, the more I'm drawn to it. Reliability is most important for me, and ideally my body not being found after death. Just found out that bodies that have died from drowning will sink (always thought they would float for some reason).

I have a good supply of diazepam, trazodone which I use occasionally for sleeping, and domperidone just in case. Water temperature where I live is very nice (just under 30 C). Buy some fins, prepare the meds, take the antiemetics, late night swim as far as possible, dump the fins, take the meds, swim some more, hmm...
 
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housecat

housecat

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Apr 5, 2019
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I always had the assumption that it probably wouldn't hurt to run out of air and lose consciousness, but inhaling water might or panicking would probably be unpleasant.
 
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spanishguy22

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Apr 9, 2019
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Actress Stephanie Shark died recently by using weights to drown in her pool.
I hadn't thought of this method. But it's looking line an option. I'd do it in the sea not in my pool ofc lol... Very scary to drown but idk.
 
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NOT

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Apr 16, 2019
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It is quite common to find places even in the Bible where the sea is referred to as a place for washing away of the sin. I dont mean to sin like you don't go to church on Sunday, but as a state where you suffer psychologicaly, and cause others to suffer. For example there is a famous verce when God says "it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were cast in to the sea" or God revealing his nature, "he will tread our iniquities under foot yes, you will cast all their sins Into the depths of the sea."
 
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Longman

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Jan 9, 2019
115
Hyperventilation doesn't really work. I think the Shallow Water Blackout method has been disproven hasn't it?
That was just opinion of OP of SWB thread.
SWB method seems impossible for some people (read https://kefkaponders.wordpress.com/...cide-method-part-iii-unfortunate-conclusions/) or even for an average person. On the other side, SWB death look so attractively easy:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lifeguard-Death-4605421.php
The victim SWBed during a short underwater swim (in a pool 25m length).
 
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brighter

brighter

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Jan 22, 2019
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@polat
What you would need to pay attention to when doing this, especially since the aim is to make your death look like an accident, is to have a plausible excuse as to how you got unconscious enough to fall into the water and drown.

Maybe take @dead beat dad's suggestion and be drunk, so that during the autopsy they detect high alcohol levels. Otherwise them finding sleep medication or other similar drugs in your system would make it look suspicious.

All the best, wishing you peace.
 
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dyingtodie

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Nov 29, 2018
115
I have thought about swimming into an underwater cave tunnel, and just swimming and swimming further in, so by the time SI strikes, escape is not possible. I've done some partial hanging dress rehearsels and they always scare me. I sometimes think I'll find success only through a ballsier method such as described, or jumping from way too high. Though...as a yogi, I think the moment of death itself is very valuable and important, and hanging might offer more time in that state, and a more overall peaceful transition.
 
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Jean Améry

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Mar 17, 2019
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I have thought about swimming into an underwater cave tunnel, and just swimming and swimming further in, so by the time SI strikes, escape is not possible. I've done some partial hanging dress rehearsels and they always scare me. I sometimes think I'll find success only through a ballsier method such as described, or jumping from way too high. Though...as a yogi, I think the moment of death itself is very valuable and important, and hanging might offer more time in that state, and a more overall peaceful transition.

That would probably do the trick (both the swimming into a cave and jumping from a height). However it seems to me it would lead to great panic once you realize there's no going back and you'll drown or fall to your death. Personally I'd rather not die in a state of panic: if it comes to that I'd want to pass out and die without any knowledge of the event nor pain of any kind.

If there is anything to the concept of an afterlife and one's moral and spiritual conduct, thoughts, behaviours influence the outcome dying in a composed state of mind might be more beneficial. That seems difficult to do if one is drowning or seeing the earth approaching rapidly. Jumping might provide one last adrenaline rush though, if one is into that.
 
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dyingtodie

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Nov 29, 2018
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@Jean Améry I totally agree. I doubt the adrenline rush from jumping would be worth the trade off of not dying in a composed state. And drowning in a panic seems cruel. Though, sometimes I wonder if it really matters. I mean, the subtle body can leave the physical body so quickly, in an instant. And, I wonder how much of the 'death process' happens in the brain/body vs. the astral body. I'm an Earth lover, and so merging so dramatically with a river from a high jump seems romantic...but likely foolish.

I also do wonder if dying from drugs can inhibit the death process in an unhelpful way. I mean, there are no trip reports from a lethal dose of N, are there? What if it's super hellish internally? I've always wondered about this.
 
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Jean Améry

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Mar 17, 2019
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@Jean Améry I totally agree. I doubt the adrenline rush from jumping would be worth the trade off of not dying in a composed state. And drowning in a panic seems cruel. Though, sometimes I wonder if it really matters. I mean, the subtle body can leave the physical body so quickly, in an instant. And, I wonder how much of the 'death process' happens in the brain/body vs. the astral body. I'm an Earth lover, and so merging so dramatically with a river from a high jump seems romantic...but likely foolish.

I also do wonder if dying from drugs can inhibit the death process in an unhelpful way. I mean, there are no trip reports from a lethal dose of N, are there? What if it's super hellish internally? I've always wondered about this.

I have no idea what if anything happens at the moment of death besides the physical process of the body breaking down leading to catastrophic failure of all systems and irretrievable loss of consciousness. I do think having no pain and losing consciousness suddenly never to wake up again is superior to being in agony and dying knowing full well what is happening.

You could always arrange to have your ashes thrown into a river if you wish to be united with nature, which will happen anyway. We all turn to dust after all.

I wouldn't gamble on dying being a pleasant experience. I know I won't if I have anything to say about it.
 
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tomz323

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Mar 29, 2019
367
I feel like drowning would be horrible, and survival instant would kick in almost right away.
 
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NOT

Experienced
Apr 16, 2019
250
I am just saying if one could numb down the concioussnes a bit it could be an option. People do all kinds of stuff when they are drunk or on drugs, and they do not feel or remember anything. It's not every day you can find a high enough bridge with a deep enough river, or a boat on the open sea from which you can jump off. It is easy to regret it if you do not try it, while you have a chance. Anyways whosoever does this method is showing enormous amount of spirit.
 
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Superfluous

Superfluous

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Mar 16, 2019
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SWB method seems impossible for some people (read https://kefkaponders.wordpress.com/...cide-method-part-iii-unfortunate-conclusions/) or even for an average person.
Thanks @Longman for that link. Very useful information.

I've been seriously considering this method for a couple of days and have decided that this is now my preferred way to go.

I'll spend the next 2 weeks planning a trip to a small island and organising a few things here at home, then a week or so on the island relaxing and checking out the area. If all goes according to plan, I expect May to be my last month here.

Strangely liberating having finally settled on a method.
 
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Monster

Monster

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Apr 26, 2019
77
Hey, could anybody tell me what SI means in this context? I can't figure it out. Thanks
 
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Apr 16, 2019
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