Ordering SN from the EU but what will happen if the product comes to UK

[FireFox]

I found some SN from France on Amazon. The UK is no longer a member of the EU. When UK was in the UK goods were able to flow freely across borders without red tape. Since leaving the EU a lot of UK businesses and organisations are dealing with the uncertainty as our politicians didn't go a good job in explaining to the public what a post brexit UK will look like.

I want to know what will happen if I order it. Will it have to go through UK immigration and customs ?

I am scared because I don't want a love letter sent to my house. Love letter is slang for a letter sent by borders or an authority notifying you that an illegal package has been seized.

 

[Agon321]

Are you sure you found SN?
To my knowledge, you can no longer buy >95% SN on Amazon

Have you checked what percentage it is?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

It will go through customs. The question is only do they have a closer look or your parcel just goes through. It's a risk.

I doubt that there is SN available on Amazon.

 

[lebrodude]

If it's coming from France it will go through customs.

It may be intercepted, it may not. Thats the chance you cannot avoid taking.

SN is still getting into the UK without issue so you may have nothing to worry about.

 

[wyo777]

Like above, first at all there is no chance for 95% SN to be found on amazon. End of story. Secondary Customs gives a s... about SN cause it is legal substance. If U do not have any mental history problems, it will go through without any problems.

 

[PinballWizard39]

Like above, first at all there is no chance for 95% SN to be found on amazon. End of story. Secondary Customs gives a s... about SN cause it is legal substance. If U do not have any mental history problems, it will go through without any problems.

Second that about Amazon. I have known mental health issues but thankfully didn't receive a welfare check, though I know that was/is a legit risk here in the UK. However, I decided the risk was worth it.

Quick side note - if we say it might be an issue if you have 'known' mental health history, who are we saying it's known to? For example, my MH team have known me for over 2 decades but I've never come to the attention of the police. I'm assuming the police then as I can't imagine any mailing/customs people naturally contact MH teams. Just a thought, don't mind me.

 

[UKscotty]

Getting SN on amazon and eBay is hard as they delete listing's when people report them so they don't stay up long.

 

[wyo777]

Second that about Amazon. I have known mental health issues but thankfully didn't receive a welfare check, though I know that was/is a legit risk here in the UK. However, I decided the risk was worth it.

Quick side note - if we say it might be an issue if you have 'known' mental health history, who are we saying it's known to? For example, my MH team have known me for over 2 decades but I've never come to the attention of the police. I'm assuming the police then as I can't imagine any mailing/customs people naturally contact MH teams. Just a thought, don't mind me.

I dont mind, i totally agree, as long as u dont have police involved it should be allright. Mental issues is one thing, suicide is second, there is always police involved into suicide attempt. Also if your MH team is aware about your suicide thoughts they should inform about that your local first responders. Mostly they dont do that cause UK healthcare is...well it is as it is...in my personal opinion is terrible

Getting SN on amazon and eBay is hard as they delete listing's when people report them so they don't stay up long.

It is impossible, not hard. Period.

 

[PinballWizard39]

I dont mind, i totally agree, as long as u dont have police involved it should be allright. Mental issues is one thing, suicide is second, there is always police involved into suicide attempt. Also if your MH team is aware about your suicide thoughts they should inform about that your local first responders. Mostly they dont do that cause UK healthcare is...well it is as it is...in my personal opinion is terrible

It is impossible, not hard. Period.

I've made many suicide attempts and never heard of the police or local first responders (Idk what the equivalent of that is in the UK) being involved ever. If it does or ever has, it's not the norm. But yes you are right, the NHS is terrible - a massive understatement to say the least.

 

[wyo777]

I've made many suicide attempts and never heard of the police or local first responders (Idk what the equivalent of that is in the UK) being involved ever. If it does or ever has, it's not the norm. But yes you are right, the NHS is terrible - a massive understatement to say the least.

After suicide attempt hospital or first responders are obligate to inform police about that

 

[PinballWizard39]

After suicide attempt hospital or first responders are obligate to inform police about that

That doesn't happen. The hospital just contact your MH team if you have one, if not, they contact your GP.

 

[wyo777]

That doesn't happen. The hospital just contact your MH team if you have one, if not, they contact your GP.

Maybe it does not happen every time, maybe it depends from circumstances, mental health act on gov does not say everything. For sure police got information about suicidal attempts in past when they are involved. It is due to MHA 1983. When they r receiving a call about suicide or any other life treat to others, they already got info about past suicidal attempts.
At least i think so.
At least i think so.

 

[PinballWizard39]

Maybe it does not happen every time, maybe it depends from circumstances, mental health act on gov does not say everything. For sure police got information about suicidal attempts in past when they are involved. It is due to MHA 1983. When they r receiving a call about suicide or any other life treat to others, they already got info about past suicidal attempts.
At least i think so.
At least i think so.

That sounds more like when the police detain you to remove you to a place of safety due to concerns for suicide or self harm or harm to others. I assume in that instance they could obtain at least some of your history. The only other time the police would be involved is if you were already sectioned and you absconded from the hospital (been there!). Unless the MHA is involved, or a member of the public calls the police to do a welfare check, they don't get involved. The MHA is a legal thing and the majority of people with MH issues aren't sectioned or are informal or not in hospital at all, therefore there's no need for police involvement.

 

[Traveller12724]

I found some SN from France on Amazon. The UK is no longer a member of the EU. When UK was in the UK goods were able to flow freely across borders without red tape. Since leaving the EU a lot of UK businesses and organisations are dealing with the uncertainty as our politicians didn't go a good job in explaining to the public what a post brexit UK will look like.

I want to know what will happen if I order it. Will it have to go through UK immigration and customs ?

I am scared because I don't want a love letter sent to my house. Love letter is slang for a letter sent by borders or an authority notifying you that an illegal package has been seized.

Don't waste your money, there is no way >95% SN could be available on Amazon

 

[softgirlluna]

Not sure about the legality of SN in the UK but I have ordered lots of drugs from Amsterdam to the uk (weed, 2cb, acid, diazepam.. you get the gist). All came fine, (maybe one or two didn't come either bc I was scammed or it was seized) this was 2020 - 2021 so maybe a bit different. I also know that if a package does randomly get seized (like if they had a sniffer dog) you would most likely just get a letter saying could not be delivered. Even if it was illicit. Which I'm not sure SN is.


Basically, the worst that will happen is it doesn't come or you have been scammed. You won't get police at your door

 

[motoko_s9]

All I could find was

Sel nitrité 0.6% - 400g pour Les Produits de charcuterie et de salaison

which looks like curing salt.

 

[FireFox]

Are you sure you found SN?
To my knowledge, you can no longer buy >95% SN on Amazon

Have you checked what percentage it is?

@Agon321 The SN Product I found on Amazon let me describe it.

It's a big bright yellow 25kg bag written all in French however Amazon website explains the product. The product is described as a Curing salts used in food preservation and it warns the product contains SN.

The warnings caution SN is dangerous for human consumption. Amazon has multiple warnings about SN

Ingredients:
vacuum salt, preservative sodium nitrite E250 (0,6%) ,anti -caking agent E535

All I could find was

SeNitrite Salt 25kgl nitrité 0.6% - 400g pour Les Produits de charcuterie et de salaison

which looks like curing salt.

@motoko_s9 It's similar to the one I found on Amazon. Amazon have curing salts with SN from France and Poland. The safety warnings I found were the following on the product I found.

This is why I want to buy it as I have a chance with death.

Safety Warning
Do not use as table salt, for food use only.

Legal Disclaimer
Sodium nitrite is toxic, do not use nitrate salt as table salt. For food use only. The legislation limits the use of sodium nitrite in meat products to a maximum amount added of 150 mg/kg, and in sterilised meat products (F0 > 3), to 100 mg/kg. For further information on nitrite salt please refer to the Food Additives Legislation Guidance to Compliance from the UK Food Standard Agency.

Don't waste your money, there is no way >95% SN could be available on Amazon

@Traveller12724 The SN amount which I found on Amazon is small. What if I try to buy multiple bags at separate times throughout the year to avoid suspicion.

Maybe if I do I could have a higher amount in total and I might have a good chance of dying.

Not sure about the legality of SN in the UK but I have ordered lots of drugs from Amsterdam to the uk (weed, 2cb, acid, diazepam.. you get the gist). All came fine, (maybe one or two didn't come either bc I was scammed or it was seized) this was 2020 - 2021 so maybe a bit different. I also know that if a package does randomly get seized (like if they had a sniffer dog) you would most likely just get a letter saying could not be delivered. Even if it was illicit. Which I'm not sure SN is.


Basically, the worst that will happen is it doesn't come or you have been scammed. You won't get police at your door

@softgirlluna you ordered drugs from Amsterdam oh my god.

I drink hemp tea and eat hemp gummies for relaxation. Hemp products have CBD and THC as it is in the family of cannabis plants.

UK drug laws are just bullshit and outdated. The main law governing drugs is the Miuse of Drugs Act 1971. CBD and THC are controlled substances under the misue of Drugs Act.

Hemp and CBD products are legal in the UK but HC levels must be 0.2% or lower. There are plenty of hemp products that are also THC free too. Other countries sell hemp products that are THC free or low THC but I don't want go through the bullshit of UK customs and their testing machines.

Anything higher will be confiscated by police and customs.

I hate hemp shopping in this country because there is not a diverse range of products to buy from. I buy domestically in the shops in my city. I wish there was more choice

 

[Agon321]

@Agon321 The SN Product I found on Amazon let me describe it.

It's a big bright yellow 25kg bag written all in French however Amazon website explains the product. The product is described as a Curing salts used in food preservation and it warns the product contains SN.

The warnings caution SN is dangerous for human consumption. Amazon has multiple warnings about SN

Ingredients:
vacuum salt, preservative sodium nitrite E250 (0,6%) ,anti -caking agent E535

So unfortunately you have the wrong product.
SN purity must be 95%-100%.

For 95%-100%, the standard dose of SN is 25 grams.

If SN is only a few percent pure, you would have to take a lot more SN.
You would most likely start vomiting a lot before you drank the dose you needed to die.

Also, the negative effects of SN would most likely be more unpleasant.

So don't buy this, because for our application, low purity SN is useless.

 

[FireFox]

So unfortunately you have the wrong product.
SN purity must be 95%-100%.

For 95%-100%, the standard dose of SN is 25 grams.

If SN is only a few percent pure, you would have to take a lot more SN.
You would most likely start vomiting a lot before you drank the dose you needed to die.

Also, the negative effects of SN would most likely be more unpleasant.

So don't buy this, because for our application, low purity SN is useless.

@Agon321 Thank you I was seriously considering buying the product on Amazon but I now know not to waste money.

 

[J&L383]

It will go through customs. The question is only do they have a closer look or your parcel just goes through. It's a risk.

I doubt that there is SN available on Amazon.

This is what I've heard as well on both accounts.