Opioid overdose thread/per Nitschke

[Arak]

Aside from all kinds of issues like tolerance and individual effects. I'm both asking for feedback and bringing this to people's attention.

His latest 'book' per October: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/october-edition-of-ppeh.7187/

In the 'Morphine and the opioids' chapter the discusses this class of drugs, in particular morphine and fentanyl.

Obviously, noone wants to suffer. But these are not miracle drugs. Morphine for suicide can be less effective than expected. Nitschke is almosty raving about fentanyl. See his Exit RP test. I have my questions.

There are stories about fentanyl killing people. Of course, fentanyl must not be confused with carfentanyl which is much more lethal. If one would believe the stories on the internet, fentanyl is almost a miracle for our purpose. But if it were so great, why is it not used for assisted suicide ? Nitschke is or was a doctor, and I'm skeptical of doctors. Anyway, injecting oneself with fentanyl or oral consumption is different from using patches.

I'm assuming an antiemetic must be used. Opinions, insights, ideas ?

 

[tevati]

For fentanyl you can rub it inside your gums this is more effectiv than drink it.

 

[Arak]

@tevati ,

For the full lethal dose, of patches ? I'm not so sure that's practical. This is not about recreational use. One needs many patches for that purpose. Injectable fentanyl is extremely hard to get, if not impossible.

 

[MAIO]

Aside from all kinds of issues like tolerance and individual effects. I'm both asking for feedback and bringing this to people's attention.

His latest 'book' per October: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/october-edition-of-ppeh.7187/

In the 'Morphine and the opioids' chapter the discusses this class of drugs, in particular morphine and fentanyl.

Obviously, noone wants to suffer. But these are not miracle drugs. Morphine for suicide can be less effective than expected. Nitschke is almosty raving about fentanyl. See his Exit RP test. I have my questions.

There are stories about fentanyl killing people. Of course, fentanyl must not be confused with carfentanyl which is much more lethal. If one would believe the stories on the internet, fentanyl is almost a miracle for our purpose. But if it were so great, why is it not used for assisted suicide ? Nitschke is or was a doctor, and I'm skeptical of doctors. Anyway, injecting oneself with fentanyl or oral consumption is different from using patches.

I'm assuming an antiemetic must be used. Opinions, insights, ideas ?

Fetanyl is 100x more potent than morphine. It's easy to die from overdose. Morphine is better for pain than a high and is harder to os on but still very douableZ

 

[drakewantstogo]

Aside from all kinds of issues like tolerance and individual effects. I'm both asking for feedback and bringing this to people's attention.

His latest 'book' per October: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/october-edition-of-ppeh.7187/

In the 'Morphine and the opioids' chapter the discusses this class of drugs, in particular morphine and fentanyl.

Obviously, noone wants to suffer. But these are not miracle drugs. Morphine for suicide can be less effective than expected. Nitschke is almosty raving about fentanyl. See his Exit RP test. I have my questions.

There are stories about fentanyl killing people. Of course, fentanyl must not be confused with carfentanyl which is much more lethal. If one would believe the stories on the internet, fentanyl is almost a miracle for our purpose. But if it were so great, why is it not used for assisted suicide ? Nitschke is or was a doctor, and I'm skeptical of doctors. Anyway, injecting oneself with fentanyl or oral consumption is different from using patches.

I'm assuming an antiemetic must be used. Opinions, insights, ideas ?

I've been thinking of ODing on fent these days. I know you need just a little to OD and die of it. I don't know the exact ammount, I'd have to research about it, but I know just a little would be fatal. So I've been looking in the dark net markets but it's really expensive for me. I'd really love to just snort some and go.

 

[voool]

If you mix alcohol and heroin. And use alot(half a gram of number 4) which probably has fentanyl in it anyway with a couple of shots. You will die.

 

[voool]

@tevati ,

For the full lethal dose, of patches ? I'm not so sure that's practical. This is not about recreational use. One needs many patches for that purpose. Injectable fentanyl is extremely hard to get, if not impossible.

Almost all heroin has fentanyl in it these days. Go on the darkwrb and get top notch heroin and snort it after taking a couple of shots. You'll die.

 

[voool]

Aside from all kinds of issues like tolerance and individual effects. I'm both asking for feedback and bringing this to people's attention.

His latest 'book' per October: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/october-edition-of-ppeh.7187/

In the 'Morphine and the opioids' chapter the discusses this class of drugs, in particular morphine and fentanyl.

Obviously, noone wants to suffer. But these are not miracle drugs. Morphine for suicide can be less effective than expected. Nitschke is almosty raving about fentanyl. See his Exit RP test. I have my questions.

There are stories about fentanyl killing people. Of course, fentanyl must not be confused with carfentanyl which is much more lethal. If one would believe the stories on the internet, fentanyl is almost a miracle for our purpose. But if it were so great, why is it not used for assisted suicide ? Nitschke is or was a doctor, and I'm skeptical of doctors. Anyway, injecting oneself with fentanyl or oral consumption is different from using patches.

I'm assuming an antiemetic must be used. Opinions, insights, ideas ?

He doesn't reccomend it because it because tolerance is a problem for morphine and can effect if an overdose is lethal. Also he mentions the reliability of street heroin and how most 65 year olds dont have a plug for street heroin. But you can order heroin online and have it to your doorstep in 3 days. Have a couple shots that snort the heroin and your dead in a few hours fully unconscious

 

[Arak]

@MAIO ,

Accidental overdoses are often easier than on purpose ...

@voool ,

Not everybody is vulnerable to the opiate and sedative combo. Heroin, never used it. Wouldn't know where to get it except possibly dark web which has all sorts of issues.

 

[voool]

@MAIO ,

Accidental overdoses are often easier than on purpose ...

@voool ,

Not everybody is vulnerable to the opiate and sedative combo. Heroin, never used it. Wouldn't know where to get it except possibly dark web which has all sorts of issues.

It's just as easy if not easier to get heroin on the "darkweb" than getting N from A. And yes opiates in sufficient doses will kill you.

 

[MAIO]

@MAIO ,

Accidental overdoses are often easier than on purpose ...

@voool ,

Not everybody is vulnerable to the opiate and sedative combo. Heroin, never used it. Wouldn't know where to get it except possibly dark web which has all sorts of issues.

It is very easy to kill yourself with a morphine overdose if you not care if it looks intentional. If you care about it looking accidentanit it's much more dofficult

 

[voool]

It is very easy to kill yourself with a morphine overdose if you not care if it looks intentional. If you care about it looking accidentanit it's much more dofficult

If you dont care about looking like a junkie its easy. Just shoot the heroin. And drink. Then die. I plan to do this soon. I will leave a note though. It's better to be honest. I wouldn't want my final act to be a lie

 

[Arak]

@voool,

Heroin isn't as common in Europe as in the USA I think. I have no idea about getting it from the dark web, I don't know if there are any European sellers and I'm not sure about importing the stuff ... I have no idea how potent it is. I have never taken the stuff and am not looking forward to shooting an unknown quantity of an unknown product into my veins ... I'm sorry, not to be rude but I'm not a junkie.

@MAIO,

Nitschke has a few things to say about M. I think that a lethal overdose of morphine for me would at best be unreliable.

 

[voool]

@voool,

Heroin isn't as common in Europe as in the USA I think. I have no idea about getting it from the dark web, I don't know if there are any European sellers and I'm not sure about importing the stuff ... I have no idea how potent it is. I have never taken the stuff and am not looking forward to shooting an unknown quantity of an unknown product into my veins ... I'm sorry, not to be rude but I'm not a junkie.

@MAIO,

Nitschke has a few things to say about M. I think that a lethal overdose of morphine for me would at best be unreliable.

It's just as common in Europe. There are many European sellers. You dont have to shoot it. You can snort it.

 

[Arak]

It's almost as if you're trying to market it ... I already responded.

 

[Schopenhauer]

I agree with @Arak. For those with no experience with drugs, it's a very scary prospect. You'll be shooting/snorting an unknown substance, from an unreliable seller. With N there's actual research behind the method, and a reliable seller.

Maybe if I were desperate, but it'd never be my first choice.

 

[voool]

I agree with @Arak. For those with no experience with drugs, it's a very scary prospect. You'll be shooting/snorting an unknown substance, from an unreliable seller. With N there's actual research behind the method, and a reliable seller.

Maybe if I were desperate, but it'd never be my first choice.

Well I see people using SN which seems painful and its known to fail if you're found. Like if your found with heroin except you will have legit brain damage from SN. And I see people forking out 800 dollars to pay for N which may not arrive. I think this is the real poormans peaceful pill.

 

[jizz676]

can I ingest heroin or morphine and die peacefully? Have I to snort and mix with alcohol?

 

[jizz676]

what happens if you eat the natural original opium? can you die peacefully?

 

[Cody111]

You can ingest opiates like heroin.
If it comes in a powder form thoigh your gonna struggle with the taste.
You can wrap it in a small bit of toilet paper and drink it quickly like a makeshift capsule but you gotta get it down fast before it breaks or opens. Also will be slighly less effective as snorting or injecting.

Snorting will leave a bad taste in back of your throat but its manageable.

Injecting is instant and as potant as it can get. Though im with most people, not wanting to shoot up.

 

[311]

Why is fentanyl so great if you have heroin or oxy. Just take more of the heroin or oxy or morphine. Btw If you buy heroin it 80% of the time has fent in it.

 

[Cody111]

Id personally go with oxy. Comes in medical grade pills even when obtailed through illegal channels so almost never cut with anything else.

Only issue is in my country all opiates are scheduled. Cant even buy codine and panadol wothout a script.
Its so hard to find any sort of opiate that isnt tramadol which as said before doesnt act in the same way as other opiates.

 

[311]

Id personally go with oxy. Comes in medical grade pills even when obtailed through illegal channels so almost never cut with anything else.

Only issue is in my country all opiates are scheduled. Cant even buy codine and panadol wothout a script.
Its so hard to find any sort of opiate that isnt tramadol which as said before doesnt act in the same way as other opiates.

Oxy is a commonly counterfeited drug tho.

 

[Cody111]

Oxy is a commonly counterfeited drug tho.

Hmm is possible. Never come across counterfeit oxy where i am but then the market here wouldnt really be big enough to fake it.

 

[jizz676]

is the respiratory depression or arrest painful? can you feel to suffocate?

 

[jizz676]

If I injest alcohol some anthipsichotics and heroin..would it work? how many grams and how many dollars would i need?

 

[Arak]

@jizz676 , not if caused by opiates. You simply lose consciousness, the brain stops sending the 'breathe' signal to your lungs and you'll die. Assuming this continues uninterrupted till your death.

I don't know what antipsychotics would do.

 

[311]

If I injest alcohol some anthipsichotics and heroin..would it work? how many grams and how many dollars would i need?

You'd probably need 100 bucks to get some heroin from the darkweb.

 

[jizz676]

im thinking that after N, CO is the funniest method

 

[Letmego. Please]

To everyone asking about ingesting H or opium - Just don't, massive waste of money as it has the lowest bioavailability of any route of administration, so just no.