Only the person who experiences the same thing as you can understand you.

[wsx-rt]

Only the person who experiences the same thing as you can understand you.

 

[Ash]

But no two people experience the same event in the same way so we can only empathise not truly understand...

 

[bearbrikk]

I struggled with this a lottt. And when I told my therapist about it she said the same thing ''Nobody on this planet experienced the exact same thing as you''. I always hated that sentence because I so desperately needed someone to hear me, and to understand me. I came to think that what I actually longed for was someone to stop, look me in the eyes, and listen to me. To try to understand and with that I mean show genuine Empathy and interest in my thoughts and feelings.

 

[Lady Laudanum]

The only person who actually understood me had no choice but to leave me because I was unintentionally driving their mental health into the ground. I singlehandedly destroyed that relationship and I'm never getting that connection back. Ever since then, it's felt like my soul is lost at sea.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Only the person who experiences the same thing as you can understand you.

I agree with that!! For the avg person who has avg ups and downs it's impossible to understand how much suffering it needs to really consider suicide and preparing a method.

I recall a talk with a very good friend who repeatedly told me that my situation will "get better" and "he was in a similar situation years ago and made it" and nuking myself (aka CTB) isn't an option.

All I did was asking him if he prepared his method at that time and was just one step away from the other side - then there was SILENCE!

 

[wsx-rt]

I struggled with this a lottt. And when I told my therapist about it she said the same thing ''Nobody on this planet experienced the exact same thing as you''. I always hated that sentence because I so desperately needed someone to hear me, and to understand me. I came to think that what I actually longed for was someone to stop, look me in the eyes, and listen to me. To try to understand and with that I mean show genuine Empathy and interest in my thoughts and feelings.

I had it too, my psychologist tried for many years to convince me that I need to live, but now I understand that a person is free to choose his own path

 

[fireplace19]

The only person who actually understood me had no choice but to leave me because I was unintentionally driving their mental health into the ground. I singlehandedly destroyed that relationship and I'm never getting that connection back. Ever since then, it's felt like my soul is lost at sea.

I feel you, my partner is still with me atm but seems to desperately wish I was just some normal healthy guy. I wish people could just respect and love us for how we are and support us. I hope you find someone to be strong for you.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Anyone who's experienced as much as me is someone to be afraid of. I can't even expect myself to be a good person. I only fail to be evil sometimes thanks to laziness and cowardice, imagine if someone without those things had some of my experiences.

Actually maybe that person would just get over it and be perfectly fine. I bet I'm alone in how I've handled my minor inconveniences and the fact that seemingly trivial things were still enough to destroy my soul just goes to show how unfit for life I am.

 

[bearbrikk]

I had it too, my psychologist tried for many years to convince me that I need to live, but now I understand that a person is free to choose his own path

That feeling is freeing in a sence. But still there is a very normal desire to be listened to and understood.

 

[wsx-rt]

People who are mentally ill after many years of suffering are left alone in their problems, society does not want to accept such people, especially in the third world countries where I live, a person is left alone, plus social disability, work disability, misunderstanding of relatives and friends, you are left without money - absolutely poor, loneliness, poverty and illness, mental and physical suffering, this is very difficult, and the only way out here is death, so that this suffering stops

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I feel you, my partner is still with me atm but seems to desperately wish I was just some normal healthy guy. I wish people could just respect and love us for how we are and support us. I hope you find someone to be strong for you.

No need to find someone to be strong for me when the desire for revenge against my abusive parents completely consumes me and keeps me alive. I've made a convoluted plan and I'll do everything within my power to see it come to fruition. The best part is that what I want to do is not only fully legal, but people who grew up with Asian culture are going to think I'm such a great person even though I have the worst intentions.

My ex basically told me that I was allowing myself to be completely consumed by hatred. He said I'm better off just sitting back, doing nothing, and collecting the insurance payouts as well as the inheritance. I'll get that money regardless of what happens. I just need to take my dad's autonomy away, and make my mom face the consequences of her apathy.

 

[fireplace19]

No need to find someone to be strong for me when the desire for revenge against my abusive parents completely consumes me and keeps me alive. I've made a convoluted plan and I'll do everything within my power to see it come to fruition. The best part is that what I want to do is not only fully legal, but people who grew up with Asian culture are going to think I'm such a great person even though I have the worst intentions.

My ex basically told me that I was allowing myself to be completely consumed by hatred. He said I'm better off just sitting back, doing nothing, and collecting the insurance payouts as well as the inheritance. I'll get that money regardless of what happens. I just need to take my dad's autonomy away, and make my mom face the consequences of her apathy.

I hate people who are neutral and force others to join their apathy. You feel what you feel and do what you want.

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I hate people who are neutral and force others to join their apathy. You feel what you feel and do what you want.

I'm glad I found this forum. It's a breath of fucking fresh air to see people respect my wishes and the rationale behind them, instead of telling me that I'm evil or that I need to just let go of the past. I admit that I'm no saint but I would never purposely hurt someone who doesn't deserve it. I also reserve the right to never forgive my parents.

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

It is the cave of Plato but it is also about egoism and compassion for the suffering of others.

 

[bin]

Only the person who experiences the same thing as you can understand you.

yes, i think this is true. all understanding is found through communication, and all communication is founded in common understanding. to share our minds with another person, what we've seen or felt or imagined, is no trivial matter. but still, we can try, we can even do a pretty good job at it if we try. all communication relies on our abilities to understand and share the thoughts and feelings of another person as if they were our own, to empathize with them.

here's an example i can imagine for you:
a sighted woman confides in her blind friend after she's seen a terrible car accident occur the day before. she tells him all about how horrible it was to see something so violent and grotesque and disturbing play out in front of her eyes. the blind man, though he hasn't witnessed the same car accident as her, though he hasn't seen the same awful sight as she has, though he couldn't have even possibly have seen it due to his sightlessness, he can still empathize with her. he can still imagine what it would have been like if he had been there, although it might have presented completely differently to his mind. he can imagine the explosive noise of the crash, the heat of the flames on his face, the smell of the airbags and burning rubber. indeed, the event might have been even more terrifying for him to experience, not able to see what was going on.. and though each element of his imagined experience may be different from what his friend went through, though he doesn't even share the same kind of visual-spatial world model with her, he can still relate in a very meaningful way to her experience of the event. he can empathize with the emotions that were there for her, the shock, fear and disgust, the helplessness and horror of it all. he was not there as she was, nor could he have ever been. but still, many times in his life, he has felt the same emotions that were there, and through those emotions he can empathize with her trauma.

of course, different people will have different bases of experience, different abilities to creatively apply their own similar experiences in order to imagine living yours, and more or less willingness to submit the required mental effort to search and synthesize their own memories into a truly genuine and heartfelt empathetic effort. but there are people out there who can and will try to do this with you, and i hope that you will be open to it when that person is with you <3

 

[ijustwishtodie]

This is exactly why euthanasia will never be legalised for us. This is one shitty world

 

[FuneralCry]

And that's why nobody else could ever truly understand as they cannot experience existence in the same way, we are the only ones experiencing our existence, as humans we really are all alone.