Venting Only death can solve all problems.

[FuneralCry]

This is why the thought of not existing comforts me so much as death solves everything. Whatever problems people are burdened with in this existence will all be erased by death as after all, all suffering is ultimately as a result of existence.

Death is the absence of all harm as all we know disappears once we cease existing and is forgotten about, and of course this is a reason as to why I believe it's better to not exist under every circumstance, as only nothingness is perfection.
And this is why it's so insane when people label suicide as being "irrational" as death literally solves everything, death brings peace and relief from an existence that was completely unnecessary anyway.

It's really tragic how life even exists as there was simply no need something so futile and harmful, it's a tragedy how anyone had to suffer in the first place.
Wanting suicide is all that could ever feel right for me and makes sense, suicide feels like the only rational thing to wish for when it's the only true escape from all suffering, I see existence itself as the ultimate problem that can only be solved by death.

 

[アホペンギン]

I agree, those who view suicide as something irrational and those who want to commit suicide are selfish and cowardly to want to do so are actually the irrational ones. They somehow don't understand what agony life has brought us and how we were so unfortunate to have to endure it all until now, on top of being stripped of our right to die by others. Death is the only escape from all of this suffering and its tragic how we're still being forced to stay here against our wills because of someone's twisted and evil ideology on how life is amazing when all the were was too fortunate throughout their lives to understand our problems.

 

[Dying Knight]

Speaking honestly, in most cases, death doesn't solve everything, because the inability to get a pleasure afterwards is also a problem. Death is just a compromise between this problem and other problems which may be presumed as more important.

 

[Seered Doom]

Well, the opposite of Life is Death after all. Both coexist in a ying yang type of avail.....

 

[SpiritualDeath]

Speaking honestly, in most cases, death doesn't solve everything, because the inability to get a pleasure afterwards is also a problem. Death is just a compromise between this problem and other problems which may be presumed as more important.

I don't see the inability to get pleasure after death as a problem, since after death there'll be no desires for pleasure in the first place. You can only say that it's a problem for the living. The non-existent are not deprived of anything.

 

[Dying Knight]

I don't see the inability to get pleasure after death as a problem, since after death there'll be no desires for pleasure in the first place. You can only say that it's a problem for the living. The non-existent are not deprived of anything.

The existence of some future time where we don't exist doesn't cancel the existence of our feelings and our formed values in the moments of time where we are alive. Your future non-existing self will not suffer from the absence of pleasure, but your currently alive self probably would recognize it as a problem.

Let's imagine that you will suffer from a strong contiguous pain since the beginning of 2024 to the end of 2030. Would you consider this circumstance as a non-problem if you just start thinking that in 2200 nobody will care about your long sufferings during the given period?

 

[SpiritualDeath]

The existence of some future time where we don't exist doesn't cancel the existence of our feelings and our formed values in the moments of time where we are alive. Your future non-existing self will not suffer from the absence of pleasure, but your currently alive self probably would recognize it as a problem.

Let's imagine that you will suffer from a strong contiguous pain since the beginning of 2024 to the end of 2030. Would you consider this circumstance as a non-problem if you just start thinking that in 2200 nobody will care about your long sufferings during the given period?

My currently alive self would only recognize the deprivation of pleasure when I'm alive as a problem, not the inability of getting pleasure after I die.

Let's say that I will suffer from this contiguous pain. If I don't exist I wouldn't suffer from it in the first place (there's no "me" existing to suffer from it, so not a problem). In 2200 I'll be dead already, so again no one would be suffering, and this stops being a problem in 2200 as well. During this period from 2024 to 2030 I'll surely suffer (and therefore it's surely a problem), but if I decide to die, my suffering stops instantly after I die, that is, the earlier I die the less I suffer.

Problems only plague the existent. In this sense death does solve everything.

 

[Forever Sleep]

From a personal perspective, I agree with you- it can feel like the best option to an individual. If the people in their life truly love them- they should also be able to see the pain they are in. If they are pro-life, they may believe they can still help them to make life enjoyable but I don't think everyone can be saved. I wish we felt more able to talk about our feelings with loved ones so that there was more understanding.

Death is messy though. It causes grief- sometimes unbearable grief in others. Some people are on this site because they can't cope with the loss of a loved one. I don't think death is experienced as the harmonious, glorious solution you paint it to be to those left behind. Put it this way- if you woke tomorrow morning to find all of your family had killed themselves- would you honestly only feel happy for them? Would you really feel no negative emotions?

 

[Dying Knight]

but if I decide to die, my suffering stops instantly after I die, that is, the earlier I die the less I suffer.

Why does it matter at all how much more or less you suffer if in 2200 nobody will care about that amount of suffering anyway?

I could bet that you'd consider the aforementioned suffering as an undesirable circumstance which ideally should never take place, regardless of the fact that there are a lot of moments of time when nobody would give a damn about this situation. If we consider the suffering as a potential problem, the only true solution for it will be a prevention of the pain, rather than reaching the time when nobody pays an attention to it.

When we consider our life as a whole, every additional episode of suffering is a problem and a loss of potentially possible pleasure is also a problem.

This may have valuable practical implications when you do an attempt to kill yourself. Even though this "solves everything" thesis may seem a valid point of view at the current moment, in the last moment, your intuition may tell you that you're mistaken with your "smart ass" logic. And then, being in a "funny" situation, you'll begin to discuss some questions with yourself, regarding the potential loss associated with your actions.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Technically death doesn't solve squat. Sure you no longer have to deal with them any more, but that's not semantically tantamount "to solving" them.