Not committing suicide because it is painful

[Tiktok]

The main reason I haven't done it yet is because I'm obviously really scared of the pain. But I don't get it. Why does it even matter if it's painful if I'm going to die anyway. I may suffer greatly for some seconds or minutes but then I won't exist. I was thinking of jumping from a high building but I know that realistically I can't do it because I can't imagine my bones breaking and blood splitting everywhere after I suffered the greatest suffering. But why does it matter still. Ugh.

 

[s1mplem3]

Pain exists only in our life, dead people feel nothing.

 

[thx1138]

Survival instinct is a bitch. It's totally understandable to be scared of the pain. Even one second can feel a lot longer when you're in extreme pain. I'm really sorry you're dealing with this.

 

[Paull]

The main reason I haven't done it yet is because I'm obviously really scared of the pain. But I don't get it. Why does it even matter if it's painful if I'm going to die anyway. I may suffer greatly for some seconds or minutes but then I won't exist. I was thinking of jumping from a high building but I know that realistically I can't do it because I can't imagine my bones breaking and blood splitting everywhere after I suffered the greatest suffering. But why does it matter still. Ugh.

Have you thought of sn?

 

[ExitStageLeft]

The problem with it is not that you'll survive, but that death is a process and that there will be some indeterminant period in which you will still be "aware", before your brain fully achieves death, which may subjectively be far longer than the actual process of achieving clinical death.

My recommendation: fentanyl, if you have access to it, combined with N.

 

[Paull]

The problem with it is not that you'll survive, but that death is a process and that there will be some indeterminant period in which you will still be "aware", before your brain fully achieves death, which may subjectively be far longer than the actual process of achieving clinical death.

My recommendation: fentanyl, if you have access to it, combined with N.

Why not sn?

 

[calendulo]

Sadly, I already solved that problem.............about pàin.
I am fairly agree with the survival instinct, to die is not an easy thing, I would say that is like climbing a fucked mountain; It is always asking one effort more, the extra mile, and when you think you have arrived up, there is always another peak to climb it.

No, imho pain is a problem which can be solved, but against SI always loses.

 

[ExitStageLeft]

SN causes a great deal of discomfort, as I understand it. It also is not particularly quick.

 

[jgm63]

Why not sn?

The pros of SN are legality, cost, accessibility.
Other methods rate higher in peacefulness, but can be a major headache in terms of sourcing them, cost, and considering legal implications, etc.
e.g. Some people spend several months going through all the many hurdles of the sourcing process.

 

[HorribleFeelings1]

Pain exists only in our life, dead people feel nothing.

FACTS

 

[ExitStageLeft]

FACTS

Again, I would challenge you on this. The brain continues to operate for quite some time after clinical death has been achieved - indeed, death is a continual process, and there's no reason to believe that it occurs in real-time from the subjective perspective of the deceased.

The fastest method is almost certainly a shotgun blast to the head. But in terms of accessibility/cost/etc., N+fent is the way to go.

 

[Tiktok]

The problem with it is not that you'll survive, but that death is a process and that there will be some indeterminant period in which you will still be "aware", before your brain fully achieves death, which may subjectively be far longer than the actual process of achieving clinical death.

My recommendation: fentanyl, if you have access to it, combined with N.

What is N?

 

[Shinbu]

What is N?

Nembutal

 

[calendulo]

I think that N is Nitrogen, pento had not sense.

 

[ExitStageLeft]

It's Nembutal.

The ideal method of suicide is almost certainly N, followed by an injection of fentanyl.

 

[artificialpasta]

N is almost impossible to get though.

 

[ExitStageLeft]

Then fentanyl alone. It's preferable to SN because it is far quicker, and this does matter - "you" will be conscious to some degree after clinical death.

 

[artificialpasta]

Right, but those are all prescription drugs. The average person doesn't have access to opioids, which is why I assume the next best thing is SN. The tradeoffs can be reduced by acetaminophen or meto.

 

[time2register]

Heroin is supposedly more desirable than fentanyl.

 

[ExitStageLeft]

It should be possible to acquire either on the street with a little knowledge.

 

[time2register]

It should be possible to acquire either on the street with a little knowledge.

You lost a lot of people with that.. myself included.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The main reason I haven't done it yet is because I'm obviously really scared of the pain. But I don't get it. Why does it even matter if it's painful if I'm going to die anyway. I may suffer greatly for some seconds or minutes but then I won't exist. I was thinking of jumping from a high building but I know that realistically I can't do it because I can't imagine my bones breaking and blood splitting everywhere after I suffered the greatest suffering. But why does it matter still. Ugh.

In my opinion, some methods can be painLess if done right. N,F,H, SN, co, Nitrogen, and the freediving blackout methods are painLess imo. It does take a lot of research , obtaining knowledge,planning,focus,practice and visualization, visualization, visualization to do this as is the case with anything difficult.

But i do agree, you are right , after i'm dead i won't feel any pain nor remember any thing imo cause i won't exist.

 

[ExitStageLeft]

Again, unless you totally obliterate your brain, you will continue to 'exist' for quite a long time after clinical death.

 

[muffin222]

It's understandable to want to avoid pain. It's our natural instinct to try to minimize pain and maximize pleasure (to a degree). I do think the fixation on pain is a small, but subtle flag that a person isn't totally ready to ctb...which is fine, of course I say this because I think of all the people who've committed suicide through full suspension hanging, with shoelaces and bedsheets and scarves in prisons or institutions, from jumping off buildings, even things like seppuku or drinking drain cleaner etc. These people don't think about pain or try to minimize it as much as possible. They just do it. They pick a method and they go because they've firmly decided within that the pain of living far exceeds the potential pain of whatever method they choose to die.

Those are the ones who ctb successfully. Now, I'm not saying that's good or bad, but it seems to be the case for a lot of people, including those of us on this forum. I don't think there's a totally painless death for 99.9% of people who ctb because it's our bodies natural inclination to fight unnatural and premature death whenever possible, using a wide array of physiological and mental faculties, pain being one of them. For the people truly dead-set on suicide, however, none of that is enough to deter them once they've made their final choice. That seems to be the key distinction between those who do and those who don't; the people who ctb successfully know that there likely will be pain during death, but they do it anyway. I don't think that's the answer a lot of us here (myself included, because fuck pain ) want to hear, but it seems to be the case

 

[Donk]

Again, unless you totally obliterate your brain, you will continue to 'exist' for quite a long time after clinical death.

whats your definition of "exist"? you would still be aware of your existance? feel pain?

 

[calendulo]

To take pento and moreover fentanyl is the craziest thing than I have heard ever.
Excessive and so dangerous.
A barbiturate is good enough to achieve a self deliverance quiet and safe.

 

[ExitStageLeft]

whats your definition of "exist"? you would still be aware of your existance? feel pain?

The former, yes. And this continues for some indefinite length of time.

 

[Erase.myself]

My method of choice I've been researching is SN. But now reading through these posts I'm thinking I can ctb with fentanyl instead. My ex sells H that's laced with F. May just take longer to get some $$ and also more time. Im already a heroin addict, so it makes it easily accessible. Problem is that I have trouble hitting myself . I seem to miss my veins or they roll. I usually ask ppl to hit me, but nobody is going to hit me and NOT bring me back. I've been brought back to life from accidentally OD three times . Fuck my life.

 

[Mistake of Nature]

The problem with it is not that you'll survive, but that death is a process and that there will be some indeterminant period in which you will still be "aware", before your brain fully achieves death, which may subjectively be far longer than the actual process of achieving clinical death.

My recommendation: fentanyl, if you have access to it, combined with N.

This right here is what stops me. I've never been afraid of being dead, but thinking about the actual process of dying -- and the possibility of being aware or conscious on some level that I am dying -- fills me with panic and terror.

 

[JSauter]

SN causes a great deal of discomfort, as I understand it. It also is not particularly quick.

Not denying it, but where did you get this understanding from?