Venting Not accepted here even in place for lost causes

[timetodie24]

Too many here believe I don't have a right to die just because they want to apply some BS diagnosis to me. No one understands.
You don't even want to know the things that will happen and the things I will do if I live.
I will not be fooled into speaking to so-called professionals again. They are in on it and lives will be lost if I do.

 

[Linda]

In my view, and in the view of most users of this site, you certainly have a right to die if you choose to do so. Whether or not it is a good idea to exercise that right (now, or at some future date) is a separate question.

 

[timetodie24]

In my view, and in the view of most users of this site, you certainly have a right to die if you choose to do so. Whether or not it is a good idea to exercise that right (now, or at some future date) is a separate question.

That's fair and only I know if and when it's a good idea for me. I have no issue with people saying 'well have you considered X first' but it's when people insist that they know better, telling me what I should do and trying to diagnose me.

 

[DoubleUp8]

Most here are younger. Way younger than me anyway. I always implore you younger people to please try any and every alternative 1st. Don't do it for a frivolous reason. I knew a guy years ago who ctb'd because he was with an evil chick and couldn't perform sexually. Couldn't get it up as people say. The evil bitch ridiculed him and told all his friends and co-workers and he ctb'd for that reason. I regret to this day that I did not have an opportunity to talk with him b4 he did. He was a young guy and I think I could have convinced him that this isn't a big deal and not a good reason to ctb. He hadn't much experience sexually and didn't really understand this is not a big deal and can happen for a variety of reasons. It was years ago and I don't remember if Viagra was invented yet. But I know I could have convinced him it's no reason to ctb.

 

[lizzywizzy09]

Most here are younger. Way younger than me anyway. I always implore you younger people to please try any and every alternative 1st. Don't do it for a frivolous reason. I knew a guy years ago who ctb'd because he was with an evil chick and couldn't perform sexually. Couldn't get it up as people say. The evil bitch ridiculed him and told all his friends and co-workers and he ctb'd for that reason. I regret to this day that I did not have an opportunity to talk with him b4 he did. He was a young guy and I think I could have convinced him that this isn't a big deal and not a good reason to ctb. He hadn't much experience sexually and didn't really understand this is not a big deal and can happen for a variety of reasons. It was years ago and I don't remember if Viagra was invented yet. But I know I could have convinced him it's no reason to ctb.

100%. That's the kind of thing that seems like the biggest deal in the world when young but the passage of time changes that.

 

[Tesha]

You don't even want to know the things that will happen and the things I will do if I live.

I've seen your previous posts and I actually think most people here respect your right to die. I think they are checking if you feel it's really right for you at this moment in your life.

If you want to share what might happen / what you might do, I'm sure we'll listen.

 

[LaughingGoat]

That's fair and only I know if and when it's a good idea for me. I have no issue with people saying 'well have you considered X first' but it's when people insist that they know better, telling me what I should do and trying to diagnose me.

I get frustration if you feel like people are trying to diagnose you but if you go on the internet and share an opinion or info about yourself or ask a question, people are going to respond with their thoughts. No one one here can make you do or not do anything, but there's 10s of thousands of users on this site. Some of those people are going to be insistent, comes with the territory of any discussion open to that many strangers.

 

[DoubleUp8]

100%. That's the kind of thing that seems like the biggest deal in the world when young but the passage of time changes that.

Experience of someone older and the 1st thing I would have impressed on him is. " That's not your fault. It's really HER fault" And she was 1 evil bitch to humiliate him that way. Not just that but she had a history of doing shit like that. She really weaponized her good looks against guys. Classic tease. Intentionally make guys jealous. Get good friends to fight over her. I could fill up pages about the rotten stuff she did to 1 guy after another.
Divine mistress and lady laudanum are 2 of the most outstanding user names on here. I told divine mistress b4 and this is 1st I've seen lady laudanum. Both great names!

 

[timetodie24]

I have many serious not frivolous reasons. I have tried so many things including many therapies and medications. There is no other option fot me and not a decision I take lightly.

So sorry about the guy you knew though, that's really sad

Most here are younger. Way younger than me anyway. I always implore you younger people to please try any and every alternative 1st. Don't do it for a frivolous reason. I knew a guy years ago who ctb'd because he was with an evil chick and couldn't perform sexually. Couldn't get it up as people say. The evil bitch ridiculed him and told all his friends and co-workers and he ctb'd for that reason. I regret to this day that I did not have an opportunity to talk with him b4 he did. He was a young guy and I think I could have convinced him that this isn't a big deal and not a good reason to ctb. He hadn't much experience sexually and didn't really understand this is not a big deal and can happen for a variety of reasons. It was years ago and I don't remember if Viagra was invented yet. But I know I could have convinced him it's no reason to ctb.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I stand by what I said in one of your other postings and that is that I believe you need professional help to see if these"voices" you hear telling you to do things can be quashed. I'm sorry you're having such a hard time of things.

 

[Linda]

Most here are younger. Way younger than me anyway. I always implore you younger people to please try any and every alternative 1st. Don't do it for a frivolous reason. I knew a guy years ago who ctb'd because he was with an evil chick and couldn't perform sexually. Couldn't get it up as people say. The evil bitch ridiculed him and told all his friends and co-workers and he ctb'd for that reason. I regret to this day that I did not have an opportunity to talk with him b4 he did. He was a young guy and I think I could have convinced him that this isn't a big deal and not a good reason to ctb. He hadn't much experience sexually and didn't really understand this is not a big deal and can happen for a variety of reasons. It was years ago and I don't remember if Viagra was invented yet. But I know I could have convinced him it's no reason to ctb.

Agreed. The first thing you do is try to help people deal with their problems. Many problems are minor (like that one), or only temporary, or can be fixed. In such cases I discourage someone from catching the bus. It gets harder when problems are serious, probably permanent, and don't seem to have any solution. All you can do then is offer emotional support. Sometimes that's enough, and all that a person is looking for. But if someone in that situation chooses to ctb, I respect their choice. I'll continue to offer emotional support, if I can, but I won't try to discourage them (unless they are planing to use a method that is more likely to leave them badly injured than to kill them, in which case I will suggest they look for a diffrent method).

 

[DoubleUp8]

Agreed. The first thing you do is try to help people deal with their problems. Many problems are minor (like that one), or only temporary, or can be fixed. In such cases I discourage someone from catching the bus. It gets harder when problems are serious, probably permanent, and don't seem to have any solution. All you can do then is offer emotional support. Sometimes that's enough, and all that a person is looking for. But if someone in that situation chooses to ctb, I respect their choice. I'll continue to offer emotional support, if I can, but I won't try to discourage them (unless they are planing to use a method that is more likely to leave them badly injured than to kill them, in which case I will suggest they look for a diffrent method).

Linda was my sister's name. You make so much sense. There are minor and temporary problems. There are big and intractable problems. There's also situations where there is a multitude of problems both big and small that can overwhelm someone and that's the situation I find myself in. And if I try to get help for anything, the medical powers that be here in new Jersey just want to reduce everything to a mental health issue which is really non-existent. Ignore the obvious physical issues and disability and inability to get adequate medical care. Ignore the issues with transportation and housing. Ignore the financial issues that get harder every day with today's inflation. Ignore the fact that social security cost of living adjustments haven't come close to keeping up with actual inflation. Ignore the facts that i have no place to live and can't afford to live. They just want to defraud Medicare and me with there phony forced and heavy handed mental health bullshit and it really pisses me off they get away with gaming the system for profit while not actually doing 1 damn thing to help. And here they don't even pretend or feign concern. They are flagrantly obvious about scamming and you don't want to go to this hospital for any reason because they will do this whether you say you're thinking about suicide or not. They will put words in your mouth and misconstrue whatever you say so it fits the narrative that suits them. Meanwhile I get no help for any 1 of my actual problems but they make money.

 

[timetodie24]

We have a saying in my country: "Don't let the bastards grind you down." Stay away from brain meds and psychologists, they're all spooks.

It's ironic when so many here harmed by psychs/professionals or treatments didn't help. Yet then act like it's a cure and that everything can be cured by a few meds. Meds actually made me more suicidal and ended up trying stupid impulsive things that could've left me with serious health issues instead. No meds can make me a worthy person or stop me being targeted .

 

[ImTelling]

It's ironic when so many here harmed by psychs/professionals or treatments didn't help. Yet then act like it's a cure and that everything can be cured by a few meds. Meds actually made me more suicidal and ended up trying stupid impulsive things that could've left me with serious health issues instead. No meds can make me a worthy person or stop me being targeted .

Couldn't agree more. God speed!

 

[hadenough58]

Most here are younger. Way younger than me anyway. I always implore you younger people to please try any and every alternative 1st. Don't do it for a frivolous reason.

I am 65 and I am surprised by the amount of young people on here as I never even considered ctb when I was young
But having said that I think they live far different lives than we did at that age but it is never a bad idea to take a step back and reconsider what will be your final ever decision

 

[Praestat_Mori]

The vast majority here agrees with the right to die upon personal reasons but the younger someone is the more chances and options they still have for a better. None of us knows the future and CTB is always the way out of this existence but it's never easy.

 

[timetodie24]

@hadenough58 @Praestat_Mori
I get that age means more chances but isn't always the case. I'm 23, been suicidal half my life and mental health services already given up on me. Being younger also means many more years to suffer, things only keep getting worse. I've already had enough now so it is cruel if I had to endure many more years of this. And some of my problems come from being autistic which is life long so that doesn't improve with age. And I have 0 interest in working, relationships, travel, family, etc. , I have no life goals so nothing to stick around for.

 

[DoubleUp8]

I am 65 and I am surprised by the amount of young people on here as I never even considered ctb when I was young
But having said that I think they live far different lives than we did at that age but it is never a bad idea to take a step back and reconsider what will be your final ever decision

Only your final decision if successful. But your point about their lives being different well taken. They will live the entirety of their lives in the 21st century. I'm glad i at least didn't have to.