"Normal people" just don't get it

[demuic]

I go to my advisor and she says basically the same things I heard all my life. "try harder" "just do it" "get motivated" "you can focus" "stop playing around"

No, I fucking can't. You're not the one who's been living my life all this time. I've tried and tried and it's gotten me nowhere but to failure again and again. People think we've never heard this meaningless self help shit and that because they're the one saying it, it'll magically fix shit or something. So dumb.

They don't know how terrible it is to live with a severe mental condition, or multiple of them.

I hate being alive in this idiotic world.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

Stop playing around? That's so rude. Mental illness isn't something to be taken so lightly. Her words could quite literally drive someone to suicide.

 

[Broken Chimera]

Stop playing around? Who says that to someone who's suffering? That person shouldn't be allowed to advise anyone with advice like that.

 

[Drowning fish]

"Get motivated, just do it, stop playing around", wow thanks ! Guess that just cured my mental illness and my will to die. Guess that's what every suicidal and depressed person should hear, that's totally going to fix their life ! :)
Bitch, it's mean but I wish every single person who says that go through severe depression at least once. At least, it would teach them.

 

[Soulless Angel]

What the fuck is normal any more? I literally have no idea. People suck, like seriously suck ass!

 

[Wayfaerer]

Trying to express your experience to normals is fruitless 10/10 times. I've given up on it.

 

[Valon]

This world sucks. I have no desire to "get better" honestly. It's my thought process that has changed and it's likely the root of all my problems. I just can't go back to the way I used to be before I became suicidal. I just know too much now, and I know this world is shitty and selfish, and there's no point in trying to fix myself when the issue is with society itself.

 

[601424]

This world sucks. I have no desire to "get better" honestly. It's my thought process that has changed and it's likely the root of all my problems. I just can't go back to the way I used to be before I became suicidal. I just know too much now, and I know this world is shitty and selfish, and there's no point in trying to fix myself when the issue is with society itself.

I miss being ignorant. I envy the people around me who can't see the world for what it is.

 

[The Abyss]

Stop playing around? Who says that to someone who's suffering? That person shouldn't be allowed to advise anyone with advice like that.

The worst ppl for a role are often the ones that find themselves in the driving seat.

 

[nitroautnz]

I hate that, its sounds so evident to other people how to be happy. That whatever we go through, it's nothing we just dramatizing thing blablabla, no wonder we all on SS thinking/planning ctb...
They just make things worse, making us feel us like we broken or something is wrong with us. Why dont they thing that maybe THEY are the problem

 

[BitterlyAlive]

"Get motivated, just do it, stop playing around", wow thanks ! Guess that just cured my mental illness and my will to die. Guess that's what every suicidal and depressed person should hear, that's totally going to fix their life ! :)
Bitch, it's mean but I wish every single person who says that go through severe depression at least once. At least, it would teach them.

Nah. Severe depression is on a whole other level and it seems like therapists just don't understand. They seem to only understand mild/moderate.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

"Stop playing around" is an ignorant phrase to say to someone suffering from a mental illness. Maybe a person who says that might be genuinely trying to help, or maybe not - either way it doesn't help. It is like telling someone who has cancer: "Just stop letting the tumour eat away at your body!"

 

[BitterlyAlive]

I miss being ignorant. I envy the people around me who can't see the world for what it is.

Me too. I'm not trying to act like I'm wise or "woke" - I'm only in my early 20s after all. The idea is laughable. But the things I do know are just horrible and sometimes I wish I didn't...er, know.

 

[demuic]

I hate that, its sounds so evident to other people how to be happy. That whatever we go through, it's nothing we just dramatizing thing blablabla, no wonder we all on SS thinking/planning ctb...
They just make things worse, making us feel us like we broken or something is wrong with us. Why dont they thing that maybe THEY are the problem

Yes, basically the feeling I got from my advisor is she felt it was my fault I wasn't working hard enough. As if it's my fault to be inflicted with a mental illness and be a loser in the eyes of society.

Nah. Severe depression is on a whole other level and it seems like therapists just don't understand. They seem to only understand mild/moderate.

This is what I've noticed, from many professionals and just people in general. For someone who is only mild/moderate, or only depressed because of situational, or isn't very suicidal, perhaps they would be benefited by the "usual" methods and such phrases. But for someone with severe depression for years, which has utterly deprived you of the will to live and exist in society, interact with others, even get out of bed..... it's not taken seriously enough at all. We're laughed at and belittled.

 

[Valon]

I honestly think therapy is a scam. I've had many therapists in my time, and most seem to be completely apathetic towards my problems. All they care about is their paycheck and giving out lousy advice. Maybe I've just been unlucky, but somehow I doubt it.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

This is what I've noticed, from many professionals and just people in general. For someone who is only mild/moderate, or only depressed because of situational, or isn't very suicidal, perhaps they would be benefited by the "usual" methods and such phrases. But for someone with severe depression for years, which has utterly deprived you of the will to live and exist in society, interact with others, even get out of bed..... it's not taken serious

Even when I had moderate depression, the usual tactics didn't work. The issues are just so deeply engrained because of trauma. Anhedonia certainly doesn't help...

If I had only just fallen into depression a couple of years ago, maybe I could be helped. But now? It seems so hopeless.

And you're right. We're viewed as lazy, asocial, boring. When in reality it's the damn depression.

I honestly think therapy is a scam. I've had many therapists in my time, and most seem to be completely apathetic towards my problems. All they care about is their paycheck and giving out lousy advice. Maybe I've just been unlucky, but somehow I doubt it.

Yes, I agree. I think I've been unlucky too. I've said this before and I'll say it again: so many therapists either refuse or are incapable of meeting the client where they're at. They can't sit with the client and hold their pain. They're so heavily focused on solutions and change, when compassion and empathy are needed first.

I've only encountered one person who is actually a good therapist. But for ethical reasons, they cannot be my therapist.

 

[DFFP]

I go to my advisor and she says basically the same things I heard all my life. "try harder" "just do it" "get motivated" "you can focus" "stop playing around"

No, I fucking can't. You're not the one who's been living my life all this time. I've tried and tried and it's gotten me nowhere but to failure again and again. People think we've never heard this meaningless self help shit and that because they're the one saying it, it'll magically fix shit or something. So dumb.

They don't know how terrible it is to live with a severe mental condition, or multiple of them.

I hate being alive in this idiotic world.

I'm tired of hearing the same bullshit, from different people ... and again the same bullshit ... asking to do impossible things ... and live in their fairy tale

 

[TheBlackSwordsman]

Griiifffiiiiiiiiiiith!!!

 

[demuic]

Griiifffiiiiiiiiiiith!!!

 

[Lupgevif]

Yeah. I just received this cliche text about how we need to find the meaning all by ourselves, and that we need to connect with the universe and some bullshit like that; that this meaning comes from small things, like the sunset, or the stars, or how we wake up everyday. Here's the thing: I already love sunsets and sunrises, I love looking at the stars and at clouds, I love flowers and plants, I love the rain, I love the wind. It's the bigger things that hurt me. The jobs, the relationships and all human shenanigans. I was put into this society without consent and I am forced to fit no matter what. So what the sunset is beautiful if by the morning I'll still be poor, unemployed, and living a life considered miserable by human standards?

 

[_Minsk]

im sorry for those who actually follow that kind of advice.. its just borderline cruelty, guess what happens to those who think they need to push even harder.. i've seen a documentary about Japanese deaths caused by exhaustion, how can this even happen.. its madness..

 

[BitterlyAlive]

im sorry for those who actually follow that kind of advice.. its just borderline cruelty, guess what happens to those who think they need to push even harder.. i've seen a documentary about Japanese deaths caused by exhaustion, how can this even happen.. its madness..

Oh, karoshi? Tbh maybe that's what they want from us.