death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
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How can I love myself and be confident when I'm a 1.62 meters (5'3) subhuman? Almost impossible!

This guy just tell truth
 
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shadowchaser

shadowchaser

Aug 1, 2019
282
I'm sorry you can't see your good qualities right now, friend. I don't know you but I love you all the same. I hope you find it easier to feel that yourself soon :)
Sending you hugs ❤️
 
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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
I'm sorry you can't see your good qualities right now, friend. I don't know you but I love you all the same. I hope you find it easier to feel that yourself soon :)
Sending you hugs ❤️
I know I've some good qualities but they mean nothing irl when you a short and ugly man. But thank you for your message.
 
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Captive of Mind

Captive of Mind

Memento mori
Aug 11, 2020
409
What he says is heartbreaking but also realistic at the same time. I'm sorry that this is how it is in your life, it's exactly how I've felt for a long time.

I tried extremely hard to build myself up to be someone that I could love and respect. That was always my goal, but I failed miserably with whatever I did. Even my successes would turn out to have some sort of down side. Other people could never understand the thousands of intricacies that have affected my daily life over the years and want to act as though they know how I should feel, like they know what my experience is like. I have way more reasons to hate myself than anything else and I'm done suppressing it. I am a shit person and I will put an end to it soon.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
20,706
I don't know if this helps but I'm a 6 foot tall man and still don't love myself either. I'm sure for you there have to be more reasons than height alone but sometimes what helps me feel confident is actually knowing there are bigger losers out there...
 
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Pookie

Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
1,051
I'm pretty sure you're not subhuman. The depression is telling you lies.
 
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AprilsBlessings

AprilsBlessings

Our tainted history is playing on repeat
Jul 26, 2020
172
That's why i hate the society, they're putting standards for everyone and no matter how they many times they say " Everyone is perfect the way they are " you know deep down that they have standards and always will.

I'm so sorry you feel that way about yourself <3
 
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adam&eve

adam&eve

Student
Dec 16, 2020
191
Whatever you say to this young man he won't believe it unfortunately... I have seen him and he is handsome and normal, maybe short but there are millions of short men in the world and that is not ABNORMAL. I am so sorry I cannot convince you dear friend. You are a healthy individual and please search for theraphy!
 
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UterEntonaur

UterEntonaur

Specialist
Aug 17, 2020
340
How can I love myself and be confident when I'm a 1.62 meters (5'3) subhuman? Almost impossible!
If a fish judges itself by how well a cat can climb a tree, the fish will always think the cat is better, and never realise that the cat can't swim/breathe underwater
 
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death137

death137

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Jun 25, 2020
1,166
I'm pretty sure you're not subhuman. The depression is telling you lies.
I wish it was just my depression but I try to be rational when observing things. Maybe I was hard on myself when I said "subhuman" but I'm a below average person.
If a fish judges itself by how well a cat can climb a tree, the fish will always think the cat is better, and never realise that the cat can't swim/breathe underwater
Most ppl are superficial. They don't care about your personally until you have passed their looks criteria. I don't blame them but I don't want to live on a veteran mode every single day.
 
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WornOutLife

マット
Mar 22, 2020
7,164
Well, I do love you. You look like a genuine and nice person.

As for the height, I know very short and tall people who are happy.

As for the subnormal part, well, I think I am too. I mean, bipolar, suicidal, kinda alcoholic, lazy, haha I suck.

Anyway, hope you feel better soon.

Hugs and love
 
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Good4Nothing

Good4Nothing

Unlovable
May 8, 2020
1,865
I wish I knew what to tell you, friend, but I hate myself, too.
I like you, I think you're a good person, I can tell you that.
 
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Neowise

Neowise

We fly and fly but never reach our destination.
Oct 7, 2020
455
How can I love myself and be confident when I'm a 1.62 meters
Not sure what your height has to do with it. It is totally fine for a man to not be 1.90 meters tall. Everyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. Look at this guy from Game of Thrones, he is tiny but one of the most famous acturs currently :wink:

I know I've some good qualities but they mean nothing irl when you a short and ugly man.
Is it about women? Man, don't value yourself based on how women might perceive you. Many women don't care about the looks of a man if his character is positive and pure, trust me. If you find someone who only likes you because of your looks this isn't a good base for a relationship anyways. Even though social media tell us otherwise the key for a happy relationship are compatible characters. You are sad but you seem like an intelligent and gentle guy, I have hope for you :)
 
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fedupsoul

fedupsoul

Confused
Jan 19, 2021
57
I guess one of the ways to deal with this is by looking at the things which you have which others don't. I mean like if you put yourself on a scale at the center where to the right there are "better off" people and to the left there are "worse off" people you can sort of feel some gratitude about how much worse off one could be and that's how I usually deal with it till I get the courage to ctb heading to the unknown. Best is to avoid the right side of the scale... I'm sorry but this is all I got
 
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Nymph

Nymph

he/him
Jul 15, 2020
2,565
Sorry you feel this way, I can relate. I'm ugly and my personality is also ugly:/ I'm just not worthy of love or ever having a partner. I don't even want a partner because I know I'm not a good person.

btw, I know you won't believe me but I think your height is the last thing you should worry about. You don't have to be tall, being smol is cute. I like small dudes/gals/in between pals.
 
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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
Not sure what your height has to do with it. It is totally fine for a man to not be 1.90 meters tall. Everyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. Look at this guy from Game of Thrones, he is tiny but one of the most famous acturs currently :wink:


Is it about women? Man, don't value yourself based on how women might perceive you. Many women don't care about the looks of a man if his character is positive and pure, trust me. If you find someone who only likes you because of your looks this isn't a good base for a relationship anyways. Even though social media tell us otherwise the key for a happy relationship are compatible characters. You are sad but you seem like an intelligent and gentle guy, I have hope for you :)
Yeah he is famous but I think I read he used to mentally suffer for a long time because of his height.

It has some to do with women but largely about ppl in general. Most ppl I know are taller than me and I feel less of a man when I'm around them. Being ugly also doesn't help. About women, most of them do greatly care about looks and height. I will probably not find a woman who love me but I'm peace with it because I don't intend to stay long.
I guess one of the ways to deal with this is by looking at the things which you have which others don't. I mean like if you put yourself on a scale at the center where to the right there are "better off" people and to the left there are "worse off" people you can sort of feel some gratitude about how much worse off one could be and that's how I usually deal with it till I get the courage to ctb heading to the unknown. Best is to avoid the right side of the scale... I'm sorry but this is all I got
I like your advice. I sometimes try to tell myself that but when you suffer greatly to the point of being suicidal its hard to convince your mind to see things like that. But I hope this thinking will ease your pain until you get the courage to ctb.
 
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Makko

Makko

Iä!
Jan 17, 2021
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I look around myself and think that probably, being subhuman is the normal thing to be. People in general are so full of flaws that it's a comedy.
 
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Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

Wizard
Jan 14, 2020
654
If you think being tall would give you confidence you are wrong. If that was the case, every single tall guy would be confident without fail. Your height isn't why you aren't confident. It may be a factor, but it's not solely pinned on this.

You need to find other aspects of yourself to develop and focus on growing on a deeper level. To have a richness of self is more attractive that height (height isn't an attractive trait, it's just a trait.) Incels' need to understand this. If a woman doesn't want to date you based on your height that speaks volumes about her character. The issue is you all want to date bimbo airheads who are programmed to have this sort of surface personality.

To try and whittle all your life's problems down to being shorter than average is lazy. Look at why else you are lacking confidence and work of things you can change.
Look at this guy from Game of Thrones, he is tiny but one of the most famous acturs currently :wink:
^^ This is true. I would date this actor and find him attractive. Even if I saw him in a bar. His height wouldn't be an issue for me. I'm 162cm.
 
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Makko

Makko

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Jan 17, 2021
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I looked at more of this guy's "life of hell inc" videos and I enjoy his bluntly defeatist attitude. Very refreshing.
 
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NothingElseMatters

NothingElseMatters

Warlock
Mar 30, 2020
745
If makes you feel better, life ain't easy when you're a tall fellow. I'm 190cm and here I am.
 
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*Hope*

*Hope*

Student
Jan 18, 2021
112
Man, this is also my biggest reason for suicide...
Just knowing no matter what we do, we will always be seen as a joke. People constantly lie to us saying it's because we lack "confidence" and we need to "get hobbies", but make fun of us the next minute. Worst part is, if we call them out on it, they will say "take a joke" or "napoleon complex".. There's no winning for short men.
If you think being tall would give you confidence you are wrong. If that was the case, every single tall guy would be confident without fail. Your height isn't why you aren't confident. It may be a factor, but it's not solely pinned on this.

You need to find other aspects of yourself to develop and focus on growing on a deeper level. To have a richness of self is more attractive that height (height isn't an attractive trait, it's just a trait.) Incels' need to understand this. If a woman doesn't want to date you based on your height that speaks volumes about her character. The issue is you all want to date bimbo airheads who are programmed to have this sort of surface personality.

To try and whittle all your life's problems down to being shorter than average is lazy. Look at why else you are lacking confidence and work of things you can change.

^^ This is true. I would date this actor and find him attractive. Even if I saw him in a bar. His height wouldn't be an issue for me. I'm 162cm.
This is a very ignorant reply, but its not your fault. Until someone goes through the pain of another person, they are incapable of understanding them.

Had many problems that almost made me cbt,but I was able to change them for the better. Height is something you can't change. Being a short man is probably the worst thing in society. People look down on you (mentally and physically) and make you know that youre inferior to them. No one ever takes you seriously.

Most men who are suicidal are short. With 2 inch decrease in height , theres is +9% depression.
Sadly heightism isn't taken seriously, and your reply is the proof of it.
(Not meant in a disrespectful way)
 
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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
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If you think being tall would give you confidence you are wrong. If that was the case, every single tall guy would be confident without fail. Your height isn't why you aren't confident. It may be a factor, but it's not solely pinned on this.

You need to find other aspects of yourself to develop and focus on growing on a deeper level. To have a richness of self is more attractive that height (height isn't an attractive trait, it's just a trait.) Incels' need to understand this. If a woman doesn't want to date you based on your height that speaks volumes about her character. The issue is you all want to date bimbo airheads who are programmed to have this sort of surface personality.

To try and whittle all your life's problems down to being shorter than average is lazy. Look at why else you are lacking confidence and work of things you can change.

^^ This is true. I would date this actor and find him attractive. Even if I saw him in a bar. His height wouldn't be an issue for me. I'm 162cm.
If I become average or tall height I'm sure my confidence will greatly increase. If my looks improve then it will increase even more. Most of my mental pain, embarrassments and being actively suicidal during the past 5 years was because of my appearance. If those problems are solved I probably wouldn't want to ctb.

People fall in love in most cases based on physical appearance. Let's not lie ourselves by telling "personally matters more than looks" crap. False hope brings more pain in the long run than peace.
I looked at more of this guy's "life of hell inc" videos and I enjoy his bluntly defeatist attitude. Very refreshing.
You should also see his other videos besides the "life of hell inc" category. He tells straight truth and its better to accept the truth than be delusional even if the truth doesn't look good.
If makes you feel better, life ain't easy when you're a tall fellow. I'm 190cm and here I am.
Life is hell no matter what but ppl have different main problem/s. Some ppl main problem might be money or relationship or job or other things. For me my main problem just happen to be height and looks. People quality of life is affected by lots of things but I truly believe the biggest factor is your appearance.
 
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Emily_Numb

Emily_Numb

Wizard
Jan 14, 2020
654
If I become average or tall height I'm sure my confidence will greatly increase. If my looks improve then it will increase even more. Most of my mental pain, embarrassments and being actively suicidal during the past 5 years was because of my appearance. If those problems are solved I probably wouldn't want to ctb.

People fall in love in most cases based on physical appearance. Let's not lie ourselves by telling "personally matters more than looks" crap. False hope brings more pain in the long run than peace.

Well as a woman who has dated over 30 people and has been married for 15 years I can assure you that the 'personality over looks' thing, isn't a lie. I find that incels always bitch about this claiming that if they had a better face they would not want to CTB when in fact they don't get the girl because of their bitter personalities.

You're not single because of your face, it's because of your attitude.
 
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death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
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Well as a woman who has dated over 30 people and has been married for 15 years I can assure you that the 'personality over looks' thing, isn't a lie. I find that incels always bitch about this claiming that if they had a better face they would not want to CTB when in fact they don't get the girl because of their bitter personalities.

You're not single because of your face, it's because of your attitude.
Maybe you are different but for most women looks matter way more than personality. There are different studies for this.

I would really love to have a partner but my main concern about being short and ugly is just being trapped in a body I don't want to. It caused me to have a bad social anxiety and depression, and as a result forced me to quit university and distance myself from friends and society in general. I want to visit many interesting places but I feel demotivated. I've defeatist attitude but its based on reason.

You are probably not unattractive so its difficult for you to understand ppl like me. But life is hell for me.
 
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