Nitrogen - Why so difficult? UK

[iwantpeacenopain]

I do wonder why is it so difficult to source nitrogen, regulator and flow meter in the UK? Has there been a clampdown on this? It's almost impossible to find available products. It seems that if you want to exit in the UK you've got to consider very violent ways like train, building etc. It's really evil to do that as people should have the right to end their life should they wish to. Coercing people so suffer in distress, day after day, is evil in the purest form.

 

[RN13]

Argon instead of Nitrogen. Easier to buy. Same working mechanism. Inert gas

Regulator free to buy for everyone too everywhere on the planet

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

I do wonder why is it so difficult to source nitrogen, regulator and flow meter in the UK? Has there been a clampdown on this? It's almost impossible to find available products. It seems that if you want to exit in the UK you've got to consider very violent ways like train, building etc. It's really evil to do that as people should have the right to end their life should they wish to. Coercing people so suffer in distress, day after day, is evil in the purest form.

Where have you been looking? As far as I'm aware there aren't any restrictions on N2 in the UK, it's just more of an industrial product so it's sold at supply houses that don't market directly to the general public.

You can generally find nitrogen at gas suppliers and welding supply shops. The gas suppliers often cater to higher volume businesses and might not sell directly to consumers, although many do. The easier approach might be to look at welding supply shops, because nitrogen is a standard welding gas and it will be sold in reasonable sized cylinders because welders generally like to have a portable setup.

I did a Google search for "welding supply nitrogen" in the UK and found numerous online shops, some of which even have nitrogen cylinders in stock ready to add to the cart and purchase. You also might find it locally or nearby, since any decent sized city is likely to have a welding supply shop. Even if they only stock welding equipment and not gas, they still should know where to find welding gases locally.

The only concern a welding shop is likely to have about selling nitrogen to a consumer is that you're prepared to transport it safely. The cylinder is under very high pressure and it will turn into a rocket if the valve were to break off.

Finding the regulator should be as simple as going to Amazon or other big online retailer. You can also get regulators at a welding supply shop, but it will be more expensive. Those places make their biggest profits on accessories like that, and they also usually sell higher quality gear intended for professional use.

Nitrogen flow regulators aren't common, so it's easier to find an argon flow regulator with built-in pressure regulator at an online retailer. You can convert from argon to nitrogen flow rates using a conversion table which I posted in this thread:

Just finished putting together a nitrogen exit bag setup

I just thought I'd share a description of the gear I put together for inert gas asphyxiation with nitrogen and an exit bag. It's pretty basic since I felt it would be better to start with something simple and functional, then upgrade to SCBA/SCUBA or something else in the future if I have time...

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[iwantpeacenopain]

Where have you been looking? As far as I'm aware there aren't any restrictions on N2 in the UK, it's just more of an industrial product so it's sold at supply houses that don't market directly to the general public.

You can generally find nitrogen at gas suppliers and welding supply shops. The gas suppliers often cater to higher volume businesses and might not sell directly to consumers, although many do. The easier approach might be to look at welding supply shops, because nitrogen is a standard welding gas and it will be sold in reasonable sized cylinders because welders generally like to have a portable setup.

I did a Google search for "welding supply nitrogen" in the UK and found numerous online shops, some of which even have nitrogen cylinders in stock ready to add to the cart and purchase. You also might find it locally or nearby, since any decent sized city is likely to have a welding supply shop. Even if they only stock welding equipment and not gas, they still should know where to find welding gases locally.

The only concern a welding shop is likely to have about selling nitrogen to a consumer is that you're prepared to transport it safely. The cylinder is under very high pressure and it will turn into a rocket if the valve were to break off.

Finding the regulator should be as simple as going to Amazon or other big online retailer. You can also get regulators at a welding supply shop, but it will be more expensive. Those places make their biggest profits on accessories like that, and they also usually sell higher quality gear intended for professional use.

Nitrogen flow regulators aren't common, so it's easier to find an argon flow regulator with built-in pressure regulator at an online retailer. You can convert from argon to nitrogen flow rates using a conversion table which I posted in this thread:

Just finished putting together a nitrogen exit bag setup

I just thought I'd share a description of the gear I put together for inert gas asphyxiation with nitrogen and an exit bag. It's pretty basic since I felt it would be better to start with something simple and functional, then upgrade to SCBA/SCUBA or something else in the future if I have time...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Gosh, that's so useful. Thank you for your comprehensive response! I found the following cylinder and regulator/flow. I'm not sure about the compatibility. How would I know?

Cylinder: https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/product/...refill-only-for-wine-preservation-dispensing/

Regulator & Flow: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nitrogen-H...38447258&sprefix=nitrogen+flow,aps,106&sr=8-6

With regards to an argon regulator; how would I test the flow to confirm it's 15L/min?

Thank you so much

 

[tiredtired]

Gosh, that's so useful. Thank you for your comprehensive response! I found the following cylinder and regulator/flow. I'm not sure about the compatibility. How would I know?

Cylinder: https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/product/...refill-only-for-wine-preservation-dispensing/

Regulator & Flow: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Regulator-Single-0-25Mpa-Welding-Regulators/dp/B08K3L438F?pd_rd_w=3eSKM&content-id=amzn1.sym.d63274d0-bf52-45e7-ae69-2bcf85c5865c:amzn1.symc.ca948091-a64d-450e-86d7-c161ca33337b&pf_rd_p=d63274d0-bf52-45e7-ae69-2bcf85c5865c&pf_rd_r=6KD0HDK7FJ431G2XJ023&pd_rd_wg=9asi6&pd_rd_r=337f4fab-2e30-4dc5-8307-eab23203bc8e&pd_rd_i=B08K3L438F

With regards to an argon regulator; how would I test the flow to confirm it's 15L/min?

Thank you so much

>can only be supplied to trade users and delivered to trade addresses only.

 

[iwantpeacenopain]

>can only be supplied to trade users and delivered to trade addresses only.

Oh no, it that just a UK issue? Is there a way round this? They say the UK is a "free" country to live in (lol).

 

[tiredtired]

Oh no, it that just a UK issue? Is there a way round this? They say the UK is a "free" country to live in (lol).

I think it's the case for most industry suppliers of inert gases. They're also likely to question you on why you're buying it due to people using it to ctb

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

>can only be supplied to trade users and delivered to trade addresses only.

This place appears to sell to consumers: "pleased to offer competitively priced nitrogen cylinders for domestic and commercial use"

Nitrogen Cylinders | Nitrogen Gas Cylinders, Bottles & Canisters

At Bottle Gases, we stock nitrogen cylinders & canisters that are available to order online. We aim to deliver all nitrogen bottles within 2 working days.

www.bottlegases.co.uk

They're also likely to question you on why you're buying it due to people using it to ctb

There are a few legitimate applications you could use as a cover story:

• home brewing nitro beer (this is what I said and it worked perfectly)
• wine preservation
• welding
• filling car or bicycle tires

It helps to spend some time researching the internet to familiarize yourself with your cover story in case they ask questions. You don't have to be an expert since you can tell them you're just getting started, that's why you're buying the cylinder. The beer or wine applications work well because almost everybody likes booze and they'll be happy to make some small talk about it and send you on your way.

Gosh, that's so useful. Thank you for your comprehensive response! I found the following cylinder and regulator/flow. I'm not sure about the compatibility. How would I know?

I'm not sure what kind of connectors are used for inert gas in the UK, so I don't know. You might want to obtain the gas cylinder first, then find a regulator that's compatible. I'm pretty sure there's info on this if you search older messages on the forums.

Cylinder: https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/product/...refill-only-for-wine-preservation-dispensing/

That's a good cylinder but it's much larger then needed. The smallest you could use is 4 L, but the bigger the better for safety and peace of mind.

Regulator & Flow: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nitrogen-Hardness-Chrome-Durable-Laboratory/dp/B0CBKPST2V?

That's actually a nice fow meter, but it has an unusual input connection that might not be compatible.

With regards to an argon regulator; how would I test the flow to confirm it's 15L/min?

The flow meter has a knob to adjust the flow rate, people usually trust that the flow meter is accurate. If you want to verify the accuracy yourself, you could do something like release the gas into a container full of water held upside down in a large sink or bathtub. You would use a timer to release the gas for a known period of time, then mark the container where the gas ended up filling it. It's just like using a measuring cup upside down.

 

[iwantpeacenopain]

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This place appears to sell to consumers: "pleased to offer competitively priced nitrogen cylinders for domestic and commercial use"

Nitrogen Cylinders | Nitrogen Gas Cylinders, Bottles & Canisters

At Bottle Gases, we stock nitrogen cylinders & canisters that are available to order online. We aim to deliver all nitrogen bottles within 2 working days.

www.bottlegases.co.uk

There are a few legitimate applications you could use as a cover story:

• home brewing nitro beer (this is what I said and it worked perfectly)
• wine preservation
• welding
• filling car or bicycle tires

It helps to spend some time researching the internet to familiarize yourself with your cover story in case they ask questions. You don't have to be an expert since you can tell them you're just getting started, that's why you're buying the cylinder. The beer or wine applications work well because almost everybody likes booze and they'll be happy to make some small talk about it and send you on your way.


I'm not sure what kind of connectors are used for inert gas in the UK, so I don't know. You might want to obtain the gas cylinder first, then find a regulator that's compatible. I'm pretty sure there's info on this if you search older messages on the forums.


That's a good cylinder but it's much larger then needed. The smallest you could use is 4 L, but the bigger the better for safety and peace of mind.


That's actually a nice fow meter, but it has an unusual input connection that might not be compatible.


The flow meter has a knob to adjust the flow rate, people usually trust that the flow meter is accurate. If you want to verify the accuracy yourself, you could do something like release the gas into a container full of water held upside down in a large sink or bathtub. You would use a timer to release the gas for a known period of time, then mark the container where the gas ended up filling it. It's just like using a measuring cup upside down.

The verification method is really smart, thx!!!!

 

[iwantpeacenopain]

>can only be supplied to trade users and delivered to trade addresses only.

Can one not set-up a business account at companies hse - it's only £50?

 

[iwantpeacenopain]

>can only be supplied to trade users and delivered to trade addresses only.

Have you attempted to purchase from Adam's Gas and they told you that? I heard they deliver to home addresses as well as business addresses.

 

[tiredtired]

Have you attempted to purchase from Adam's Gas and they told you that? I heard they deliver to home addresses as well as business addresses.

Nope.

 

[Lee deadmanwalking]

I do wonder why is it so difficult to source nitrogen, regulator and flow meter in the UK? Has there been a clampdown on this? It's almost impossible to find available products. It seems that if you want to exit in the UK you've got to consider very violent ways like train, building etc. It's really evil to do that as people should have the right to end their life should they wish to. Coercing people so suffer in distress, day after day, is evil in the purest form.

UK man here....man is it difficult to get SN too. I've messaged so many people but no luck yet. I'm thinking huge overdose and carbon monoxide. I'm looking to meet up with anyone if anyone wants to tag along