NHS crisis team are useless...

[LittleBlackCat]

Hi. Anyone from the UK? I finally got to speak to the crisis team today. My dr called me about a medication review and I told her I wanted to jump or overdose on propranolol and I couldn't stop thinking about it.
Crisis called me back and told me to try mindfulness videos on YouTube.
Feel worse than before they called. What are they actually there for?

I don't want to die right at this moment. But the pain is too much to handle anymore

 

[Deleted member 19654]

I'm also from the UK, never had to deal with the mental health crisis team personally, but I never hear good things about them. I'm sorry that they weren't able to help you. I imagine they want to try and take your mind off the idea of suicide but I don't see how helpful it is to just recommend you to watch some YouTube videos. You're welcome to chat to us here if that helps? Or feel free to pm me

 

[Martyn]

They are a waste of bloody time useless

 

[Noodlebug]

Mental Health Crisis Team are bloody useless.
Never turn up when they say they will, blah blah blah...
And suggest going for a walk to help! Really>?!>!?!?!?!

 

[DyingAlf]

I'm sorry you had that experience.
I have never had a good experience with the crisis team.
Some of my bad experiences include...
Being told to, go home, take one of my sleeping tablets & get a good nights sleep so I can feel better the next day (after I had started drinking & taking the tablets to overdose).
Being told that I should've gone to church that morning (it was a Sunday but I'm an atheist). He carried on saying more churchy stuff.
When one of their team gave me the creeps & I requested that they didn't visit me they said that they'll make a note of that but couldn't guarantee it.
They're often late or never show up at all.
& so many more!

 

[Passerby]

Oh NHS....

 

[Racon]

In defense of the crises teams... I am not sure what you guys expect them to do in such situations?

 

[inflammed123]

They are a waste of bloody time useless

100%

 

[Life_and_Death]

Lol there was a story in the paper today about how the number of SOS calls dropped. I highly doubt they looked into why they dropped and I highly doubt less people need help.

In defense of the crises teams... I am not sure what you guys expect them to do in such situations?

From what I've heard..... A lot of the people on the other end are basically heartless or at the very least completely uneducated on the subject and therefore lack the knowledge to respond appropriately. This is a life or death matter, they shouldn't be sending these type of people in to "handle us". You can find more help by making a post here and waiting for a response.

 

[BipolarGuy]

In defense of the crises teams... I am not sure what you guys expect them to do in such situations?

I can answer this quite easily.

OP said they wanted a medication review.
So review the type of medication they are taking as well as the dosage.
Are other medications appropriate other than antidepressants, for instance mood stabilisers, sleep meds, anti-anxiety meds. This should be considered.

Next, look at what long term psychology support is in place.
If none, refer for therapy.

Are there issues in the OPs life that are contributing to how they feel? E.g. financial issues or domestic abuse?
Refer to other social services for help with these.

The problem isn't that they can't do anything, the problem is that it's always "someone else's responsibility".

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I can answer this quite easily.

OP said they wanted a medication review.
So review the type of medication they are taking as well as the dosage.
Are other medications appropriate other than antidepressants, for instance mood stabilisers, sleep meds, anti-anxiety meds. This should be considered.

Next, look at what long term psychology support is in place.
If none, refer for therapy.

Are there issues in the OPs life that are contributing to how they feel? E.g. financial issues or domestic abuse?
Refer to other social services for help with these.

The problem isn't that they can't do anything, the problem is that it's always "someone else's responsibility".

There you go @Racon. A sensible answer.

 

[Racon]

I can answer this quite easily.

OP said they wanted a medication review.
So review the type of medication they are taking as well as the dosage.
Are other medications appropriate other than antidepressants, for instance mood stabilisers, sleep meds, anti-anxiety meds. This should be considered.

Next, look at what long term psychology support is in place.
If none, refer for therapy.

Are there issues in the OPs life that are contributing to how they feel? E.g. financial issues or domestic abuse?
Refer to other social services for help with these.

The problem isn't that they can't do anything, the problem is that it's always "someone else's responsibility".

A crisis nurse is not able to review your medication. I assume the OP is scheduled to meet an actual doctor in order to review their medication and determine a therapy plan. A crisis team nurse doesn't function much differently than a suicide hotline. They will keep in contact with you, try to calm you down, and give you suggestions for other resources you can look at. They are there to give you some degree of support until your appointments with a doctor.

 

[Sinkinshyp]

I can answer this quite easily.

OP said they wanted a medication review.
So review the type of medication they are taking as well as the dosage.
Are other medications appropriate other than antidepressants, for instance mood stabilisers, sleep meds, anti-anxiety meds. This should be considered.

Next, look at what long term psychology support is in place.
If none, refer for therapy.

Are there issues in the OPs life that are contributing to how they feel? E.g. financial issues or domestic abuse?
Refer to other social services for help with these.

The problem isn't that they can't do anything, the problem is that it's always "someone else's responsibility".

and in this case they put the responsibility on youtube...

OP I'm so sorry you've had to deal with this. I think folks who are part of the NHS and have sought help here should gather forces and make it known what a lack of empathy they truly have. You all might be able to change things for the better for others in the future. I wish I could call crisis here tell them I've thought about taking all my xanax and ocy to get out of here and all they do is tell me watch youtube. Cops would be here to try to lock me up before the phone call ended

 

[UberYeets]

Bastards at the asd clinic rejected my gp's referral on grounds of 'lack of funding' and the GP sent the letter to me for the sake of mocking me or some ignorant shit.

 

[checkouttime]

"someone else's responsibility".

not surprised they like to 'pass the book' whatsoever!

 

[ghostspace]

Hi. Anyone from the UK? I finally got to speak to the crisis team today. My dr called me about a medication review and I told her I wanted to jump or overdose on propranolol and I couldn't stop thinking about it.
Crisis called me back and told me to try mindfulness videos on YouTube.
Feel worse than before they called. What are they actually there for?

I don't want to die right at this moment. But the pain is too much to handle anymore

a mindfulness video on youtube?? wow, that's like calling a pizza delivery place and having them tell you to go read a book at the library to stave off your hunger.

sorry they were so invalidating of your crisis, you deserve to be treated seriously and with respect.

 

[Acopia]

If you can even get in front of the crisis team to begin with.

A couple of months ago I begged my GP to refer me to the crisis team, their respose: "Go to A&E if you want to see someone."
Like; I want to see an actual mental health professional, not an emergency doctor who will literally not be able to do anything for me - other than apologise and refer me to crisis themselves.

Historically the crisis team have been really good at jigging my meds to make them a bit more effective; something which every other team have failed (or refused) to do. Or put me on a PRN that's helped me to ride out my state of mind for a short while until I feel a bit safer.

I think my GP mistakes my survival instinct and willingness to ask for help as proof that I won't go and ctb.

Guess I'll see them all in coroner's court.. or not..

You are not alone guys, I share in your pain.

-Acopia

A crisis nurse is not able to review your medication. I assume the OP is scheduled to meet an actual doctor in order to review their medication and determine a therapy plan. A crisis team nurse doesn't function much differently than a suicide hotline. They will keep in contact with you, try to calm you down, and give you suggestions for other resources you can look at. They are there to give you some degree of support until your appointments with a doctor.

I'm not disagreeing with you per se, but for me the only people to ever properly review my meds have been the crisis team.
I imagine that the team where I am consist of different professionals than the team where you are - which is interesting and something I hadn't particularly considered before.

- A.

 

[checkouttime]

If you can even get in front of the crisis team to begin with.

A couple of months ago I begged my GP to refer me to the crisis team, their respose: "Go to A&E if you want to see someone."
Like; I want to see an actual mental health professional, not an emergency doctor who will literally not be able to do anything for me - other than apologise and refer me to crisis themselves.

Historically the crisis team have been really good at jigging my meds to make them a bit more effective; something which every other team have failed (or refused) to do. Or put me on a PRN that's helped me to ride out my state of mind for a short while until I feel a bit safer.

I think my GP mistakes my survival instinct and willingness to ask for help as proof that I won't go and ctb.

Guess I'll see them all in coroner's court.. or not..

You are not alone guys, I share in your pain.

-Acopia

then when you turn at the hospital, they would of asked why you had gone there!!!

 

[Acopia]

then when you turn at the hospital, they would of asked why you had gone there!!!

Which is exactly why I didn't go
And my GP construes that as proof that I'm not really that unwell.
You just can't win.

 

[checkouttime]

I had this once. I had an absess on my mouth, was told by a dentist if the swelling got worse to go straight to A and E. as it could start effecting my breathing. it started doing exactly that! went A & E, the triage said to me why have you come here!! I walked out before i did some damage!!

 

[Ghost2211]

It's just as bad here. I'm sorry they're not providing you better support.

 

[DyingAlf]

And my GP construes that as proof that I'm not really that unwell.

You need a new GP.
My GP has done everything in their power to try to help me, nothing has helped but at least I know that they cared enough to try (& try & try some more).

 

[BitterlyAlive]

a mindfulness video on youtube?? wow, that's like calling a pizza delivery place and having them tell you to go read a book at the library to stave off your hunger.

sorry they were so invalidating of your crisis, you deserve to be treated seriously and with respect.

Very good comparison!

 

[Acopia]

You need a new GP.
My GP has done everything in their power to try to help me, nothing has helped but at least I know that they cared enough to try (& try & try some more).

Not guna lie.. I'm not even convinced mine are real doctors.

I could go in with an infection, and there's this one 'doctor' (whom I refuse to see anymore, but with covid that seems to have gone out the window) who'll put on her best therapeutic voice and say: "and what would you like me to do about it?"
I'ma like: "Well.. antibiotics please!"

I was in the waiting room once and another patient came barging out of her room shouting that she wanted to speak with the manager about "that incompetent doctor I've just seen."
Oh, I was laughing hysterically. At least it's not just me.

-A.Xx

 

[Mm80]

I can answer this quite easily.

OP said they wanted a medication review.
So review the type of medication they are taking as well as the dosage.
Are other medications appropriate other than antidepressants, for instance mood stabilisers, sleep meds, anti-anxiety meds. This should be considered.

Next, look at what long term psychology support is in place.
If none, refer for therapy.

Are there issues in the OPs life that are contributing to how they feel? E.g. financial issues or domestic abuse?
Refer to other social services for help with these.

The problem isn't that they can't do anything, the problem is that it's always "someone else's responsibility".

Spot on as usual bpg.
If you believe some of the stuff today on here,.. ironically, the reason the crisis team are that rubbish is because they have deployed most of their staff to sit on SS all day in case a goodbye thread pops up.

 

[checkouttime]

Spot on as usual bpg.
If you believe some of the stuff today on here,.. ironically, the reason the crisis team are that rubbish is because they have deployed most of their staff to sit on SS all day in case a goodbye thread pops up.

 

[Mm80]

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Exactly. Im not gonna argue it out in future theres no point.

 

[checkouttime]

Exactly. Im not gonna argue it out in future theres no point.

seems to be bullshit post after bullshit post from fake members or people trying to stir shit, get a reaction! i said it now...i feel better... its what i believe!.my problem is, i like to react lmao

 

[Misfit72]

I'll second that - one nurse burst out laughing during her visit with a trainee nurse made to look at me like an exhibit in a freak show. Mindfulness videos? 28 years ago they had me lying on the floor listening to Enya.

 

[lotus11]

the NHS are unlikely to help, I am dying, either from my eating disorder or from suicide because I can't live with it and they have refused to give me the help I need and said I can only get it if I pay for it and it costs literally about a thousand pounds a day. I probably realistically need to be in hospital for a MINIMUM of 6 months to recover as I've been ill for 10 years now and it just seems impossible to get help...