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hatewhativebecome

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Sep 30, 2022
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Thank you for letting me join. This will probably be a pretty long post as I'm just letting it all out...

Let me start by saying I believe I am a terrible person that cares only about himself.

I am 30 years old and have been with my wife since I was 18. We got married at 21. I don't even recognize who I am anymore I have changed so much in the last 12 years. I used to be social and funny. I always struggled with relationships though. Shortly after I started dating my wife I isolated both of us from our friendship circles. I've done it with high school girlfriends as well. I think I was insecure and had trust issues. Over the course of time I have improved on that. My wife has friends that she goes out with. I still don't.

I'm not a good husband. Maybe I was at one point. We fight all the time and I'm never there for her when she needs me because I'm so caught up in my own depression. We don't do anything together anymore. I love her but deep down I hate being around her. She is pleasant and still desires me. I have felt this way for a long time and I don't know why. I never want to have sex, touch or flirt. I will masturbate pretty frequently and she knows that and is extremely hurt by it because she knows that I know if I made a move on her she will almost always be down for a good time. I'm not asexual or anything. I still find other women attractive. Just not the one I owe my life to...

EDITING still. Dog nudged my phone and submitted

I can barely hold a conversation with anyone anymore. I just don't know what to say most of the time. This leads to more marriage problems as well as my social skills with others. I don't find anything interesting anymore and never have an opinion to share on a subject.

So moving onto more reasons I'm a terrible person ...

For about 2 years I worked for my father in law at his manufacturing business. He is a difficult and nasty person but it doesn't excuse my behavior. For about 18 of those months I was stealing from the company. I did the payroll and would add 5 hours of overtime to my check every week. Eventually he figured it out and we had a falling out. He threatened to have me arrested. There's more to the story but that's the gist of it. My wife chose me over her family. We haven't spoken to her family in over 5 years now.

About 2 years ago I had a Discord group I would play games with on the weekends. Nobody I knew IRL but we all became friends. There was one girl in the group and I flirted and harassed her for nudes for quite a while. She seemed to like the attention but never followed through with my requests. My wife just found out about this maybe 6 months ago on her own. She was so hurt.

More recently about a year ago our marriage was really bad. I was working a different job and made friends with an older, divorced (from a woman) gay man there. One night we got together and I laid it all out on the table how bad my marriage was going. At some point I made a sarcastic remark "guess I'm gonna go home and jerk it again" as he was aware that I wasn't having sex with my wife. He took a different meaning to my remark. He had driven, so when he brought me back to his house where my car was, he parked in a secluded area and asked me what kind of porn I like to watch...a little weirded out I answered. He puts his phone in between us with porn playing. Several minutes go by, he tells me I can get comfortable blah blah. I'm sitting there frozen. Few minutes later he says "now you've got me curious" and reaches for my dick. He tells me to tell him if I am uncomfortable. Me being the awkward person I am goes along with it because I didn't want to confront. We end up going into his house and I pounded a drink or two down...I ended up sleeping with this man. I don't consider myself bi or gay (though he was trying to convince me I am gay and we share the same experiences). I won't lie I was curious what it would be like, but deep down this isn't what I wanted or planned to happen.

Shortly after this happens my wife and I start marriage counseling and I admit to her what happened. She knew something was wrong for a while. She tells me I was raped. I told her I think that is too strong of a word to describe what happened. Many months later I worked with a psychologist who worded it perfectly. I was "coaxed into a sexual relationship" with this man. When my wife found out of course she was so so hurt. But she stuck with me. She actually went and got her own bits of vengeance. She found out where she lived and did some vandalism to his stuff. Slashed tires, keyed car etc.

Life is so fucked up. I am the creator of all of my misery. I've been unfaithful no matter what way you look at it. I sexually harassed a girl on the internet. I fucked a man in his 50s whether it was completely consensual or not. And I STILL haven't lost my wife. How the fuck can someone love me as much as she does? I don't deserve it.

I say nasty things to her, I'm extremely negative, I'm lazy, not supportive and probably a hundred other things.

We have discussed divorce but we are both very codependent. It's not healthy. We have a house and pets. If she leaves I can't afford the house and vice versa. She wants to keep the pets if we split which I understand. But she can't afford a place to rent that allows them. She has a place to stay with friends out of state but could only bring the dog and she wouldn't have a job or friends aside from one anymore.

I have done all of this to her. I'm a piece of shit and dying feels like the only way to escape. I told her I was feeling this way and she wants me to get help. I'm so done with therapy and trying to fix things. I get better for a couple weeks then I'm back to miserable old me again.

I want my old life back or nothing at all. Since I can't go back in time, I am ready for my exit. I will be leaving behind a wife that deserves far better than me, a dog and a cat that I love more than anything, and my mother. It hurts so much knowing the damage I might do to everybody, but I can't make the pain go away. I fuck everything up. I feel like this is the one thing I have control over to show my wife I do care for her even though I don't ever know how to show it - by setting her free.
 
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spectraltease

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I think a relationship problem is always due to 2 people. You think you've changed, but she did too. I mean, that's 12 years after all. You guys have lived a bit apart, you should spend more time together. As if you got to know each other anew, it's just the question if you're both interested in it.
Quick q: Do you have suicidal tendencies? Or just venting?
 
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hatewhativebecome

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Sep 30, 2022
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I think a relationship problem is always due to 2 people. You think you've changed, but she did too. I mean, that's 12 years after all. You guys have lived a bit apart, you should spend more time together. As if you got to know each other anew, it's just the question if you're both interested in it.
Quick q: Do you have suicidal tendencies? Or just venting?
I just finished the whole post. Read on if you'd like. But yes, I have been feeling suicidal for about a week. More so than ever before.
 
Hollowillow

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Well... I wish I could disagree... But yeah... You did terrible things, I'd key eyeballs if someone cheated on me.

Just don't do it anymore. It's really that simple.

Tell your wife that you are ashamed, of how you treated her. That you can barely look at her in the eyes, but wish to snuggle her. That you feel too lame to satisfy her sexually, with masturbation you don't have to worry about letting her down... But you let her down more by not even trying than failing...

I think you got burned out by working under an asshole & the petty theft was done out of passive agressive spite to get back some dignity. Lame. But we survive the best we can. Just work with people who won't shatter your self esteem, if such people exist.

Tell your wife that you both changed but you'd like to go on dates, get to know each other, flirt from zero, and see if it can work out.

You can make your own room somewhere else & date separately. Until she's ready to move in with him or him with her... Or stay in separate rooms as business partners & friends, like probably 99% of married couples...

You can become different. You can ask forgiveness & another chance.

Nutrition helped me heal physically from traumas & burn outs... But self esteem requires trust in the people who belueve in me... And seeing my accomplishments. By that I don't mean becoming a CEO working 80h a week. Not doing harm is an accomplishment.

Just sit & snuggle her. That's a huge start. Open up and tell her you disgust yourself, maybe you can find ways together.

It's not about being worthy it's about welcoming opportunities.

Serial killers baby haters have fan clubs. It's ok for you to have a wife. Just be good to her. Talk to her about your self esteem issues & worries. Bond. Connect. She knows you're a piece of cheating shit. You don't have to worry about her finding out your flaws. You can only improve at this point. So open up freely.

Just don't rape kids. You're not that bad. Just stop the stuff that you're ashamed of and you'll be a new you. Shame is really draining on the energy. It:s to motivate us to stop & do different. Just don't cheat anymore & snuggle her with a movie or something. She just want attention. You'd complain the whole time that you re a piece of shit unworthy worm and I bet she'd be overjoyed that you opened up your heart to her.

I actually prefer to bond over vulnerability, flaws & traumas... Arrogant narcissists are assholes. So don't worry about being flawed. You could rob a bank and she wouldn't mind if you gave her a hug after.

She just wants your attention. Not a perfect superman... Just someone kind who loves her. You can become that man. I'd gladly date a serial killer if he was kind to me. In fact it'd be fun.

So forget petty crimes... Just stop fucking around and date her
And if you're gay... It's okay!
 
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hatewhativebecome

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Well... I wish I could disagree... But yeah... You did terrible things, I'd key eyeballs if someone cheated on me.

Just don't do it anymore. It's really that simple.

Tell your wife that you are ashamed, of how you treated her. That you can barely look at her in the eyes, but wish to snuggle her. That you feel too lame to satisfy her sexually, with masturbation you don't have to worry about letting her down... But you let her down more by not even trying than failing...

I think you got burned out by working under an asshole & the petty theft was done out of passive agressive spite to get back some dignity. Lame. But we survive the best we can. Just work with people who won't shatter your self esteem, if such people exist.

Tell your wife that you both changed but you'd like to go on dates, get to know each other, flirt from zero, and see if it can work out.

You can make your own room somewhere else & date separately. Until she's ready to move in with him or him with her... Or stay in separate rooms as business partners & friends, like probably 99% of married couples...

You can become different. You can ask forgiveness & another chance.

Nutrition helped me heal physically from traumas & burn outs... But self esteem requires trust in the people who belueve in me... And seeing my accomplishments. By that I don't mean becoming a CEO working 80h a week. Not doing harm is an accomplishment.

Just sit & snuggle her. That's a huge start. Open up and tell her you disgust yourself, maybe you can find ways together.

It's not about being worthy it's about welcoming opportunities.

Serial killers baby haters have fan clubs. It's ok for you to have a wife. Just be good to her. Talk to her about your self esteem issues & worries. Bond. Connect. She knows you're a piece of cheating shit. You don't have to worry about her finding out your flaws. You can only improve at this point. So open up freely.

Just don't rape kids. You're not that bad. Just stop the stuff that you're ashamed of and you'll be a new you. Shame is really draining on the energy. It:s to motivate us to stop & do different. Just don't cheat anymore & snuggle her with a movie or something. She just want attention. You'd complain the whole time that you re a piece of shit unworthy worm and I bet she'd be overjoyed that you opened up your heart to her.

I actually prefer to bond over vulnerability, flaws & traumas... Arrogant narcissists are assholes. So don't worry about being flawed. You could rob a bank and she wouldn't mind if you gave her a hug after.

She just wants your attention. Not a perfect superman... Just someone kind who loves her. You can become that man. I'd gladly date a serial killer if he was kind to me. In fact it'd be fun.

So forget petty crimes... Just stop fucking around and date her
And if you're gay... It's okay!
Thank you for being straightforward in your response. I'm not just venting because of my marriage though. Depression sucks. I've been dealing with it for years. Nothing seems to help for more than a few weeks. I've tried lots of different stuff to cope. Fitness, diet, therapy, medication...I'm tired of feeling like this.
 
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Depression is crap for relationships and for sex
Have you tried shroom?and for the relationship mdma?
Have you tried shroom?and for the relationship mdma?
 
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hatewhativebecome

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Depression is crap for relationships and for sex
Have you tried shroom?and for the relationship mdma?
Have you tried shroom?and for the relationship mdma?
No, I haven't tried either. I was thinking of trying shrooms. I'm not sure how to get them though.
 
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Ive personally not successfully used dark net but that is a good way
 
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No, I haven't tried either. I was thinking of trying shrooms. I'm not sure how to get them though.
Be warned that shrooms or other hallucinogens will enhance any negative feelings you have according to testimonies online.

I was told hallucinogenic truffels work too and they're easy to buy online.
Ive personally not successfully used dark net but that is a good way
So you were succesfully scammed?
 
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Thank you for being straightforward in your response. I'm not just venting because of my marriage though. Depression sucks. I've been dealing with it for years. Nothing seems to help for more than a few weeks. I've tried lots of different stuff to cope. Fitness, diet, therapy, medication...I'm tired of feeling like this.
Thank you. In a weird way it felt more sincere to agree than give you insincere positive platitudes...

Depression can be a symptom of several nutritional deficiencies. If you did the usual diet by restricting calories, instead of feeding yourself a LOT of nutrients... You made yourself starve even more... Try only veggies & meat. No grains. Add 2 x 2g of vitamin c minimum... B complex, b12, vitamin d, magnesium.

Exercise burned you out more. It's a scam to call the poisonned slaves lazy.

Medication are deshumanizing. Your brain isn't defective. Are hungry crying babies depressed & insane? Psychopaths think so because they give antipsychotics to babies now. Sick fucks. Feed the fucking baby in you. Rest. Tell mean people to fuck off. Ditch coffee to force your body faster. Embrace zen.

It should improve life quality.

Unfortunately society is depressing garbage & the only cure for that are nukes... So...

I understand the urge to nope out.

But if you want to apologize to your wife... Words & a hug are more effective than finding a corpse... Some problems have simple answers... Some problems simply need a baby step in a new direction... It will snow ball further by itself.

Your depression might be caused by the trauma of psychological violence by your boss. And shame eating your sub conscious.

Rest & vowing to act better in the future can help.

I hope you'll find inner peace before you die. But I guess you can find peace in death. But I'd be sad if you went with self hatred.

Ask your wife to kick you in the nuts as a punishment so you can feel better? If she forgave you with kindness, maybe it deepened your shame, feeling the urge to atone in some way.

Buy her flowers with a note telling her "sorry I was a jerk, please kick my balls"

Maybe it will end up in kinky sex. Who knows
No, I haven't tried either. I was thinking of trying shrooms. I'm not sure how to get them though.
Well... Becoming a junky is a good way to get more problems. It's like becoming an alcoholic and expect to be a gentleman while you're out of your mind drunk...

Well... Good luck with that. Unless your wife is into drugs... But she sounds like a lady.

I actually use vitamins to get high. C & magnesium to relax, magnesium gave me euphoria sometimes. B for energy.

Drugs can cause brain damage... Which explains psychosis.

Well... Enjoy... Might as well pick up gambling, porn addiction, alcoholism... That's the direction you're going... Just to be sure you know. Are you sure you're ashamed? I think being drunk or high will weaken your judgement & will power... Making you easier to rape. It's the reason why I don't... You might want to stay alone when you get high. Enjoy?
 
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this isn't what I wanted or planned to happen.

Shortly after this happens my wife and I start marriage counseling and I admit to her what happened. She knew something was wrong for a while. She tells me I was raped. I told her I think that is too strong of a word to describe what happened. Many months later I worked with a psychologist who worded it perfectly. I was "coaxed into a sexual relationship" with this man.
im sorry you went through this but i also want to say thank you. when you started talking about it, especially the
He tells me to tell him if I am uncomfortable. Me being the awkward person I am goes along with it because I didn't want to confront.
where its you know you can say it but you still dont but at the same time you dont want to,
i relate. it hurts and feels isolating. it still feels the same because you didnt want it, but its so much easier to take the blame, theres nothing blatant to point the finger at because 'you' didnt say no..
 
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Thank you. In a weird way it felt more sincere to agree than give you insincere positive platitudes...

Depression can be a symptom of several nutritional deficiencies. If you did the usual diet by restricting calories, instead of feeding yourself a LOT of nutrients... You made yourself starve even more... Try only veggies & meat. No grains. Add 2 x 2g of vitamin c minimum... B complex, b12, vitamin d, magnesium.

Exercise burned you out more. It's a scam to call the poisonned slaves lazy.

Medication are deshumanizing. Your brain isn't defective. Are hungry crying babies depressed & insane? Psychopaths think so because they give antipsychotics to babies now. Sick fucks. Feed the fucking baby in you. Rest. Tell mean people to fuck off. Ditch coffee to force your body faster. Embrace zen.

It should improve life quality.

Unfortunately society is depressing garbage & the only cure for that are nukes... So...

I understand the urge to nope out.

But if you want to apologize to your wife... Words & a hug are more effective than finding a corpse... Some problems have simple answers... Some problems simply need a baby step in a new direction... It will snow ball further by itself.

Your depression might be caused by the trauma of psychological violence by your boss. And shame eating your sub conscious.

Rest & vowing to act better in the future can help.

I hope you'll find inner peace before you die. But I guess you can find peace in death. But I'd be sad if you went with self hatred.

Ask your wife to kick you in the nuts as a punishment so you can feel better? If she forgave you with kindness, maybe it deepened your shame, feeling the urge to atone in some way.

Buy her flowers with a note telling her "sorry I was a jerk, please kick my balls"

Maybe it will end up in kinky sex. Who knows

Well... Becoming a junky is a good way to get more problems. It's like becoming an alcoholic and expect to be a gentleman while you're out of your mind drunk...

Well... Good luck with that. Unless your wife is into drugs... But she sounds like a lady.

I actually use vitamins to get high. C & magnesium to relax, magnesium gave me euphoria sometimes. B for energy.

Drugs can cause brain damage... Which explains psychosis.

Well... Enjoy... Might as well pick up gambling, porn addiction, alcoholism... That's the direction you're going... Just to be sure you know. Are you sure you're ashamed? I think being drunk or high will weaken your judgement & will power... Making you easier to rape. It's the reason why I don't... You might want to stay alone when you get high. Enjoy?
Mushrooms (psilocybin) have been being studied as treatment for treatment resistant depression. That is the only reason I'm interested. And actually the wife is too. She actually wants to do other drugs like MDMA with me but I am not interested.
 
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hatewhativebecome

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im sorry you went through this but i also want to say thank you. when you started talking about it, especially the

where its you know you can say it but you still dont but at the same time you dont want to,
i relate. it hurts and feels isolating. it still feels the same because you didnt want it, but its so much easier to take the blame, theres nothing blatant to point the finger at because 'you' didnt say no..
It was a very strange time for me. It caused a lot of damage in my home life. I thought this guy was my friend but he was just trying to get an easy hookup. We talked for about another month before I quit that job. He was dead set on trying to convince me I am gay and that's why my marriage is what it is. Once I stopped talking to him I realized he was wrong about everything. Also he never tried to get back in touch with me so it's clear he really didn't care.
 
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It was a very strange time for me. It caused a lot of damage in my home life. I thought this guy was my friend but he was just trying to get an easy hookup. We talked for about another month before I quit that job. He was dead set on trying to convince me I am gay and that's why my marriage is what it is. Once I stopped talking to him I realized he was wrong about everything. Also he never tried to get back in touch with me so it's clear he really didn't care.
Did you get abused by a coworker... Or the mean boss? If the boss abused you that far you must have massive trauma
 
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hatewhativebecome

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Did you get abused by a coworker... Or the mean boss? If the boss abused you that far you must have massive trauma
You might have misinterpreted my OP. The mean boss was my father in law. My wife's father. The one I stole from. We haven't spoken in over 5 years.

The sexual incident was with a coworker at a different job.
 
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Hollowillow

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You might have misinterpreted my OP. The mean boss was my father in law. My wife's father. The one I stole from. We haven't spoken in over 5 years.

The sexual incident was with a coworker at a different job.
Ah thank you! At least your wife's father wasn't a gay rapist... But if he was mean... She had to endure that jerk for decades, as a helpless child. I think your jerk fuckery seems like an upgrade to her compared to her controlling cruel dad...

Give her a hug, she'll melt. He probably never did.
 
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I mean if you think about the things you feel bad for with your wife and you end up dead I don't think she's going to feel better. It's just more pain in her life. I think it's better to leave this woman if it's not working out and decide if you can start over or CTB then when you're not so involved with her so she doesn't have to deal with that on top of everything else.
 

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