New exit plan for if/when the time calls -CO2 or Nitrogen

[infinitelove]

Hey everyone, I haven't been on this site in a few years. Used be pretty active here. I'm a big believer in preparing an exit kit as life is unpredictable and shit for the most part.

I purchased sodium nitrite 3-4 years ago, a few batches. One of them have never been opened however I heard they lose potency with time, esp after 3 years. I could try to buy a new batch but sourcing them has become much harder. I am in Australia.

I remember alibaba sold SN only 2-3 years ago and when i went back to check lo and behold, they had discontinued it as they probably were forced to unfortunately. Back then I knew it was a matter of time even with alibaba.

I'd like to explore and secure a different method like co1 or nitrogen gas. I live in Australia and wondering where I can source it from? Also, if you guys could link any helpful links for these methods as I mostly just learned about SN. Enclosing my breathing space with gas and peacefully fading sounds best. Otherwise if there are off market sellers who are still selling SN I would be grateful if you could dm me the details. Thank you kindly! Love yall.

 

[Forveleth]

Welcome back (unfortunately). There is quite a bit of information on inert gas around. Here is a link to the megathread to get you started.

Exit bag and inert gas megathread

Exit Bag and Inert Gas Basics —A very, very long post, I know, but I feel like I've fielded a lot of questions about this, so I figured I'd spell out everything I know. Others on the forum should please add to this thread whatever reliable technical information they feel is appropriate for...

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[NegevChina]

You can get information on CO on this megathread though I personally don't like this method:

Carbon monoxide megathread

Hi, this will be the megathread for the carbon monoxide method. I have some questions about the charcoal method, is it a simple method to do? Like buying charcoal and setting it or there is some steps and setup to follow The ppeh gives low rating for preparation but good rating for...

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[infinitelove]

Welcome back (unfortunately). There is quite a bit of information on inert gas around. Here is a link to the megathread to get you started.

Exit bag and inert gas megathread

Exit Bag and Inert Gas Basics —A very, very long post, I know, but I feel like I've fielded a lot of questions about this, so I figured I'd spell out everything I know. Others on the forum should please add to this thread whatever reliable technical information they feel is appropriate for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Ah thank you!

You can get information on CO on this megathread though I personally don't like this method:

Carbon monoxide megathread

Hi, this will be the megathread for the carbon monoxide method. I have some questions about the charcoal method, is it a simple method to do? Like buying charcoal and setting it or there is some steps and setup to follow The ppeh gives low rating for preparation but good rating for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Fair enough! Thanks!

 

[regular john]

Welcome back (unfortunately). There is quite a bit of information on inert gas around. Here is a link to the megathread to get you started.

Exit bag and inert gas megathread

Exit Bag and Inert Gas Basics —A very, very long post, I know, but I feel like I've fielded a lot of questions about this, so I figured I'd spell out everything I know. Others on the forum should please add to this thread whatever reliable technical information they feel is appropriate for...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I read megathread about intert gas and the author recommended that you need 600 litres of gas which means you need pretty big cillinder. I saw cilinders that mr nitschke was selling to people and they looked pretty small . Why nitchke used pretty small canisters with probably pretty small amount of gas inside ?

 

[regular john]

It's stored in its liquid form and expands in volume as a gas (molecules are much further apart and move faster). You can get almost 600 liters of gas from a pretty small cylinder, maybe ~40 cm (~15 inches) in height based on the ones I just searched.

can you send links to cylinders you searched ?

 

[AnotherSadDay]

I read megathread about intert gas and the author recommended that you need 600 litres of gas which means you need pretty big cillinder. I saw cilinders that mr nitschke was selling to people and they looked pretty small . Why nitchke used pretty small canisters with probably pretty small amount of gas inside ?

600L is not that big when its pressurized. I think a tank of 40cf can have that.
The ppeh says that you can use a tank with 420L with a 15L/m gives you 30 min of gas, but in the threads they recommend 600L so in case you have any leak, your gas supply doesnt finish before ensuring CTB (40 min of gas)

 

[purelydaft]

can you send links to cylinders you searched ?

I actually looked at wrong ones, but you can image search for 20 cubic feet cylinders which hold about 566 litres of gas (28.3 per cubic foot). Or 40, as the other commenter said.

 

[regular john]

looks like we need E size cylinder. This is 24 cubic feet and 679 liters. Is it possible to order such nitrogen cylinder from manufacturer ?

 

[devils~advocate]

I'd recommend getting the largest cylinder you can physically handle.....
I dont know the size standards in your country...but the ones that stand about 1m tall should be more than enough.
Welding, beer making supplies, etc
Cylinders that size should allow at least 30 minutes of flow. Which is way more than enough time.
You only need about 6-7 breaths to fall unconscious (w N2).
From there its just a few minutes until brain dead.
(Sorry just being realistic, I dont mean to be graphic)

 

[regular john]

if for some reason you fail in gas method you will be vegetable and alive ?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

CO is my choice.

 

[regular john]

how can you provoke appearance of carbon monoxide on your own ? do you have to buy device that measures carbon monoxide level in the air so that you know how much carbon monoxide is in the place where you are ?